AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

[InVitriol]

yes i use a u12a and it cools it very well

edit: sorry forgot to mention that i use the offset bracket and with a minus 40 curve see temps at 62 after 30 mins in cinebench

Thanks. I hadn't heard about them. Ordered!

 

[Varys]

Is everyone cancelling their orders, with the 9900/50x3d coming out in January?

 

[Mike25]

When did they come back online for pre order? I presume this is the wave for Jan25?

I had it in my basket from another time - when I checked between 6-7pm I noticed it was available to pre-order and I ended up pre-ordering at 00:10~ (I was trying to finalize the build I wanted) - so it was available to me for a good couple of hours.
I didn't see any dates from my basket and I didn't check the product page. From reading the previous posts saying that they're not likely to have any extra stock until Jan, I can only guess it'll be Jan, but I have no clue.

 

[JediFragger]

Is everyone cancelling their orders, with the 9900/50x3d coming out in January?

Double errrrr purchasers!!! (Dons don't like the D word when it comes to AMD, and we ain't talking about dick )

 

[the wopster]

Is everyone cancelling their orders, with the 9900/50x3d coming out in January?

Why? In all likelihood they won’t have a dual 3d cache die’s

 

[Narn]

Why? In all likelihood they won’t have a dual 3d cache die’s

early talk is this time they 'might'

 

[Combat squirrel]

duel 3d dies would be absolutely bat crazy bananas

 

[JediFragger]

duel 3d dies would be absolutely bat crazy bananas

They should make some for £999, I think they'd probably sell!

 

[Noxia]

I'm just going to slot mine in tomorrow and run it stock. I can't be bothered tweaking for minor gains especially on games I play

 

[matty007]

I'm just going to slot mine in tomorrow and run it stock. I can't be bothered tweaking for minor gains especially on games I play

That’s fair. But, there’s not much reason to not run PBO and +200mhz offset.

It’s free performance, and extremely easy to do.

 

[Noxia]

That’s fair. But, there’s not much reason to not run PBO and +200mhz offset.

It’s free performance, and extremely easy to do.

Sorry yes pbo is something I do, I just CBA benching and trying to find the best value. I just go with -20 all and leave.
Never touched offset and wouldn't know where to look.

 

[matty007]

Sold my 7800X3D for £375 in the end. And paid £319 for it.

Not often you make profit on a CPU lol

 

[matty007]

Ehh, personal experience of negative Curve Offsets on the 5800X, 5900X, 7700X and 7800X3D have taught me that I can be stable in benchmarks, stable in stress tests overnight (OCCT, Prime 95) and still get random hangs or crashes every week or so playing games. It stopped being worth it to me losing progress in a single player game or being disconnected from a Counter Strike match or a hard Destiny 2 strike just for a couple more FPS or slightly lower temperatures. I usually end up settling on -10 offset after starting at -30 but 2 of my CPUs were only completely bug free at -8.

I likewise tried the manual memory tuning from Buildzoid that is "guaranteed" to be stable and the automated memory tuning using Ryzen DRAM Calculator from 1usmus. Both were faster, could pass benchmarks and got me some decent ePeen scores but neither were stable (the DRAM calculator especially so).

I had a lot of fun tuning my chips over the last few years but ultimately I am looking for stability and therefore I think with the 9800X3D I am probably going to leave it at stock with EXPO since it has so much headroom above my monitor's max refresh rate. Sorry to be a party pooper

I largely agree. Of course we’re going for complete stability.

The only thing I will say however, which I have said before, is that CPU overclocking/undervolting is quite a simple process, and one which is easy to optimise. If it’s not stable? Just roll back by -10 and go again. Chances are it will be stable. If it’s not? Just roll back again.

You should be able to diagnose a unstable CPU overclock/undervolt quite quickly. The only exception to this is FCLK which can be VERY hard to assess and optimise. It can cause issues which are very vague and hard to pinpoint.

Also, with CPU overclocking, there is no risk of data loss or OS corruption like there is with RAM. Although I will say that these are very rare occurrences. Still, trying to dial in RAM is a very long process because you’re dealing with a multitude of timings, and have to test for stability each time you change a single one, for hours at a time.

However, yes, I completely understand the people that don’t want to tinker and just use their system.

 

[matty007]

Just got one. £427* The funny thing is I wasn't even looking for one.

*It was £449 but I get a discount through a work thing. So probably looking at about 150 quid to upgrade depending on what I can sell my 7800X3D for.

Judging by what I sold mine for (£375), it should cost you around £50-£60 to upgrade.

Not bad to keep up with the top line of performance lol.

This is exactly why it’s a gross misconception that it’s expensive to upgrade every gen. If you factor in resale of still valuable components, it’s well worth doing, and you keep a system that’s staying at the top line rather than slowly being left behind and you then have to invest 100% cash or close to it to upgrade again.

 

[the wopster]

early talk is this time they 'might'

They guy that normally gets the leaks right has already said it’s a single 3d cache

 

[parisv]

Hi, could someone recommend some overclocking settings for my setup? I've enabled PBO +200mhz -30 curve. For the ram this picture shows FCLK 2000, 2200 seems to be stable but then not sure what to set for infinity fabric Gear 1 Gear 2 on msi tomahawk. I naively bought this ram https://www.gskill.com/product/165/390/1723430443/F5-8000J3848H16GX2-TZ5NR wen I was in the US as I saw it being used in leaked benchmark results for the 9800x3d so now i can't return it so I'll just have to use it. I'm new to overclocking so please excuse the obvious mistakes

 

[Noxia]

Installed, put a -20 all core on and my testing will be if it crashes when I'm gaming.

Did one Cinebench R23 for science, multicore 22569, that was with -20 and +200.

-30 gave 22747.

 

[parisv]

Hi, could someone recommend some overclocking settings for my setup? I've enabled PBO +200mhz -30 curve. For the ram this picture shows FCLK 2000, 2200 seems to be stable but then not sure what to set for infinity fabric Gear 1 Gear 2 on msi tomahawk. I naively bought this ram https://www.gskill.com/product/165/390/1723430443/F5-8000J3848H16GX2-TZ5NR wen I was in the US as I saw it being used in leaked benchmark results for the 9800x3d so now i can't return it so I'll just have to use it. I'm new to overclocking so please excuse the obvious mistakes

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[vidyagaemenjoyer123]

Why? In all likelihood they won’t have a dual 3d cache die’s

Does the 9800X3D has a Dual 3D Cache Die?

 

[Bidley]

Managed to settle on -40 all core +200 boost. Couple of rounds of Cinebench R23 (23677) and seems solid, maxing out at 73C. At stock i was up to 78C+, -30 without the boost I was just over 60C so worth doing the offset just for efficiency purposes.