What would you call an average wage?

finga said:
LOL, how is that pathetic, and how is it anything to do with being polish, if that is the job requirements and you dont want to accomodate them then why even go for the job in the first place, you dont have rights to a job simply because youre a native, polish girl was probably more attractive anyway lol
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Its pathetic that poor girl will be living like a slave, it demeans us all if this thing becomes common place. That is how most employer would like us all, dirt cheep labour is worth its weight in gold.
 
well im sure if she doesnt like it she will get a new job, there was no mention about the wages either, just that with live in accomodation there would be no issues with time off and readily available for overtime at the going rate! of course that is how employers would like us all!!!!

btw, the signed disclaimer is something required by law if you want to work over 40 hours a week, you have to opt out of the governments 39 hour week law, you do get paid overtime rate for anything over 40 hours, i know because in the past i have had to sign one myself for a 45 hour standard week
 
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Im on about £23k a year. Id call it about average really. All the money to be made in my trade seems to come from working away or owning your own buisness
 
In Denmark i'd say it's around 33K £ per year with the current exchange rates. That's what you would get if you went up to a job immediately after graduating. Most people after a couple of years in the private sector (we have a huge public work force here, their wages are not as high as in the private work force) you will get 4000£ + a month.
 
CS||nuTs said:
lol 25k is not to good
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Why are you acting so big? Your old. By the time im your age I hope to be earning a lot more than yourself. At 23 I will be taking home just over 30k this tax year, maybe more if my little ventures take off. My fiance earns the same as me at 21. I would say average wage to be around 24k
 
I earn (with a bit of overtime) about 21K a year. This isn't bad for an almost unqualified lout and I'm very pleased to be earning that much. Most of the people I know are on many thousands a year less, but work just as hard, in fact probably harder. I also think that the whole concept of an finding an average wage in this country is a futile exercise, as the discrepancies from region to region, especially when adding London in to the mix, are just too dramatic.

And by the way, some of the posters in this thread could do with a reality check.
 
At the minute I make around 21k with overtime, but that is with full study support and I will be getting a minimum of a 2k rise per year over the next 3 years.

My other half is on 25k and suppliments this with another 4k through working at the weekend, so we have a combined salary of around 50k and a take home of nearly 3k per month. Our mortgage with all bills included is £1200 and we are left with £1800 a month to eat with and pay for misc expenses, insurance, petrol, holidays etc...

For the last 6 months we have saved over 1k each month towards our wedding in October. We have one runaround car and one decent car bought new three years ago. Our flat is great, a good size and in a nice area and we are planning to start a family next year.

People's expectations are much too high nowadays. Most families in the 80s barely had two brass pennies to rub together with nothing to show for their lack of cash, yet today we will happliy avoid children if they are going to have an impact on our living standards or number of foreign excursions you have. Life is not meant to be easy, it's meant to be a challenge, too many people seem to forget that.

I'll give you my other half's brother as an example. He earns 50k a year, but his wife works 2 days a week because they have just had their first child. They decided that they needed a new house because their three bedroom semi wasn't big enough for them and their kid. So, off they went and spent 430k on a 5 bed detatched to house three people. They have a 280k mortgage and they take home marginally more than me and my other half who could happliy bring up at least one child in our appartment.

So, with their mortgage renewal up this year they are facing a 20% rise in their mortgage outgoing all because their expectations of what they should be able to have in life is greater than their means to live that way.

Society seems to have become conditioned into this way of thought, that everything just falls into your lap.

If I have 2 children, a three bedroom house is enough for our needs. I have positioned myself in a career that will pay me 40k or more in the next 6-7 years, my fiance will go to about 35k and we will own our flat outright in 12 years, i'll be 38 at that point. we will have a combined wage that will eb around 80k and probably 2 kids. None of this is a short term plan, that's why it's called building a life, too many people seem to want to just buy one asap.
 
I'm on anywhere between 19,500 to 22,500 depending on how much mind numbingly tedious overtime i do.

Hopefully, the amount of ass kissing ive done this past fortnight will earn me a transfer and i can get get a proper job again.
 
SpeedFreak said:
At the minute I make around 21k with overtime, but that is with full study support and I will be getting a minimum of a 2k rise per year over the next 3 years.

My other half is on 25k and suppliments this with another 4k through working at the weekend, so we have a combined salary of around 50k and a take home of nearly 3k per month. Our mortgage with all bills included is £1200 and we are left with £1800 a month to eat with and pay for misc expenses, insurance, petrol, holidays etc...

For the last 6 months we have saved over 1k each month towards our wedding in October. We have one runaround car and one decent car bought new three years ago. Our flat is great, a good size and in a nice area and we are planning to start a family next year.

People's expectations are much too high nowadays. Most families in the 80s barely had two brass pennies to rub together with nothing to show for their lack of cash, yet today we will happliy avoid children if they are going to have an impact on our living standards or number of foreign excursions you have. Life is not meant to be easy, it's meant to be a challenge, too many people seem to forget that.

I'll give you my other half's brother as an example. He earns 50k a year, but his wife works 2 days a week because they have just had their first child. They decided that they needed a new house because their three bedroom semi wasn't big enough for them and their kid. So, off they went and spent 430k on a 5 bed detatched to house three people. They have a 280k mortgage and they take home marginally more than me and my other half who could happliy bring up at least one child in our appartment.

So, with their mortgage renewal up this year they are facing a 20% rise in their mortgage outgoing all because their expectations of what they should be able to have in life is greater than their means to live that way.

Society seems to have become conditioned into this way of thought, that everything just falls into your lap.

If I have 2 children, a three bedroom house is enough for our needs. I have positioned myself in a career that will pay me 40k or more in the next 6-7 years, my fiance will go to about 35k and we will own our flat outright in 12 years, i'll be 38 at that point. we will have a combined wage that will eb around 80k and probably 2 kids. None of this is a short term plan, that's why it's called building a life, too many people seem to want to just buy one asap.
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Very realistic post.

Mine and my partners combined wage will be a tad higher and we are looking to buy a house this summer. I am too hoping that we will have around 2k a month after bills for short and long term savings.
 
I'm on 18K in London, which is a very low graduate salary... it's enough to survive, after expenses I have about 200-300 left over (assuming I don't go out in that month... lol)
 
I'll re-iterate what I said earlier and something that is the most important thing to me.
Where I used to work before redundancy the average wage was around £16,000 for 37 hours and we had a lot of workers who went to work for JCB.
At JCB they could easily boast that they made £27,000 a year BUT at what cost?
Their working week was at least 60 hours and they are expected to go in on a sat and sun morning.
I tried to get over to my 2 Brummie colleagues that they were actually on less than minimum wage when they took travelling time and petrol into the equation.
My working day starts from the minute I get out of bed to when I arrive home and to say any different is foolish.
So for me I get up at 8am, leave the house at 8:30am, arrive work at 8:45am, leave at 4:30pm, arrive home at 4:45pm (I could arrive later and leave earlier if I want).
That means I'm actually devoting around 44 hours to work for a £20,000 pay packet.
In working hours I'm doing 35 hours for a £20,000 pay packet.

It would be interesting to know what all you on a fantastic wage are putting in to your working day?
What time do you get up and what time do you arrive home and how many days a week.
Its OK for the Govt to say that the average wage is £24,000 but how much work are people putting in to earn that money over the week.
I reckon (and so do plenty of others) that out of the 619 of us who were made redundant last year, I'm doing the best with hours to wage ratio and the type of job I've got.
 
SpeedFreak said:
People's expectations are much too high nowadays.
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One interesting (and rather sad) problem with this is that the easy credit that's been available over the last decade has allowed those expectations to flourish.

Can't afford the lifestyle/PC/camera/car/boobs/granite worktop you aspire to yet? No problem! Consolidate all your aspirations into one easy to pay daydream thanks to Ocean Finance etc!

Unfortunately the credit crunch alarm clock's going off now for a lot of people and it's time for them to go to work in the real world.

Having said that, there are a *lot* of people earning much less than 23k a year and a lot of people earning significantly more. Depending on the circles you move in it's very easy to get the impression that either of these kinds of income levels are 'normal'.

Andrew McP
 
dmpoole said:
I reckon (and so do plenty of others) that out of the 619 of us who were made redundant last year, I'm doing the best with hours to wage ratio and the type of job I've got.
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You make some really interesting points. It's not just about the money... though if you're trying to raise a family, sacrificing a lot of commuting hours for relatively little extra money may, sadly, be a necessity.

Fortunately for me (I think?) I'm doing my bit for de-population and can get away with a low paid job only two minutes' walk away. It doesn't maximise my earning potential, but it maximises the amount of free time I have. I value that far more than money.

Both would be nice though. :-)

Andrew McP
 
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