Solidly put, my friend. Really does explain it all. Yeah, I bought the 5820K as an upgrade from the famed i7 920 (D0). What a chip that was! But clearly there's still more years in this CPU I have now, so I will stick with it for a while longer.
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Solidly put, my friend. Really does explain it all. Yeah, I bought the 5820K as an upgrade from the famed i7 920 (D0). What a chip that was! But clearly there's still more years in this CPU I have now, so I will stick with it for a while longer.
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still using mine at 4.5ghz.
Only real appeal of another cpu right now is the power consumption. I dont think x99 is particularly power friendly.
Only real appeal of another cpu right now is the power consumption. I dont think x99 is particularly power friendly.
add thermals to that list too
So what sort of temps are people getting with these 5820K CPUs? Especially those who have overclocked to 4.5GHz? I stated earlier I gave mine a clean and I am using Noctua NF-H1 thermal paste with a Corsair Hydro 100i 240 AIO cooler. And I am seeing idle temps of around 40-50c. Just curious to see what others have.
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Agree that the 5820K and chips of that gen don't really need a direct upgrade unless you have an immediate use for the upgarde chosen. Have a 4930k, which is the rough analagous chip from the gen before (6 core, but I think more PCIe lanes). And not really seeing the need to upgrade just yet (and I was looking to upgrade three years ago).
Other than the PSU finally coughing a bit, which forced me to go from 4.3Ghz to 4.2Ghz and reduced USB device count from power delivery issues (and so in need to get a replacement, but not in this pricey times, also after the Seasonic 700W fanless, and not generally available yet), I only need to up the GPU to keep it relavent in modern gaming (currently rocking an RX580).
As for temps, my 4930k is basically room temp at idle, but at 4.2Ghz. Currently being cooled by a Noctua U12A, fans at 35% (basically around 600rpm), ramping up to around 50% (around 850rpm) when running all cores. Room temp is usually around 24C, but hotter weather pushes that up lately (so 26+ potentially).
Back when I was overclocking it to 4.5Ghz (when the PSU was more stable and new), I was using an original H100i also, and that sat in the 30C to 36C region at idle.
Although I'll stress, that I've been using offset voltage for a while and so idle temps are a bit lower than those who aren't using offsets or variable/dynamic voltages for their CPU.
Other than the PSU finally coughing a bit, which forced me to go from 4.3Ghz to 4.2Ghz and reduced USB device count from power delivery issues (and so in need to get a replacement, but not in this pricey times, also after the Seasonic 700W fanless, and not generally available yet), I only need to up the GPU to keep it relavent in modern gaming (currently rocking an RX580).
As for temps, my 4930k is basically room temp at idle, but at 4.2Ghz. Currently being cooled by a Noctua U12A, fans at 35% (basically around 600rpm), ramping up to around 50% (around 850rpm) when running all cores. Room temp is usually around 24C, but hotter weather pushes that up lately (so 26+ potentially).
Back when I was overclocking it to 4.5Ghz (when the PSU was more stable and new), I was using an original H100i also, and that sat in the 30C to 36C region at idle.
Although I'll stress, that I've been using offset voltage for a while and so idle temps are a bit lower than those who aren't using offsets or variable/dynamic voltages for their CPU.
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Using a 5820K here its a cracking bit of kit at 4.2 or 4.4GHz ,still packs a punch why change.
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5820k @ 4.5GHz here and no complaints. My 2070 super makes it run a bit hotter now since it's now no longer being held back by the GTX970 I had before.
Just got my Mrs a Ryzen 5 3600 and, to be honest, it blows my CPU out of the water even at stock (extra 1000+ points in Cinebench R20).
Makes me tempted but I only really game these days so I'll stick with what I've got for a while longer.
Just got my Mrs a Ryzen 5 3600 and, to be honest, it blows my CPU out of the water even at stock (extra 1000+ points in Cinebench R20).
Makes me tempted but I only really game these days so I'll stick with what I've got for a while longer.
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I replaced my Xeon E5-1650 V4 based X99 machine (GPU was GTX1070) with an i9-9820X based X299X (GPU is now RTX2070 Super).
Kinda wish I hadn't bothered as I see very little in the way of performance uplift in most titles. Sure in synthetic benchmarks I see a marked improvement, but nobody works with or games with synthetic benchmarks day-in-day-out (unless you are the likes of der8auer).
The only exception is performance in HL:Alyx, which was one of my main drivers for upgrading.
Kinda wish I hadn't bothered as I see very little in the way of performance uplift in most titles. Sure in synthetic benchmarks I see a marked improvement, but nobody works with or games with synthetic benchmarks day-in-day-out (unless you are the likes of der8auer).
The only exception is performance in HL:Alyx, which was one of my main drivers for upgrading.
the 5820k didn’t exist when the 4790k came out so don’t assume that all of us 4790k owners made bad buying decisions.
Also on a 6800K here, running everything smoothly. Also used to have a 480 with it but now it's a Vega 64. I think your idle temps are definitely a bit high but that could be a lot of factors. For me with a Noctua U12 I'm sitting at around 38 C in a low 20s ambient. Yesterday when I was stressing it harder in Division 2 trying to keep that 120 fps lock it was really only getting up to 70 C. And this is OC'ed to 4 Ghz with slightly high voltage for stability.
Imo until your GPU reaches 2080 ti levels of performance a CPU upgrade isn't even worth considering.
Imo until your GPU reaches 2080 ti levels of performance a CPU upgrade isn't even worth considering.
5820k overclocked is basically a 3600. so pointless move. wait until the next amd cpus come. thats the smart move and those are 15 - 20 percent up on current amd cpus. few months wait. with a good cpu.just wait.
for gaming go to the amd next 8 core. 8 cores will be all thats required just for gaming for probably next 5 years. 12 core and more can actually hinder performance in some games. so if its just for games 8 core next amd cpus. nothing this gen.
amd current cpus are the same as a intel non k varient of the 8700 in games. next ones based on projection mean they atleast 9900k kinda speed in games and the extra cores or even faster. for a few months just wait as said.
a overclocked 5820k as said and ive done the benchies is close to a stock 8700k. so basically pointless moving to a 3600. there is no difference in games.
for gaming go to the amd next 8 core. 8 cores will be all thats required just for gaming for probably next 5 years. 12 core and more can actually hinder performance in some games. so if its just for games 8 core next amd cpus. nothing this gen.
amd current cpus are the same as a intel non k varient of the 8700 in games. next ones based on projection mean they atleast 9900k kinda speed in games and the extra cores or even faster. for a few months just wait as said.
a overclocked 5820k as said and ive done the benchies is close to a stock 8700k. so basically pointless moving to a 3600. there is no difference in games.
It’s basically not.
me and humbug did the benchies and different clocks at the start when the 3600s come out. its all over the internet if you look that amd cpus are basically the same in games and we talkng about game benchmarks here as a intel 8700 no k varient.
so a 3600 is the same as a 8700 non k. a 5820k at about 4.5 ghz scores about the same as both of those in games. i know i did the benchmarks. so if you can overclock your 5820k or it is overclocked. its a pointless move unless....
you can sell up for a good price now move to amd platform for not much. then swap cpu with amd new cpus. the thing with that is you upgrading twice. you wouldnt move to a 3600 or 8700 though from a 5820k. its just not worth it performance wise. you want a bigger jump to justify the swap.
ideally the next lot of 8 core amd cpus is really what you should be looking forward to. a cheap 3700x at £200 would be the only now option tbh but why would you do that when the new amd cpus are on target to launch this year and 15 -20 percent quicker than a 3700 or 3800.
Your benchmarks need to be redone.
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Do CPUs get faster, mature with age?
Lol No
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Jigger just waving the usual flag then ?
lol yes
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Moved from a 5820k running at 4.6 to a 3700x and then to a 3900x. ( Having moved to the 3700 I thought why not go to a 3900 for more 'future proofing' - probably should not have bothered as I do not use my computer for much except gaming
, however I now have 12 cores - whoopee!!!).
Definately much smoother with the AMD cpu(s) so have no regrets about moving on but if I were considering moving now would probably recomend waiting till next gen is out or AT LEAST waiting till the xt models are out as they are ,allegedly, a little quicker and such issue might result in a drop in price for the current offerings
Best bang for buck is in my opinion the 3700.
, however I now have 12 cores - whoopee!!!).Definately much smoother with the AMD cpu(s) so have no regrets about moving on but if I were considering moving now would probably recomend waiting till next gen is out or AT LEAST waiting till the xt models are out as they are ,allegedly, a little quicker and such issue might result in a drop in price for the current offerings
Best bang for buck is in my opinion the 3700.