I'm not sure, I was watching RT on occasion to see what BS they were pumping out, the trouble with Russian propaganda is they mix a lot of truth in their lies and they use all sorts of dirty tactics, for example, they would slightly criticise Putin on occasion, now some westerners watching this would think, hang on my government is telling me RT is Russian propaganda and yet they criticise Putin so they must be telling to truth, they are masters of propaganda all these propaganda ideas were dreamed up by the KGB and their good ideas as they do work.
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I'm not sure, I was watching RT on occasion to see what BS they were pumping out, the trouble with Russian propaganda is they mix a lot of truth in their lies and they use all sorts of dirty tactics, for example, they would slightly criticise Putin on occasion, now some westerners watching this would think, hang on my government is telling me RT is Russian propaganda and yet they criticise Putin so they must be telling to truth, they are masters of propaganda all these propaganda ideas were dreamed up by the KGB and their good ideas as they do work.
He also doesn't like that there was a revolution in 2014 and the puppet government he had put in place was overthrown and replaced with a pro democracy and pro Western one. He believes Ukraine is his and he can't allow Russians who have lots of friends and relatives in Ukraine to realise that the grass is much greener on the other side, otherwise his regime could be in danger.
I believe this is why he took Crimea in 2014, as a precursor to what he's doing now (he wants control) and to make it much more difficult for them to join NATO and the EU (a nation in conflict with part of the country being contested by Russia is a big stumbling block).
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To a point maybe, but when you have people like Lavrov saying they haven't invaded Ukraine then there is a clear issue of telling bold faced lies that the rest of the world agrees isn't true.
Our media isn't perfect but on the whole I trust our news outlets to report the truth and verify facts, you have to take basically all news you see with a pinch of salt though, but you can build a pretty good picture from seeing information from various sources.
Journalistic integrity is important especially when you want your news coverage to be as accurate and neutral as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4&t=120s
Worth a watch if want some context behind Putin's actions.
I think the current reaction of Ukrainians has been pretty uniformly anti-Russian - regardless of their split in terms of voting/language/beliefs on Nato etc.
So perhaps some parts of this video and political analysis are a bit outdated from a Ukrainian perspective, but I think it helps explain Putin and the Russian stance quite clearly.
Worth a watch if want some context behind Putin's actions.
I think the current reaction of Ukrainians has been pretty uniformly anti-Russian - regardless of their split in terms of voting/language/beliefs on Nato etc.
So perhaps some parts of this video and political analysis are a bit outdated from a Ukrainian perspective, but I think it helps explain Putin and the Russian stance quite clearly.
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I get that but when you have the likes of Fox News and CNN doing their damndest to feed hyped up bullpucky as "News" when they're just fluffed up opinion pieces should they be shut down too? (Personally I think so as they're almost as bad a social media for feeding echo chambers but devils advocate for freedom of speech right?)
There was a time I used to watch RT maybe 2015-18. It was the finance programmes. Forgot what it was called but it was husband and wife who were both American. It was broadcast in London, looking on London Bridge.
Ahhh, it was the Keiser Report. Max Keiser and Stacey Herbert.
"On February 24, 2022, Keiser quit the show in response to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[4]"
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Rumours are that he's furious with the lack of progress it was supposed to be over in days and umpteen generals have been sacked, certainly one general who went to the front of the stuck convoy to Kyiv to cajole or berate the troops for lack of movement was assasinated by ukranian snipers and another was killed somewhere somehow
edit: found the source: https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/10/ukra...-generals-in-anger-at-slow-progress-16253423/
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In my opinion they should lose license to report "news" until they can show they can be trusted to do so truthfully and reliably. Otherwise it should be clearly labelled and broadcast as fiction/comedy etc. How do we decide truth? it should be easily identifiable with evidence and corroboration like all good news.
Putin is an ex KGB agent from the cold war. Rose to power by using his ex KGb (FSB now) friends as a hammer to get there.
He has controlled the elections ever since and brutaly put down any opposition in his way. The latest poor sod is Alexei Navalny. The poor sod has been poisoned Beaten half to death and jailed.
He is yearning for the old cold war days back and thinks he can take the countries from the old USSR days. He has a puppet in Belarus and next on the list was Ukrain, he need it to take the rest.
Unfortunately for Putin everyone is so scared of him they will never critisise or say no to him. His generals telling him they are a great superpower with a great military might gave him delutions of grandure.
His thinking was they go into Ukrain with this great all powerful military and the Ukranians will run in fear. He sweeps into Kyiv, topples the neo nazi rulers and puts a puppet in their place.
What he didn't expect was that his generals had to enlist kids, put run down and poory maintained junk armoured vehicles on the road to be torn apart by a well organised and trained military with state of the art kit to blow them to smithereens.
He is furious and know he looks like a fool now instead of the all conquering hero.
His tactics now is a being bad loser, blow the country to hell, if he cant have it no one can. He can still take Ukrain military wise, no one can rule that out but he can never keep Ukrain now.
He's lost no matter what happens now, if he tries to occupy it the sancions are never lifted and Russia dies an economic death, Russia's credit rating has already been turned into junk status and it can only get worse.
He needs an out, hopefully thats a bullet to the head but I would be surprised if any one can get near him as he must know its a possibility.
Personally I think he will find a way to claim victory and make it look to his people that they won, got rid of the neo nazis and sneak back home to lick their wounds.
Ultimately I believe it boils down to paranoia, megalomania and possibly a realisation that the clock is ticking either due to age or health or both on the part of Putin.
Going back a bit to the early 2000s both the US/West and Russia were meddling behind the scenes in Ukraine and that has helped to ferment things along to where they are now and I think Putin has read far more into that than is actually there - believing that there was a growing threat to Russia emerging, partly due to paranoia partly maybe from actually believing his own propaganda and to a much lesser extent based on reality - Ukraine does have some far right and neo-Nazi problems but it would be like judging all of England on the basis of the small number of scum who wash up at Magaluf and cause trouble. There are also some legitimate security concerns on the part of Russia but likewise this is mostly a small part of the story.
In more recent years we've had the events over Afghanistan and interactions between Biden and Putin which have made the West and especially the US look weak and I think this presents something of a conundrum to the psyche of the old school Russians who as a gross generalisation only really recognise strength and not getting the push back from an entity they perceive as being strong don't quite know how to deal with it - I think this has encouraged Putin that he could bully his way into Ukraine and the West would be too self-centred and weak to do much other than say a lot of words, lots of hand wringing but without much action. Additionally with rifts emerging between entities in the West and stuff like Brexit I don't think Russia expected much unity in action and probably a lot of disagreement over how to approach a military crisis in Ukraine.
EDIT: I also don't believe the US is as innocent in all this as some want to believe - there are some hawkish types in the ranks who'd be only too happy to see things warm up militarily and likely have helped to prod the fire along.
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There's no legitimate reason. It's power and land. Putin wants to fulfil his dream of a Greater Russia.
So as Russian forces close in towards Kiev I was thinking, it's the capital and the enemy has had a bit of time to prepare, so they probably don't want to got bogged down in urban combat. Surely they are just going to launch a massive sustained artillery barrage over many days, just completely mash the city far worse than they have dolled out elsewhere and basically make it so bad for the civilian population that they expect, perhaps incorrectly that defenders will be left with a lot of guilt if they keep fighting, countless thousands of innocent lives to be taken away unless they put down their weapons.
The Azov battalion, I actually saw that Roger Walters mentioned them on YouTube could hardly believe it but yep if true, then Militarized Neo-Nazi's fighting on the side of Ukraine.
*Maxar: The Russian Military Convoy North of Kyiv Has Dispersed and Been Redeployed.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSW1N2TQ02R
~News from 1h 40min ago.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSW1N2TQ02R
~News from 1h 40min ago.
Latest satellite photos suggest they've dug in on the outskirts of surrounding towns/villages and some seem to be moving off to an unknown objective.
From what I could gather as always it’s complicated… but there is definitely a neo nazi component to Azov - the info I was reading suggested up to 20% would identify as such, the rest more identifying as ultra nationalists. The organisation itself identifies as the latter, but definitely can’t hide that within its ranks individuals are neo nazi.
On the other side of the fence of course you also have the Sparta battalion fighting for (and backed by) Russia who are also very much considered neo-Nazis… and the two have been fighting each other. Bizarre world we are living in!
There’s certainly no easy way to dismiss the significance of either, but Azov did come to exist during the struggles of 2014 and it was probably seen as counter productive to do anything to stop them when they were helping to fight the Russians after Crimea and the rebellions in the east.
edit linky https://www.risetopeace.org/2021/07...an-angels-or-notorious-extremists/risetopece/
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The problem is the "good stuff" generally refers to stuff they only have a couple of, the Russian war machine spent the 90s/00s bankrupt and is still greatly underfunded for what Putin expects of it.
Russia like to play like they're a world leader in military hardware (and they are a leader in selling stuff to countries the west won't) but most of their stuff falls into three main categories:
(1) Old soviet stuff: Their T-72 and T-80 tanks, their MiG-29 and MiG-31 jets, their Su-24/25/27/30/34 jets. It's all Soviet era hardware albeit with a couple of upgrades fitted here and there.
(2) Old soviet stuff with the names changed to make them appear new: Their T-90 tank? It's a late 80's T-72 variant with a couple of upgrades and the name changed to make it more appealing to export customers, no joke, and to add extra comedy the ones built since the year 2000 are actually worse than the ones they made in the 1990s because they couldn't afford to reopen the factory line so just started building themselves the export spec ones they designed for India. The MiG-35 and Su-35? they're MiG-29 and Su-27 jets with updated names and a few upgrades fitted, it would be like the RAF unveiling a new jet and it's a Tornado with thrust vectoring xD
(3) Actual new stuff they only have a couple of because they either can't afford to buy them or can't get them working (or both): Their awesome super T-14 tanks? They have two of them and they haven't officially entered service yet. Their awesome mega Su-57 jets? They have four of them. Hell they only have eight MiG-35s and they've been trying to sell them to other countries since 2007.
Yeah, Azov started as an independent paramilitary group and was eventually absorbed into Ukraine's National Guard (largely out of necessity, to defend Donbas). It's not representative of the government or the military as a whole. It's one battalion in Donbas.
It's true but context is important.
A good analogy would be, if the EU invaded the UK (I said a good analogy not a likely to happen analogy
) and the government allowed the EDL to join the army reserves because we needed every fighter willing to defend the country.In fact that's pretty much a perfect analogy lol.
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