The Matrix 4
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Soldato
Compared to the original this was never going to live up to the hype or steal it's spot unless it did something different which they failed to do, I mean the whole meta 'WB forced us to make it' comments felt like Lana was hitting us over the head with why this was made, still they could've made something good here but they didn't.
Jada Smith walking as a old women was nearly as bad as De Niro beating someone down in The Irishman
Jada Smith walking as a old women was nearly as bad as De Niro beating someone down in The Irishman
Soldato
Watched this recently, and it wasn’t a bad film, but it’s quite forgettable.
Bit weird too, more so than I expected from Lana. Not sure on the fairytale style ending either?
6/10 for me, would watch again for amazing visuals and sonic performance.
Bit weird too, more so than I expected from Lana. Not sure on the fairytale style ending either?
6/10 for me, would watch again for amazing visuals and sonic performance.
Soldato
I scoffed when I heard that part - did make me chuckle, but also it completely disengaged me from the film. It was like being told by a teacher they don’t want to be there but they have to be - all interest disappears.
So what did Lana and Warner Brothers see that they thought this could have been a success? Obviously apart from money. I mean how could they not see or have known it wouldn't have topped the first. How can people be in this industry for decades and not see how you can or cannot top what came before then act surprised it's getting a hammering?
Or is success to these people today as long as it generates income it's a success even though it's getting hammered by the critics?
Or is success to these people today as long as it generates income it's a success even though it's getting hammered by the critics?
Associate
Wow this is so bad. I don’t think I’ve ever hated every single part of a movie as much as this. As far as I’m concerned the whole thing is a middle finger to fans of the first movie.
Then seeing how many people on Reddit liked it (to be fair an equal amount hate it), is depressing as well. I don’t see how anyone who remembers seeing the first film when it came out can like this. It’s so bad, it makes me nostalgic for the third.
Then seeing how many people on Reddit liked it (to be fair an equal amount hate it), is depressing as well. I don’t see how anyone who remembers seeing the first film when it came out can like this. It’s so bad, it makes me nostalgic for the third.
Soldato
I'd suggest that many of the younger folks on "Reddit" giving it positive reviews never got to see the Matrix when it first came out and have only seen it years later where it was "just another cool film" in a sea of post-Matrix films. As such they aren't as attached to the film as those of us who saw first hand just how genuinely game changing it was when it first came out and just how much it changed Action/Sci-Fi films afterwards, I mean even TV adverts had bullet-time effects added afterwards!
I know it sounds like gate keeping - "you didn't see it when it first came out so you don't like it as much as I do" etc - but with a film like this which literally changed cinema, I just don't see those who've only seen films in the post-Matrix age being able to truly understand how much of an effect it had on those of us who lived through that change in cinema.
God I sound pretentious
Caporegime
It is like watching Toy Story when it first came out. You look at it now and it has dated really badly but still watchable but it was such an omg moment in cinema history. T2 was pretty similar in that aspect.
You could also say the same with the move from 2d to 3d gaming. Zelda OOT and Mario 64 are more than likely pretty basic to play now but it was the biggest technological change of my generation in gaming without a doubt.
You could also say the same with the move from 2d to 3d gaming. Zelda OOT and Mario 64 are more than likely pretty basic to play now but it was the biggest technological change of my generation in gaming without a doubt.
I saw this on Youtube the other day and how poor the money that came in.
"Resurrections, which received a mixed response from both critics and audiences, opened to a disappointing $22.5 million during its five-day holiday frame at the domestic box office."
https://www.cbr.com/matrix-resurrections-no-more-sequels/
"Resurrections, which received a mixed response from both critics and audiences, opened to a disappointing $22.5 million during its five-day holiday frame at the domestic box office."
https://www.cbr.com/matrix-resurrections-no-more-sequels/
Caporegime
Covid has a lot to do with it plus the new age of streaming = a lot more piracy I would have thought. I was quite surprised how easy it is to get a perfect quality version. Last time I can remember that was when all those Oscar movies were leaked on a DVD.
i think it was an interesting idea that should have been followed through with. Someone just losing their mind and the 3 original films were him slowly losing touch with reality. But it would have needed a director of equal "abstract" levels along the lines of David Lynch to pull that off.
Especially when the budget was almost $200 million, though factor in Hollywoods weird "accounting" and it'll likely need to make $500 million plus to start making money. And right now theres as much chance of that as the pope starring in a porno.
How do these people spend so much money for the best of the best supposedly and somebody does something like this as a hobby project?
Soldato
Have to be honest, I didn't dislike it. Felt like a love letter to the original films.
Don't feel it deserve quite such vicious hatred.
Don't feel it deserve quite such vicious hatred.
Associate
Cramming the film with awkward references to the original does not make it a love letter. If they actually cared about the original they wouldn’t have changed the style and completely dismantled the world they had created.