Dyslexia

rossyl · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:06

A thread for mods and others who took the recently closed thread off topic...

Firstly, it's important to realise that it effects different people differently. There is no hard and fast rule to exactly what it can and cannot effect in someone's diction.

What can it effect

From here
http://www.dyslexia-parent.com/mag40.html

There are four main challenges for a dyslexic child:

1. Spelling
2. Sentence punctuation
3. Handwriting
4. Sequencing ideas

Also

From here http://www.interdys.org/servlet/compose?section_id=5&page_id=50

What are the effects of dyslexia?
The impact that dyslexia has is different for each person ... Some dyslexics do not have much difficulty with early reading and spelling tasks but do experience great problems when more complex language skills are required, such as grammar, understanding textbook material, and writing essays.

rossyl · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:07

even wiki has it... :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia

al123 · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:21

Not another one of these treads. Awaits all the usual, people with dyslexia are lazy and stupid comments :rolleyes:

iCraig · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:24

Dyslexics of the world untie!

G-MAN2004 · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:28

iCraig said:
Dyslexics of the world untie!

Moredhel · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:30

al123 said:
Not another one of these treads. Awaits all the usual, people with dyslexia are lazy and stupid comments

Not to disappoint;

I am dyslexic, I have to spell check posts as I type them, which has been aided greatly by Firefox and Safari in recent years and I always make a conscious effort in my punctuation, even though I do get it wrong sometimes, especially when it comes to commas. I usually end up redrafting a post several times before hitting the submit button, in fact this is about the 3rd version of this post.

People who come out with indecipherable posts then blame it on dyslexia may very well suffer from it, but they then exacerbate the problem by being too lazy to do any proof reading. They type the first thing that comes to them and hit the submit button without even considering stopping to check that it makes any sense at all.

I would never call dyslexic people stupid. I myself am a developer, I can code in a dozen programming languages and on top of that I am teaching myself Swedish and Greek. But I would submit that people blaming their 'condition' for the quality of their posts need to check that they're not just using it as an excuse for being bone idle.

5tephen · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:30

I hear there's a dyslexia for cure

Margaret · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:34

A dyslexic man walks into a bra...

Sorry had to do it.

I'm going to hell.

Cybermyk · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:43

Jihad said:
I'm going to hell.

Santa will take your soul for that

NokkonWud · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:44

Moredhel said:
I would never call dyslexic people stupid. I myself am a developer, I can code in a dozen programming languages and on top of that I am teaching myself Swedish and Greek. But I would submit that people blaming their 'condition' for the quality of their posts need to check that they're not just using it as an excuse for being bone idle.

Excellent post

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Ukadder · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:48

Good post Moredhel

singist · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:49

Moredhel said:
Not to disappoint;

I am dyslexic, I have to spell check posts as I type them, which has been aided greatly by Firefox and Safari in recent years and I always make a concious effort in my punctuation, even though I do get it wrong sometimes, especially when it comes to commas. I usually end up redrafting a post several times before hitting the submit button, in fact this is about the 3rd version of this post.

People who come out with indecipherable posts then blame it on dyslexia may very well suffer from it, but they then exacerbate the problem by being too lazy to do any proof reading. They type the first thing that comes to them and hit the submit button without even considering stopping to check that it makes any sense at all.

I would never call dyslexic people stupid. I myself am a developer, I can code in a dozen programming languages and on top of that I am teaching myself Swedish and Greek. But I would submit that people blaming their 'condition' for the quality of their posts need to check that they're not just using it as an excuse for being bone idle.

Exactly as above.

I've explained before that the odd spelling/grammar mistake or typo is not a problem for any of us; it's the bone idle, can't be arsed people who post absolute **** and then try to justify themselves by either claiming to be dyslexic or that "the language is evolving" etc that get to some of us.

[TW]Fox · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:51

True dyslexic people work damn hard and I have nothing but admiration for them - they are also some of the most intelligent people this country has to offer. Most of them will check through what they have written after doing it to ensure they've not made any mistakes and as a result you will often find the typed grammar of a dyslexic is better than most non dyslexic people becuase they check things through.

The people I can't be bothered with are the downright lazy people who just type a load of crap that barely makes sense and cite dyslexia when someone says 'huh'. These people are an embarrasment to the many hard working dyslexic people in this country.

Spuds · 18 Jun 2007 at 14:56

Moredhel said:
Not to disappoint;

snip

Same goes for me. I have to constantly think about what I'm typing and correct it several times or it would be near unreadable. Same with numbers, if I don't concentrate on them they start re-arranging themselves, which is a right pain in a maths exam.

I consider myself as having a good standard of written english but I know I have to concentrate to maintain it rather than just typing and hitting post.

G-MAN2004 · 18 Jun 2007 at 15:03

Did you hear about the dyslexic pimp?

He bought a warehouse.

rossyl · 18 Jun 2007 at 15:08

[TW]Fox said:
The people I can't be bothered with are the downright lazy people who just type a load of crap that barely makes sense and cite dyslexia when someone says 'huh'. These people are an embarrasment to the many hard working dyslexic people in this country.

I completely agree, there is no need for laziness.

However, I take exception to factually wrong statements that capitalisation isn't a dyslexia isuue. I also disagree with people generalising from their personal views on grammar when it is also something that can be effected by dyslexia.

[TW]Fox · 18 Jun 2007 at 15:11

rossyl said:
I completely agree, there is no need for laziness.

However, I take exception to factually wrong statements that capitalisation isn't a dyslexia isuue. I also disagree with people generalising from their personal views on grammar when it is also something that can be effected by dyslexia.

You are going to have to explain how something as fundamental as knowing that after a full stop you get a capital letter is something that you dont know when you are dyslexic becuase I don't buy it.

Look at Moredhel's post. Perfectly capitalised.

furnace · 18 Jun 2007 at 15:12

Wasn't there a news report a while ago that pretty much said dyslexia didn't exist? Or did I misunderstand something...

rossyl · 18 Jun 2007 at 15:15

[TW]Fox said:
You are going to have to explain how something as fundamental as knowing that after a full stop you get a capital letter is something that you dont know when you are dyslexic becuase I don't buy it.

Look at Moredhel's post. Perfectly capitalised.

You are going to have to conduct a scientific experiment on dyslexic people and find out why!

I am sure you could have read this...

rossyl said:
From here
http://www.dyslexia-parent.com/mag40.html

There are four main challenges for a dyslexic child:

1. Spelling
2. Sentence punctuation
3. Handwriting
4. Sequencing ideas

whitedragon · 18 Jun 2007 at 15:20

I wish i had never posted on this forum. I didn't come here to start a fight over dyslexia. I come here to build a pc and get advice all i have done is start a fight