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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

sbannon09 said:
When did they come back online for pre order? I presume this is the wave for Jan25?
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I had it in my basket from another time - when I checked between 6-7pm I noticed it was available to pre-order and I ended up pre-ordering at 00:10~ (I was trying to finalize the build I wanted) - so it was available to me for a good couple of hours.
I didn't see any dates from my basket and I didn't check the product page. From reading the previous posts saying that they're not likely to have any extra stock until Jan, I can only guess it'll be Jan, but I have no clue.
 
matty007 said:
That’s fair. But, there’s not much reason to not run PBO and +200mhz offset.

It’s free performance, and extremely easy to do.
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Sorry yes pbo is something I do, I just CBA benching and trying to find the best value. I just go with -20 all and leave.
Never touched offset and wouldn't know where to look.
 
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IceWolf said:
Ehh, personal experience of negative Curve Offsets on the 5800X, 5900X, 7700X and 7800X3D have taught me that I can be stable in benchmarks, stable in stress tests overnight (OCCT, Prime 95) and still get random hangs or crashes every week or so playing games. It stopped being worth it to me losing progress in a single player game or being disconnected from a Counter Strike match or a hard Destiny 2 strike just for a couple more FPS or slightly lower temperatures. I usually end up settling on -10 offset after starting at -30 but 2 of my CPUs were only completely bug free at -8.

I likewise tried the manual memory tuning from Buildzoid that is "guaranteed" to be stable and the automated memory tuning using Ryzen DRAM Calculator from 1usmus. Both were faster, could pass benchmarks and got me some decent ePeen scores but neither were stable (the DRAM calculator especially so).

I had a lot of fun tuning my chips over the last few years but ultimately I am looking for stability and therefore I think with the 9800X3D I am probably going to leave it at stock with EXPO since it has so much headroom above my monitor's max refresh rate. Sorry to be a party pooper
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I largely agree. Of course we’re going for complete stability.

The only thing I will say however, which I have said before, is that CPU overclocking/undervolting is quite a simple process, and one which is easy to optimise. If it’s not stable? Just roll back by -10 and go again. Chances are it will be stable. If it’s not? Just roll back again.

You should be able to diagnose a unstable CPU overclock/undervolt quite quickly. The only exception to this is FCLK which can be VERY hard to assess and optimise. It can cause issues which are very vague and hard to pinpoint.

Also, with CPU overclocking, there is no risk of data loss or OS corruption like there is with RAM. Although I will say that these are very rare occurrences. Still, trying to dial in RAM is a very long process because you’re dealing with a multitude of timings, and have to test for stability each time you change a single one, for hours at a time.

However, yes, I completely understand the people that don’t want to tinker and just use their system.
 
Noxia said:
Just got one. £427* The funny thing is I wasn't even looking for one.

*It was £449 but I get a discount through a work thing. So probably looking at about 150 quid to upgrade depending on what I can sell my 7800X3D for.
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Judging by what I sold mine for (£375), it should cost you around £50-£60 to upgrade.

Not bad to keep up with the top line of performance lol.

This is exactly why it’s a gross misconception that it’s expensive to upgrade every gen. If you factor in resale of still valuable components, it’s well worth doing, and you keep a system that’s staying at the top line rather than slowly being left behind and you then have to invest 100% cash or close to it to upgrade again.
 
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