Why is AMD quiet about black screens on 290x?

Marine-RX179 · 9 Jan 2014 at 11:12

old gamer said:
ive tried resuming game in cod ghosts and get a black screen immediately

Is the memory clock at stock or overclocked?

DazQ87 · 9 Jan 2014 at 11:18

LtMatt said:
Aside from a possible faulty card im pretty convinced this is a immature driver issue.

I am sure that this is the case, with perhaps 1 or 2 acutually faulty cards it has to be the driver. As I posted a few pages back, I can run BF4 on maximum settings with the GPU usage at 100% for hours on end with no crashes, max temperature 84c with a custom fan profile on afterburner, all at stock.

I run DOTA 2 for 10 minutes and I get a black screen at the most odd times when my GPU usage is really really low. Eventually the black screen will recover (I can still hear the audio in the background) and I will get the classic "display driver stopped responding and has recovered" message.

Once I get this message my GPU memory will be stuck in 2d mode at 150MHz rather than 1250. Only a reboot will allow it to clock back up to maximum frequency.

old gamer · 9 Jan 2014 at 12:19

I just tried starting cod ghosts from an earlier save and all was well until it blackedscreened at the the exact same location, surley its got to be a software problem

old gamer · 9 Jan 2014 at 12:20

Marine-RX179 said:
Is the memory clock at stock or overclocked?

running stock although the 290 is flashed to a 290x

Kobi · 9 Jan 2014 at 13:14

old gamer said:
I just tried starting cod ghosts from an earlier save and all was well until it blackedscreened at the the exact same location, surley its got to be a software problem

I'd assume it is a software problem. Even my 7970 black screens on ghosts. Awful game. Really wish they sort it out. Was actually hoping they would have fixed it by now, but obviously not.

LtMatt · 9 Jan 2014 at 13:25

Kobi said:
I'd assume it is a software problem. Even my 7970 black screens on ghosts. Awful game. Really wish they sort it out. Was actually hoping they would have fixed it by now, but obviously not.

Interesting.

old gamer · 9 Jan 2014 at 16:28

my 7970's played cod fine apart from crossfire not working but one card was ample anyway

Excalibur_2102 · 9 Jan 2014 at 19:37

Hi guys, I wondered if any of you could help me a little..

Ive been having black screen issues primarilly in Demanding DX11 (Bioshock, metro LL crysis 3). However, they do not continuously happen with me... Basically the scenario is I might get home from work, boot up the PC from cold and load of one of the above games and then I get a black screen within, say, 10 minutes. I obviously have to do a hard reset, but once this is done I can play all night without a blackscreen. So it happens once, I reset, then its fine all night... However it does it the one time guaranteed I think.

Any ideas what might be causing this? Im currently fiddling around with the voltages but nothings worked yet. Its kinda difficult to test to see if it works though :/.

LtMatt · 9 Jan 2014 at 19:43

Excalibur_2102 said:
Hi guys, I wondered if any of you could help me a little..

Ive been having black screen issues primarilly in Demanding DX11 (Bioshock, metro LL crysis 3). However, they do not continuously happen with me... Basically the scenario is I might get home from work, boot up the PC from cold and load of one of the above games and then I get a black screen within, say, 10 minutes. I obviously have to do a hard reset, but once this is done I can play all night without a blackscreen. So it happens once, I reset, then its fine all night... However it does it the one time guaranteed I think.

Any ideas what might be causing this? Im currently fiddling around with the voltages but nothings worked yet. Its kinda difficult to test to see if it works though :/.

Is this at stock clocks? Try using a custom fan profile with a fixed speed of 50-60% and see if that helps. Also ensure the power limit is at +50%.

Excalibur_2102 · 9 Jan 2014 at 20:19

Hi,

Its at stock, however it isa VTX3d 290 unlocked to a 290x. OCUK did this, not myself. My fan profile is relatively aggresive at the mo, though I could put a bit more into it. Might have to buy a soundproof headset though, lol.

Have you ever heard of it just happening once on cold boot? I cant for the life of me get it to happen twice at the moment... Ran about 24 runs of the metro LL benchmark earlier and it wouldnt happen. However I can virtually guarantee that tomorrow when I turn my PC on it will happen within 3-5 runs.

LtMatt · 9 Jan 2014 at 20:21

Excalibur_2102 said:
Hi,

Its at stock, however it isa VTX3d 290 unlocked to a 290x. OCUK did this, not myself. My fan profile is relatively aggresive at the mo, though I could put a bit more into it. Might have to buy a soundproof headset though, lol.

Have you ever heard of it just happening once on cold boot? I cant for the life of me get it to happen twice at the moment... Ran about 24 runs of the metro LL benchmark earlier and it wouldnt happen. However I can virtually guarantee that tomorrow when I turn my PC on it will happen within 3-5 runs.

Fair enough, probably nothing to do with the fan then. Are you using the latest 13.12 WHQL drivers?

Excalibur_2102 · 9 Jan 2014 at 20:27

yup, tried a few of the beta versions then updated to 13.12 as well... My power limit is set to +30, do you think setting it to +50 might help?

kleimo · 9 Jan 2014 at 20:34

Excalibur_2102 said:
Hi,

Its at stock, however it isa VTX3d 290 unlocked to a 290x. OCUK did this, not myself. My fan profile is relatively aggresive at the mo, though I could put a bit more into it. Might have to buy a soundproof headset though, lol.

Have you ever heard of it just happening once on cold boot? I cant for the life of me get it to happen twice at the moment... Ran about 24 runs of the metro LL benchmark earlier and it wouldnt happen. However I can virtually guarantee that tomorrow when I turn my PC on it will happen within 3-5 runs.

kleimo said:
Heres my notes of the black screen problem with 290X. My PC is powered down over night and when i start it for the first time it will black screen once within a hour. Then i power down and no problems after that. I think if i start the PC and then shutdown it when windows is loaded and start again im good without black screen. Other night i noticed when i black screened and was playing BF4 and talking with my friends in TeamSpeak3 when the black screen occured i was good for talkin to my friends even the black screen was present at the time. The catalyst beta 9.4 drivers were better and the delay of black screen increased but not gone.

kleimo said:
This problem havent improved with new drivers. Only workin solution is to start the pc once and shutdown and then start it again. What is strange is that it then works just fine whole day. Next im trying to keep the pc powered on night and see if it still works next day.

I have the similar problem and similar experiences. I have not powered down my pc since last quote and my uptime is now over 5 days and i have used it normallly as before (playing BF4 mostly).

LtMatt · 9 Jan 2014 at 20:34

Excalibur_2102 said:
yup, tried a few of the beta versions then updated to 13.12 as well... My power limit is set to +30, do you think setting it to +50 might help?

Worth a try. Is the gpu reaching the temp target or is it well below?

Excalibur_2102 · 9 Jan 2014 at 20:40

It reaches the target temp, which I just left at 95 i think

LtMatt · 9 Jan 2014 at 20:41

Excalibur_2102 said:
It reaches the target temp, which I just left at 95 i think

Use a custom fan profile to ensure it stays below the temp target. I believe there is a bug that sometimes if you let it reach the temp target, you get a black screen.

Excalibur_2102 · 9 Jan 2014 at 20:47

hmm... I will check it,,, To be honest I havent actually tried switching on, shutting down then starting back up again.. Might try it tomorrow

Gregster · 9 Jan 2014 at 20:48

LtMatt said:
Use a custom fan profile to ensure it stays below the temp target. I believe there is a bug that sometimes if you let it reach the temp target, you get a black screen.

I thought that the card was designed to run at 95c?

Excalibur_2102 · 9 Jan 2014 at 20:53

I think hes saying if it reaches your target temp it might black screen... so even if your target temp is 80 it could still black screen if it reaches it

LtMatt · 9 Jan 2014 at 21:13

Think its largely down to immature drivers and a completely new power tune implementation. Seems like they're a few kinks in the system that need ironing out.