The official Philips BDM4065UC thread

ICDP · 11 Mar 2015 at 08:04

caff said:
It seems to me that gamma 2.6 is necessary for rich blacks - I can understand the comments about my 100% brightness/contrast being excessive, but it seems the gamma setting makes the biggest difference with contrast.

Adjusting the brightness & contrast on this screen doesn't seem to have the usual/expected effect.

If you are using these setting for deep blacks or bright whites then fair enough. Just letting you know that ALL off whites/greys and subtle difference in shade etc will be totally eliminated.

It is especially noticeable in elite when little details on station interiors, or subtle nebula effects are eliminated in their entirety. Even every day windows use is affected because scrollbars in some sites are rendered almost invisible.

MrPix · 11 Mar 2015 at 08:40

ICDP said:
If you are using these setting for deep blacks or bright whites then fair enough. Just letting you know that ALL off whites/greys and subtle difference in shade etc will be totally eliminated.

It is especially noticeable in elite when little details on station interiors, or subtle nebula effects are eliminated in their entirety. Even every day windows use is affected because scrollbars in some sites are rendered almost invisible.

Absolutely not the case, you are so wrong, sorry to bring this to you and I'm not arguing, it's just fact and your post is based on what you think I can and cannot see, but you are ignorant of my situation and the steps I have taken to get where I am, so let me help you...

I followed the calibration to the letter within Smart Control. I can see all shades in everything, film, games and especially Elite however subtle.

Have you calibrated your monitor in any way? Smart Control Premium seems to do an excellent job. It's not photo perfect for colours, but absolutely fine for what I use the monitor for and the calibration profile when set correctly brings out the differences in the shades perfectly to the person who set it up and their eye qualities (depending on the state, type and length of their cones and rods in their eyes of course), nothing is lost I assure you with regard to IQ.

I use a Spyder pro for calibration for photo work and have another profile for that and switch between the 2 as needed.

EDIT: Just noticed that while you reference Elite, you are responding to somebody else... but I use 2.6 gamma and I don't lose any shades with 75% bri and 55% con... so my statement sticks regarding my calibration.

ICDP · 11 Mar 2015 at 11:42

MrPix said:
Absolutely not the case, you are so wrong, sorry to bring this to you and I'm not arguing, it's just fact and your post is based on what you think I can and cannot see, but you are ignorant of my situation and the steps I have taken to get where I am, so let me help you...

I followed the calibration to the letter within Smart Control. I can see all shades in everything, film, games and especially Elite however subtle.

Have you calibrated your monitor in any way? Smart Control Premium seems to do an excellent job. It's not photo perfect for colours, but absolutely fine for what I use the monitor for and the calibration profile when set correctly brings out the differences in the shades perfectly to the person who set it up and their eye qualities (depending on the state, type and length of their cones and rods in their eyes of course), nothing is lost I assure you with regard to IQ.

I use a Spyder pro for calibration for photo work and have another profile for that and switch between the 2 as needed.

EDIT: Just noticed that while you reference Elite, you are responding to somebody else... but I use 2.6 gamma and I don't lose any shades with 75% bri and 55% con... so my statement sticks regarding my calibration.

My post was aimed at those who use 100% brightness and 100% contrast.

MrPix · 11 Mar 2015 at 13:04

@IDCP yeah sorry man, hence the edit... but thought the calibration info may be useful for others

SamLombardo · 11 Mar 2015 at 13:24

MrPix said:
@IDCP yeah sorry man, hence the edit... but thought the calibration info may be useful for others

I think it is. I will try it

eyetrip · 12 Mar 2015 at 20:23

MrPix said:
@IDCP yeah sorry man, hence the edit... but thought the calibration info may be useful for others

Well, putting gamma there for me kills blacks.

Utterly destroys them. Dead.

I used a spider 4 too...

Guess I need to share my settings and profile, so people have some balance and choice.

SamLombardo · 12 Mar 2015 at 22:22

Yes please

nalla · 14 Mar 2015 at 19:24

i think it gona be a bargain at around as mentioned £600 or so if only if only.

you can get it for £600 ish, i did.

gareth170 · 16 Mar 2015 at 13:55

can someone try this.

put your mouse point at the very top of screen then move it left to right. do you see a massive lag? it only happens at the very top of screen

edit: i fixed that, the top cm of screen was running at 30hz, so i changed the frequency to 30hz then back to 60hz

sandys · 16 Mar 2015 at 14:24

Just got mine in work, Seems OK so far, unfortunately machines are only DP1.1 but not finding 30hz that bad for CAD stuff at least.

weird_dave · 18 Mar 2015 at 11:50

When I bought mine, I also ordered a cable so I can use my mini displaport outputs
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-089-OK
I didn't notice it says:
Supports up to 2560 x 1600k resolution
I do get occasional problems and initially thought it was the card, now I'm not so sure.
Anyone else had problems with cables?
Looking here:
http://www.displayport.org/cables/how-to-choose-a-displayport-cable-and-not-get-a-bad-one/
it would seem any display port verified cable should be fine at 4K (I am assuming my cable isn't).

UberTiger · 18 Mar 2015 at 12:17

That's interesting, I've been having some occasional issues when trying to wake from sleep.

It's a new build though and I've been working on my laptop mainly recently so I've not had a proper look into it to see if it's the PC, monitor or something else.

I'm pretty sure I'm using the same OcUK cable. It seems fine in normal use though.

Maybe it only says that res as when the listing was created 4K wasn't common place? Then again a quick google shows some other sellers of the same cable list the same res.

gareth170 · 18 Mar 2015 at 12:52

weird_dave said:
When I bought mine, I also ordered a cable so I can use my mini displaport outputs
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-089-OK
I didn't notice it says:
Supports up to 2560 x 1600k resolution
I do get occasional problems and initially thought it was the card, now I'm not so sure.
Anyone else had problems with cables?
Looking here:
http://www.displayport.org/cables/how-to-choose-a-displayport-cable-and-not-get-a-bad-one/
it would seem any display port verified cable should be fine at 4K (I am assuming my cable isn't).

i'm not sure if that's a DP 1.1 or 1.2 but maybe it's 1.1 and if so you will get issues at 4k 60hz. 30hz would be fine for 1.1 cable

Roger Ramjet · 18 Mar 2015 at 13:22

My GTX 980 won't wake the monitor from sleep. Needs a firmware update apparently.

I have a GTX Titan that works fine though.

gareth170 · 18 Mar 2015 at 15:25

i keep seeing some people think this monitor may need a firmware update but how would they make that possible there's no firmware update option in the menu. also it's unlikely it'll be by software because the monitor is only connected via DP or HDMI also the USB ports are only a hub, they didn't send/receive anything to the monitor itself.

Roger Ramjet · 18 Mar 2015 at 16:13

I meant my GTX 980 may need a firmware update.
EVGA did send me a ROM to try but the update tool didn't work so I couldn't test it.

paulo7 · 18 Mar 2015 at 16:58

very tempted to get one

gareth170 · 18 Mar 2015 at 18:00

paulo7 said:
very tempted to get one

they are good, but if your a hard core gamer i'd say it's not the ideal monitor. the dark colours/black bleed slightly / ghost

eyetrip · 18 Mar 2015 at 19:47

weird_dave said:
When I bought mine, I also ordered a cable so I can use my mini displaport outputs
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-089-OK
I didn't notice it says:
Supports up to 2560 x 1600k resolution
I do get occasional problems and initially thought it was the card, now I'm not so sure.
Anyone else had problems with cables?
Looking here:
http://www.displayport.org/cables/how-to-choose-a-displayport-cable-and-not-get-a-bad-one/
it would seem any display port verified cable should be fine at 4K (I am assuming my cable isn't).

I had a rough time last weekend due to cables.

Out of six, only two will work at do 1.2, and of the two left one was a cable I was trying to replace due to intermittent issues.

Everything went totally wonky with my system for a bit after changing, so still on the one with intermittent issues and don't want to go through the hassle I did at the weekend so may just leave it.

Yes, cables can have a massive impact.

caff · 18 Mar 2015 at 22:23

Thanks to all making suggestions to tweak the brightness & contrast - I have settled on Mr Pix's settings, with the exception of tweaking the RGB balance to lower the blue.

Picture Format : widescreen (I use it for a 1080p input too)
Brightness: 75%
Contrast: 55%
Sharpness: 50%
Smart Response: Off
Smart Contrast: Off
Gamma 2.6
Pixel Orbiting: On
Overscan: Off
PIP/PBP Mode: Off

Color: R:100 G:94 B:84

I'm now thinking about replacing the stand. I have it sitting on a desk - I can't wall mount, sadly, but I'd like a stand that is capable of rotating to 90 degrees for portrait mode. Does such a desk stand exist that is capable of turning a 40" monitor to 90"?