Poll: Qatar Grand Prix 2021, Lusail - Race 20

[Slam62]

Video circulating of Max passing double yellows and still improving time

 

[muon]

Mercedes must love that the fia and Rb are obsessively focussed on their rear wing, I bet whatever they’ve done is somewhere else on the car.

Put some rubbing marks on the wing just to make sure .

 

[CSMonkeh]

Surely he only goes to the back of the grid if the FIA actually found something wrong with the Merc rear wing?

Sorry indeed that is what I meant, but given recent events it almost seemed inevitable

 

[Irish_Tom]

Video circulating of Max passing double yellows and still improving time

His second sector of his second run was slower than his first run though, so even though he improved over the whole lap, I don’t think he will be penalised for it. IIRC the yellows were in S2.

Sorry indeed that is what I meant, but given recent events it almost seemed inevitable

Ah ok, I see what you mean. It would certainly add fire to the “They don’t want Hamilton to win again” argument!

 

[Slam62]

His second sector of his second run was slower than his first run though, so even though he improved over the whole lap, I don’t think he will be penalised for it. IIRC the yellows were in S2.



Ah ok, I see what you mean. It would certainly add fire to the “They don’t want Hamilton to win again” argument!

Of course he won't be penalised for it.

 

[Mr Jack]

Video circulating of Max passing double yellows and still improving time

Looks like he slowed to me

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1462081672527159298

And his final sector was totally uncompetitive too.

 

[Kenai]

His second sector of his second run was slower than his first run though, so even though he improved over the whole lap, I don’t think he will be penalised for it. IIRC the yellows were in S2.

They were just coming out of the final turn.

Double waved yellow flags but not lights.

I'd be surprised to see a penalty.

 

[englishpremier]

Are the q3 top speeds available, would be interesting to see the delta between lewis and max. If it's a big as Brazil lewis could just concede t1 if max does his usual let me through or we crash move and Lewis can then just fly by on the 1k straight a couple laps later

I don't think Merc's top speeds were anything special here. Lewis is 1km/h faster in the trap in sector 1 and doesn't make the top 5 in the other sectors.

 

[muon]

He was accelerating past the double yellow as he passes Gasly down to the lap finish line.

The problem is I'm not sure the marshal was correct to wave those. I don't know what the rules are though, can the marshal overrule the system?

 

[Irish_Tom]

They were just coming out of the final turn.

Double waved yellow flags but not lights.

I'd be surprised to see a penalty.

When Gasley was stopped on the start/finish straight?

The on-screen graphics said the track was green by that point so I didn’t think there were any flags. How confusing.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

I don't think Merc's top speeds were anything special here. Lewis is 1km/h faster in the trap in sector 1 and doesn't make the top 5 in the other sectors.

So somehow they are able to carry more downforce whilst being able to brute force through it on the straights.

 

[Mr Jack]

The problem is I'm not sure the marshal was correct to wave those. I don't know what the rules are though, can the marshal overrule the system?

Doesn't make any difference whether the marshal was correct or not (they were). Physical flags have priority over everything else.

 

[englishpremier]

So somehow they are able to carry more downforce whilst being able to brute force through it on the straights.

Isn't that where the system allowing the car to lower on the straights and stall the airflow comes in.

 

[kitfit1]

Divebomb down the inside of Max at T1, brake so late he's "in front" and then just don't turn in

This is exactly my thinking and i'd be amazed if it wasn't being discussed in Merc debrief as i'm typing.
Toto is still mad about what he considers to be a rule change over forcing a driver off track, that it must be uppermost in his mind to get Bottas to do to Max what Max did to Lewis.
As Max is starting in P2 on the dirty side of the track, it's more than doable for Bottas to be in front and on the inside at T1....................i for one would love to see it happen. Can you imagine how many dummies would be thrown out of Horner's pram should it happen

 

[Kenai]

When Gasley was stopped on the start/finish straight?

The on-screen graphics said the track was green by that point so I didn’t think there were any flags. How confusing.

That's why I don't think he'll face a penalty.

On screen it flicked back and forth. I suspect the flags were a mistake and if they're pressed on the issue the stewards will just say it was all confused and no worries.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Part of me thinks that they’d be waving the yellows if Lewis was pushing for pole and Max was safe.

Apparently they were happy that Gasly was off the racing line

 

[muon]

Part of me thinks that they’d be waving the yellows if Lewis was pushing for pole and Max was safe.

Apparently they were happy that Gasly was off the racing line

Other drivers slowed down for those yellows.

Only Bottas and Verstappen didn't. Although it isn't clear if they were up for Bottas.

edit:

Looks like Bottas had a single yellow or the marshal was just about to start waving double yellows.

https://streamable.com/c07l35

If flags always take precedence, then 3 place drop for Bottas (single yellow) and 5 place drop for Verstappen (double yellows).

 

[mattx2]

Gasly entering turn 1 tomorrow

 

[muon]

Gasley entering turn 1 tomorrow

May still be starting from P2.

 

[Kenai]

Interestingly I was just reading a tweet/comments from the @F1 account with a clip of the Gasly accident from about 10mins ago - most comments asking about yellow flag investigation - refreshed the tweet to see new comments and it was gone