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WEll you know what Robo's like he's always pull stuff out of this ass to try and win his side of a discussion. It's was something about Muslims the last time.:D


I love how ToString, whom I debate with often naturally takes up the side I'm opposing then talks behind my back when I go to sleep, and if you actually look at my post I'm trying to estimate from what I've seen of them.
Also, I don't pull numbers out of my arse, I guessed from what I'd seen of the Yogscast house, unlike the rest of you who just pulled numbers out of the air and guessed their income basing it upon what other, more famous, youtubers earn. I think my estimates are slightly more respectable than that. And last time, I compared something (Can't remember what now) to do with how muslims are generally seen now, as it was the only comparison I could think of at the time, that's not pulling stuff of your arse, that's comparing something. If you're going to try and act smug, atleast know what you're talking about before trying.
 
I love how ToString, whom I debate with often naturally takes up the side I'm opposing then talks behind my back when I go to sleep, and if you actually look at my post I'm trying to estimate from what I've seen of them.

How was he talking behind your back when his statement was open for everyone to see?

Also, I don't pull numbers out of my arse, I guessed from what I'd seen of the Yogscast house, unlike the rest of you who just pulled numbers out of the air and guessed their income basing it upon what other, more famous, youtubers earn. I think my estimates are slightly more respectable than that.
That not really a very good way to work out how much money someone earns, some people live very frugally but have money. Surely a better guess would be from people who also work in the same industry?

And last time, I compared something (Can't remember what now) to do with how muslims are generally seen now, as it was the only comparison I could think of at the time, that's not pulling stuff of your arse, that's comparing something.

You were trying to use Religious intolerance to push your agenda, which is completely unrelated.

If you're going to try and act smug, atleast know what you're talking about before trying.

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How was he talking behind your back when his statement was open for everyone to see?


That not really a very good way to work out how much money someone earns, some people live very frugally but have money. Surely a better guess would be from people who also work in the same industry?



You were trying to use Religious intolerance to push your agenda, which is completely unrelated.



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He talked when I had clearly stated I wouldn't be online again for a while, which means I cannot say anything, so people will only see one side of what happened.. Um, so yeah, that is pretty much talking behind my back.

And I don't know of anyone who works in the same industry that I have active contact with so >.>

It was a comparison, not to push my agenda, but so that others can see where I'm coming from. I can say in a situation about, say, marmite lovers vs marmite haters, its like labour and conservatives - neither can ever agree with each other, and it would make sense as I'm drawing up a comparison between two scenarios which are related in the fact they both have identical circumstances.
 
Yogscast's response to all this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/mnau9/yogscast_response_to_notchs_twitterings/

We’re sure many of you have seen or heard about Notch’s post-Minecon tweets, which were not what we expected to see when we got off the plane from Minecon – we’ve had a sleep now and recovered a bit, so this is our response:

We are very disappointed by these tweets from someone we admire and respect. We can understand that it was the morning after the deadmau5 party and Notch was very tired, but we are still fairly upset. The quotes and actions that Notch attributed to us were not said by us or published anywhere by us. Therefore we are surprised and confused about where this stuff has come from - especially since the only time we spoke to Notch was at the interview.

Regarding dropping f-bombs at the show - we apologise for this, but had rehearsed the whole show in front of the organisers and half of Mojang and they had approved it. We were given no guidelines or oversight in the weeks leading up to Minecon and there were ample opportunities at the rehearsal for Mojang to inform us of problems, such as being careful about swearing, which is pretty common in our youtube videos.

Out of all the tweets that Notch sent out, most hurtful was the accusation that we told a kid to “**** off” and crossed out another signature – which is something we would never ever do.

We loved spending time with fans and were overwhelmed by how many people were there to support us and give us gifts. Simon has enough Jaffas to last him until the middle of 2012. The problem was that Minecon is a new show and organisation was pretty bad, and when we came to the scheduled signing sessions, nothing had been set up for us and we had to scrabble around to fetch tables, ropes and pens ourselves. With some younger kids around, it was our priority to make sure everything was safe, as we have seen injuries in the past.

This lack of organization contributed to long and confused lines and we were heartbroken to have to turn away so many people when we ran out of time. Simon can only handle a certain amount of time between cups of coffee and nicotine tablets before collapsing, but we made a real effort to get out there and managed to do about six hours of signing. Although we were frustrated, we would never have treated fans in the way that Notch suggested we did.

We were also unhappy and surprised that a week before Minecon, Mojang informed us that they had sold the rights to livestream our show and content to IGN – they hadn’t asked us, they hadn’t spoken to us – they just sold it. Because of this, we nearly cancelled the trip, but decided to say “balls to it” and come anyway, because we felt we owed it to the fans. Hannah actually spoke with IGN directly earlier, and they agreed to take their video down and let us put the videos up on our channel, so a big thanks to them for that.

We were not paid, and never demanded to be paid. We asked for some support, and Mojang said they could offer us two hotel rooms for the duration of the stay and a small boardroom to rest in. We spent a huge amount of money on flights, rooms, food and equipment for the 10 people that we brought along to support us, act as security, make videos/posts and generally help out. We also gave away 100 special t-shirts for free.

The reason we came to Minecon is because we wanted to thank you guys and meet the community that we love and are a part of. We couldn’t have gotten to where we are now without you guys, and so we decided to eat the costs of attending and just have fun. This is why we spent our panel giving a voice to loads of talented people that couldn’t attend but have made Minecraft what it is today.

We’re not gonna stop making videos, not going to stop loving you guys, and hopefully we’ll see you at more gaming conventions in the future.

Lewis & Simon & Hannah

EDIT: Video linking to this post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HddMANh3Xis see, it is really me after all. Hi mother!
 
He talked when I had clearly stated I wouldn't be online again for a while, which means I cannot say anything, so people will only see one side of what happened.. Um, so yeah, that is pretty much talking behind my back.

LOL

No one can talk about robo when he's away to his ickle bed guys.

More LOL.
 

Notches response to the Yogscast response:

"Fair enough." (http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/mnau9/yogscast_response_to_notchs_twitterings/c32bh82)

Shocking...they've been verbally abused and had their website DDoS attacked due to Notch's posts, and yet the Yogscast still responded in a dignified manner, and that's all Notch can say. Not even an apology!
 
Notches response to the Yogscast response:

"Fair enough." (http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/mnau9/yogscast_response_to_notchs_twitterings/c32bh82)

Shocking...they've been verbally abused and had their website DDoS attacked due to Notch's posts, and yet the Yogscast still responded in a dignified manner, and that's all Notch can say. Not even an apology!

Read one post above yours.

It's not great but he's probably thinking that the less he says now, the better.
 
Loving how everyone just turns to DDoSing now when something doesn't go their way. I wonder if they know they are breaking the law. And attacking like total idiots in the process.

Mojang also released a statement on their Twitter:

"We found it hard working with Yogscast, but we regret that this was aired publicly. We will now sort this out with them directly."

https://twitter.com/#!/MojangTeam/status/139630389101735936
 
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Eh? You do know how a forum works, right?

Yes, I do, and when someone actively says "I can't respond to anything" your first reaction isn't to say something nasty about them, even on a forum. Because while I can view the post, it'll take a while and leave him for 8 hours to only have his view/insult/whatever posed. If it was related, I'd be fine, but insulting someone is not necessary, off topic, and doing it at a time when I cannot respond to it is simply pathetic and rather offensive.
Enough of that anyway.

Really happy this got sorted out, as it effectively split a line between Notch Supporters and Yogscast Supporters, which was a horrible thing indeed.
 
But you can respond - when you get up the next day.

This isn't a chat room.

No, but neither is it a forum dedicated to insulting others so that they cannot respond for a time.
Is it my responsibility to make sure nobody's insulted me while I was asleep and take up time that can be better spent? No.
Should that person insult me in the first place? No.
I can respond, yes, eight hours later, when everyone is able to see the insult and I'm not able to respond for the time in between.
It's like Animal Farm when Napoleon starts blaming Snowball for anything that goes wrong, he cannot defend himself as he is not there, so others must for him, and they only see one side.
Anyway, I hope that ends this as I'm rather sick of it now tbh.
 
Not really. If you're desperate to get the last word in then it's only going to end when the other person gets bored of the discussion. Don't get me wrong, it's boring, but it's really surprising that you don't know how a forum works.
 
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