GTS 320Mb Vs GTS 640Mb Vs 2900XT

Cyber-Mav · 26 Aug 2007 at 20:14

thats one thing im sure about, crysis will run great straight out the box on the g80, but for people like me on ati cards, we are gonna have to wait for updated drivers to sort things out.

starmanwarz · 26 Aug 2007 at 20:22

truebluecfc said:
It's not cheaper if your buying of Overclockers ...

Leadtek GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail
£189.99
£223.24 inc VAT

That's the cheapest you can get out of either card as far as i can see.

Im not buying from OCUK,because I am not English.And here the 2900XT costs 345 Euros(~225GBP)and the 8800 640 costs 370 Euros(~245GBP).

starmanwarz · 26 Aug 2007 at 20:31

I hear a lot of 2900XT owners complaining about power,temps and noise.Can someone please tell me what temps should I expect for the 640mb and the 2900XT(with stock coolers)?Would be an interesting comparison.I would also like to know what power each card needs,on idle and load.

willhub · 26 Aug 2007 at 20:38

starmanwarz said:
I hear a lot of 2900XT owners complaining about power,temps and noise.Can someone please tell me what temps should I expect for the 640mb and the 2900XT(with stock coolers)?Would be an interesting comparison.I would also like to know what power each card needs,on idle and load.

I've had an 8800GTS, 2 infact, and now a HD2900XT.

The 8800GTS (my first one), at 620/980 overclock had an idle temp of about 60 degrees and a load of 84, now my second 8800 from EVGA (EVGA ACS3 KO 8800GTS 640), that was overclocked to 650/2.2, idle temps were around 55, load around 77.

The 2900XT idles around 55 at stock clocks and is in the 70's at load, but thats when the fan gets loud, I limit it to 31, in game it gets to around 80-85 degrees depending on what game it is, and that was at overclock settings too at load.

Now, 50W more power consumption over an 8800GTS the 2900XT is, nothing to worry about there, it is a noisy fan, and anyone who's is silent all the time must have very high temps, going up to 85+ degrees load since the fan is only silent at 25%, and then it is silent, but temps can get up to 100 degrees.

It does depend on the case cooling, I've got the side of the case off, and lots of fans.

Cyber-Mav · 26 Aug 2007 at 20:53

willhub said:
I've got the side of the case off, and lots of fans.

not a practical option for some.

willhub · 26 Aug 2007 at 20:57

Cyber-Mav said:
not a practical option for some.

So the case side open increases temps? cooled my CPU more.

It's ok for me I think, I took out some shelves at the right side of my desk and put the PC in there, so no side on, better temps, cant lose

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Shocky-FM · 26 Aug 2007 at 21:04

willhub said:
So the case side open increases temps? cooled my CPU more.

It's ok for me I think, I took out some shelves at the right side of my desk and put the PC in there, so no side on, better temps, cant lose .

Increased dust, increased noise, looks amateurish, you lose.

Cyber-Mav · 26 Aug 2007 at 21:06

Shocky-FM said:
Increased dust, increased noise, looks amateurish, you lose.

ouch thats harsh, taking the side panel off is more like a last ditch effort/desperation attempt to keep temps down. i shoudl know i used to do that back in the old days.

Shocky-FM · 26 Aug 2007 at 21:19

Cyber-Mav said:
ouch thats harsh, taking the side panel off is more like a last ditch effort/desperation attempt to keep temps down. i shoudl know i used to do that back in the old days.

Maybe but if I needed to open my case to reduce temps then that project/system would be a failure.

Cyber-Mav · 26 Aug 2007 at 21:22

Shocky-FM said:
Maybe but if I needed to open my case to reduce temps then that project/system would be a failure.

i agree on that, i won;t build a system that has to have the case open to run cool enough to be stable not with kids in the house or pets too.

willhub · 27 Aug 2007 at 00:33

Have you seen my case? It's ****, does not support 120mm fans, and I cant afford a new one.

I dont loose at all, It's not desperation at all, and I havent got increased noise, if anything it's a lot quieter, and when I have the side of the case on, it's louder due to the 2 80mm fans on the side, and also its below me in the desk.

Shocky-FM, I dont lose at all, wtf are you talking about... you're saying my system is a failure just coz I had the side of the case off?? What makes you think that?

helmutcheese · 27 Aug 2007 at 00:43

BTW, just like some of our Generators at work, some run cooler with doors open some need doors closed as of design, they suck air in rear and out front of radiator, they actually suck the doors shut if not locked open with the Stays.

PC cases are kind of the same, you can run it with no sides and fans on parts will cool them parts but actual Mobos parts etc will get hotter, they need a airflow from front to rear (normally), every little chip and mosfet gets airflow ideally, I imagine HDD runs cooler with sides on so air is going in over them at front of case not wasted out side and everywhere.

Again it all depends on your actual set up, I close case as of , airflow/Noise/Dust (use filters) and my set up runs cooler closed and its part of livingroom so has to be aesthetic.

willhub · 27 Aug 2007 at 00:48

helmutcheese said:
BTW, just like some of our Generators at work, some run cooler with doors open some need doors closed as of design, they suck air in rear and out front of radiator, they actually suck the doors shut if not locked open with the Stays.

PC cases are kind of the same, you can run it with no sides and fans on parts will cool them parts but actual Mobos parts etc will get hotter, they need a airflow from front to rear (normally), every little chip and mosfet gets airflow ideally, I image HDD runs cooler with sides on so air is going in over them at front of case not wasted out side and everywhere.

Again it all depends on your actual set up, I close case as of , airflow/Noise/Dust (use filters) and my set up runs cooler closed and its part of livingroom so has to be aesthetic.

I know my PC runs cooler with no side on, if you look in the case gallery you will see how crap my case is.

Dan2kx · 27 Aug 2007 at 00:52

i have 2 2900xt's and i dont experience "too much" extra heat, in games the fan spins up only briefly on load and i dont even notice it in game (to be honest i dont even know if it does or not lol) and i definately can't hear it over my cpu cooler (zalman 9700 (when thats spinning on full)) all in all cracking card(s)

Shocky-FM · 27 Aug 2007 at 00:57

willhub said:
I know my PC runs cooler with no side on, if you look in the case gallery you will see how crap my case is.

Well if you can afford to buy all that hardware in your sig then a new case and some fans should be no problem, it's just my opinion of course but to me having a case open is amateurish and displays a certain level of incompetence. But an open case does make more noise and attract dust, fact.

helmutcheese · 27 Aug 2007 at 01:02

willhub said:
I know my PC runs cooler with no side on, if you look in the case gallery you will see how crap my case is.

When you say PC is cooler, is that like CPU/GPU and Chipset on Mobo that can actually measure temps, what about the complete PCB of every card and every chip/mosfet on them PCB's and HDD's, they are going to be losing a lot of airflow.

BTW, With your spec, I have no clue why you do not take care of it more by putting in a nice case.

truebluecfc · 27 Aug 2007 at 01:03

Shocky-FM said:
Well if you can afford to buy all that hardware in your sig then a new case and some fans should be no problem, it's just my opinion of course but to me having a case open is amateurish and displays a certain level of incompetence. But an open case does make more noise and attract dust, fact.

What you chatting ... its a common suggestion to keep temps down, i use to have to have the side of on my old computer of or it all overheat and restart.

All this amateurish and incompetence stuff your talking about is a load crap tbh ... its just a side of a case ...

Cyber-Mav · 27 Aug 2007 at 01:04

willhub said:
I know my PC runs cooler with no side on, if you look in the case gallery you will see how crap my case is.

post some pics on here mate i need to see this case.

truebluecfc · 27 Aug 2007 at 01:05

Yeh I wanna see it too, considering we've gone slightly of topic

Cyber-Mav · 27 Aug 2007 at 01:10

truebluecfc said:
What you chatting ... its a common suggestion to keep temps down, i use to have to have the side of on my old computer or it all overheat and restart.

All this amateurish and incompetence stuff your talking about is a load crap tbh.

i think he means that if your cooling is not up to scratch then upgrade the cooling rather than take the side panel off to solve the problem.

im not tooo fussed how others do it, but i prefer to have all the panels on and on my old case i drilled holes for 12cm fan on the side panel and the top of the case to get more cooling rather than leave the panels off.
but it was a 7 year old case i had and back in the old days pc heat was not an issues but the case stuck with me for vasious builds till it got to the point of holding me back on cooling.
so my 2 options were either a coolermaster stacker or a antec 900 for cooling power. i went with the antec 900 since its half the price of the stacker, was the best 50 quid i ever spent.

but side panels off are funny though, i love the old skool ghetto cooling mods. but in this day and age people seem to be moving away from them, and beige cases are on the way out for silver and black cases. and everyone is after silence these days.

or its probably me just getting too old now.