The RX Vega 64 Owners Thread

[Abe Paniagua]

Using HWINFO64?

No, it was enhanced sync apparently. Turned it off and right away, no more stuttering.

 

[AmateurExpert]

So these arrived earlier this week (sadly no Haribo, despite all the waiting), but had to wait a bit as I was still upgrading from a Phenom II X3 710 to a Ryzen 7 1700 (testing the difference it made with my existing graphics card):

Spoiler: boxes

In my Vega64 box the card was a bit lonely with just a generic quick installation guide and an address slip for Sapphire Technology for company; but really I don't miss the superfluous CDs, cables of dubious quality, plastic blanking plugs or plastic film.

Aside from upgrading the Phenom II that I've been using for ages, I'm also levelling up from this AIO-cooled HD 6850:

Spoiler: cards

The black reference shroud seems to be metal and not the plastic of the Polaris cards - this card has some heft to it! Finally got my pre-build together last night:


Have tested a few games with both CPU & GPU at stock settings, and fantastic to be able to play Cities: Skylines without stuttering at 1080p - roughly twice the FPS and all fluidly smooth with all settings turned up.

The card has been stable so far - have run 3dmark a few times, and have had no problems so far with overclocking it on the 600W PSU. Will continue to tweak and test things with their stock air coolers for a bit before setting up the water cooling.

 

[Kaapstad]

So these arrived earlier this week (sadly no Haribo, despite all the waiting), but had to wait a bit as I was still upgrading from a Phenom II X3 710 to a Ryzen 7 1700 (testing the difference it made with my existing graphics card):

Spoiler: boxes

In my Vega64 box the card was a bit lonely with just a generic quick installation guide and an address slip for Sapphire Technology for company; but really I don't miss the superfluous CDs, cables of dubious quality, plastic blanking plugs or plastic film.

Aside from upgrading the Phenom II that I've been using for ages, I'm also levelling up from this AIO-cooled HD 6850:

Spoiler: cards

The black reference shroud seems to be metal and not the plastic of the Polaris cards - this card has some heft to it! Finally got my pre-build together last night:


Have tested a few games with both CPU & GPU at stock settings, and fantastic to be able to play Cities: Skylines without stuttering at 1080p - roughly twice the FPS and all fluidly smooth with all settings turned up.

The card has been stable so far - have run 3dmark a few times, and have had no problems so far with overclocking it on the 600W PSU. Will continue to tweak and test things with their stock air coolers for a bit before setting up the water cooling.

Welcome and on TROH.


The Roll of Honour.

Date 02/09/2017, Make Reference Air, AmateurExpert, Link
Date 31/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Boomstick777, Link
Date 31/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Paul Campbell, Link
Date 31/08/2017, Make Reference Air, shankly1985, Link
Date 30/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, Chewie, Link
Date 30/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Shiari, Link
Date 30/08/2017, Make Reference Air, chaosophy, Link
Date 29/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, BadIronTree, Link
Date 28/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Neutral, Link
Date 26/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, iihavetoes, Link
Date 25/08/2017, Make Reference Air, disi, Link
Date 25/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, djbully, Link
Date 24/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Bonjour, Link
Date 24/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Kmodo, Link
Date 23/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, Dave2150, Link
Date 23/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Roughneck, Link
Date 21/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, diziet, Link
Date 19/08/2017, Make Reference Air, CapitalOne, Link
Date 18/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, NathG79, Link
Date 18/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Chrisc, Link
Date 17/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, DazQ87, Link
Date 17/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Smudge, Link
Date 17/08/2017, Make Reference Air, ChosenName, Link
Date 17/08/2017, Make Reference Air, mattyc123, Link
Date 16/08/2017, Make Reference Air, WhistleBlower07, Link
Date 16/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, nashathedog, Link
Date 16/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, heartburnron, Link
Date 16/08/2017, Make Reference Air, vanpeebles, Link
Date 15/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Morve, Link
Date 15/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Howling, Link
Date 15/08/2017, Make Reference Air, Apache14, Link
Date 15/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, Dianbobo, Link
Date 15/08/2017, Make Reference Air, ubersonic, Link
Date 15/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, AMDMatt, Link
Date 15/08/2017, Make Reference Air, TonyTurbo78, Link
Date 15/08/2017, Make Reference AIO, MDPlatts, Link


To get on the Roll of Honour all you have to do is post a pic with your user name on it of your Vega 64.
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[heartburnron]

Some BF1 performance testing at max settings 3440x1440.

What are your clock settings at on this video Matt? This looks more like what I see playing games, boosting up to around 1725. Still haven't managed to get the clock any higher than that regardless of what game or benchmark I run on 17.8.2. Any attempts of actually setting the clock higher than 1750 has resulted in a crash...

 

[V F]

@AmateurExpert, quite liking the AMD gold edition.

 

[Nemesis.ie]

@Kaapstad Did you forget to add me?

 

[LtMatt]

What are your clock settings at on this video Matt? This looks more like what I see playing games, boosting up to around 1725. Still haven't managed to get the clock any higher than that regardless of what game or benchmark I run on 17.8.2. Any attempts of actually setting the clock higher than 1750 has resulted in a crash...

These are my Wattman settings. It varies from game to game what clock speeds i get, but it does hit 1802Mhz sometimes, but mostly it's mid-low 1700's.

Spoiler

 

[TonyTurbo78]

Interesting to see Matt on the 17.8.2 driver now and the card not hitting the 1800mhz core speed with ease like it was previously. That's what I thought would happen eventually, the earlier drivers just didn't seem to be accurately reporting the clock speeds. I just don't think these cards will go much higher than 1800mhz IMO, that's just way to much of an overclock. I think now things are settling, we'll start to see that a very good overclock will be between 1775mhz and 1825mhz. I've got mine set at 1750mhz but it rarely even hits 1730mhz when gaming. Maybe once drivers mature, we'll see the maximum clock speeds being hit more often.

 

[LtMatt]

Interesting to see Matt on the 17.8.2 driver now and the card not hitting the 1800mhz core speed with ease like it was previously. That's what I thought would happen eventually, the earlier drivers just didn't seem to be accurately reporting the clock speeds. I just don't think these cards will go much higher than 1800mhz IMO, that's just way to much of an overclock. I think now things are settling, we'll start to see that a very good overclock will be between 1775mhz and 1825mhz. I've got mine set at 1750mhz but it rarely even hits 1730mhz when gaming. Maybe once drivers mature, we'll see the maximum clock speeds being hit more often.

See my previous post on this Tony.

Clock fluctutation is a feature of ACG = Advanced Clock Generator, which is enabled for DPM states 5/6/7. It will naturally fluctuate when there are current spikes. When current spikes occur voltage droops, to avoid instability during the droop, frequency must be decreased to match. This is why you see the fluctuation in the frequency.

To maximise highest possible performance, set +50% power limit + increase state 7 frequency and voltage if required. I use state 6 as stock max boost frequency and undervolt by -0.075mv and state 7 as my max stable core overclock + maximum voltage. This works well for me Vega and allows a nice performace increase over stock boost clock/voltage.

I recommend enabling HBCC too globally, even with just 16GB of system memory.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

Ahh nice. Thanks Matt.

I've got state 6 and state 7 at 1750mhz and 1200mv. What's the benefit of settings state 6 to boost clock frequency exactly?

 

[kundi]

Ahh nice. Thanks Matt.

I've got state 6 and state 7 at 1750mhz and 1200mv. What's the benefit of settings state 6 to boost clock frequency exactly?

He did it to stabilize closer to 1752 instead of that being the peak.

 

[lordhawkwind]

OK how do I get the OSD working in Hwinfo64? I've downloaded RTSS so how do I now get the two to work together? Do I also need MSI Afterburner? Cheers

 

[kundi]

OK how do I get the OSD working in Hwinfo64? I've downloaded RTSS so how do I now get the two to work together? Do I also need MSI Afterburner? Cheers

You don't need afterburner. With RTSS installed an running you can right click on items you want to monitor in HWinfo and select osd RTSS settings and enable it. In that same menu you can specify where you want it to be column and row.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

He did it to stabilize closer to 1752 instead of that being the peak.

I achieve that by just running state 6 and state 7 the same.....at 1750mhz. My clock speed in games fluctuates between 1700mhz and 1730mhz. If Matt isn't getting to 1800mhz now, and like he says normally low to mid 1700's, then he could just set 1750mhz for state 6 and 7. That was kinda my point.

 

[kundi]

I achieve that by just running state 6 and state 7 the same.....at 1750mhz. My clock speed in games fluctuates between 1700mhz and 1730mhz. If Matt isn't getting to 1800mhz now, and like he says normally low to mid 1700's, then he could just set 1750mhz for state 6 and 7. That was kinda my point.

Not exactly, 17.8.2 behaves a bit differently than previous bios. If you set p7 to 1752 you'll never hit it. Go look through his videos, he often hits 1800+, it just depends on several factors.

 

[schneeb]

I achieve that by just running state 6 and state 7 the same.....at 1750mhz. My clock speed in games fluctuates between 1700mhz and 1730mhz. If Matt isn't getting to 1800mhz now, and like he says normally low to mid 1700's, then he could just set 1750mhz for state 6 and 7. That was kinda my point.

don't forget the AIO has a higher power limit but 1250mV is probably actually keeping his clocks lower than going for a consistent 1750ish (actual clock)

 

[lordhawkwind]

You don't need afterburner. With RTSS installed an running you can right click on items you want to monitor in HWinfo and select osd RTSS settings and enable it. In that same menu you can specify where you want it to be column and row.

Cheers managed to sort it 2 minutes after I posted LOL but thanks for the reply.

 

[heartburnron]

I managed to get a stable 1777/1080 but still can't get the core clock to boost beyond 1724. I've tried setting state 6 to 1750, extra voltage, less voltage, full power and all variations there of but it's usually just below 1700 playing games, occasionally boosting to 1711 and the odd time up to 1724 running Time Spy.

 

[Tinek]

I suppose it's my turn now as well.

 

[TonyTurbo78]

Not exactly, 17.8.2 behaves a bit differently than previous bios. If you set p7 to 1752 you'll never hit it. Go look through his videos, he often hits 1800+, it just depends on several factors.

I think Matt and the others were only hitting 1800mhz+ on the older 17.8.1 driver which I believe doesn't report the clocks correctly. I've not seen him hit 1800mhz on 17.8.2 because he's not done many videos on the 17.8.2 driver. Any chance you can post a vid up showing that Matt?