Dyslexia

[Doosht]

I often spell words wrong even though i know the correct spelling. What usually happens is i get the order of the letters in the words 1 or 2 out.

i.e the other day (and this happens a lot) my missus laughed at the shopping list because i had put crsips instead of crisps. I know the correct spelling of course but i just wrote this without being concious of it.

Is this a mild form of dyslexia or am i just a berk?

 

[V4NT0M]

Oopps edited wrongly...

 

[iCraig]

I would say pretty much every education establishment would dissagree with that statement.

Why? It doesn't effect the mind in that way. Just because they have issues with spelling and punctuation etc, it doesn't mean they aren't intelligent. Dyslexics are notoriously very powerful lateral and creative thinkers.

If Albert Einstein was indeed dyslexic, it stands to reason. The theory of relativity. One of the important theories of modern science ever conceived, was done by a dyslexic.

 

[V4NT0M]

I often spell words wrong even though i know the correct spelling. What usually happens is i get the order of the letters in the words 1 or 2 out.

i.e the other day (and this happens a lot) my missus laughed at the shopping list because i had put crsips instead of crisps. I know the correct spelling of course but i just wrote this without being concious of it.

Is this a mild form of dyslexia or am i just a berk?

I believe that is dyslexia, I do something similar sometimes I mix up words, i get ahead of myself my brain starts thinking about the next word in the sentence and starts writing it. This happens much more frequentley when handwriting than typing though. And barely at all anymore, its funny though.

 

[Doosht]

I thought as much. My dads a full on dyslexic and it caused him a lot of problems when he was a kid in the late 40s/50s.

Im wondering if its able to be passed down through genetics then?

 

[Doosht]

I believe that is dyslexia, I do something similar sometimes I mix up words, i get ahead of myself my brain starts thinking about the next word in the sentence and starts writing it. This happens much more frequentley when handwriting than typing though. And barely at all anymore, its funny though.

Thats weird because its the same with me. Its far more prevelant when im writing as opposed to typing. I have to write a lot in my job and it can get a bit fed up of crossing stuff out

 

[V4NT0M]

Why? It doesn't effect the mind in that way. Just because they have issues with spelling and punctuation etc, it doesn't mean they aren't intelligent. Dyslexics are notoriously very powerful lateral and creative thinkers.

Because dyslexia isnt just to do with spelling and grammar. Some dyslexics only have mild issues like spelling and grammar, others it extends deeper and people have problems ordering their thoughts. Not to mention the difficulties dyslexia adds to learning, it is difficult to learn ideas and ascimilate information if you cannot understand it.

If Albert Einstein was indeed dyslexic, it stands to reason. The theory of relativity. One of the important theories of modern science ever conceived, was done by a dyslexic.

IF he was...

 

[D.P.]

where the heck did people start pulling the nonsense about Einstein being dyslexic. Certainly not the case.
Seems to be far too many dylexics trying to 'prove' to the world that they are some how better because they are dyslexic.

http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia_dyslexic/dyslexia005.htm

http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia_dyslexic/dyslexia016.htm

There is a good article covering this nonsense:
Rodin, Patton, Edison, Wilson, Einstein: Were They Really
Learning Disabled?, Adelman, Kimberly A.; Adelman, Howard S.

basically, no, they weren't.

This fable is just passed around by parents who want to liken their children to famous physicists. There is no evidence to substantiate such claims

 

[iCraig]

Because dyslexia isnt just to do with spelling and grammar. Some dyslexics only have mild issues like spelling and grammar, others it extends deeper and people have problems ordering their thoughts. Not to mention the difficulties dyslexia adds to learning, it is difficult to learn ideas and ascimilate information if you cannot understand it..

I suggest you read up on Dyslexia a bit more before claiming that they can and cannot do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia#General

Individuals with dyslexia:

May be bright, intelligent and articulate, however their reading, writing and spelling level is below their average age group.
Have the same intelligence range as people without dyslexia.
May have poor academic achievement due to their problems with reading and writing.
May have good oral language abilities but will perform much more poorly on similar written-language tests.
Might be labelled lazy, dumb, careless, immature, "not trying hard enough," or as having a "behavior problem."
Because dyslexia primarily affects reading while sparing other intellectual abilities, affected individuals might be categorised as not "behind enough" or "bad enough" to receive additional help in a school setting.
Might feel dumb and have poor self-esteem, and might be easily frustrated and emotional about school reading or testing.
Might try to hide their reading weaknesses with ingenious compensatory "strategies".
Might learn best through hands-on experience, demonstrations, experimentation, observation, and visual aids.
Can show talents in other areas such as art, drama, music, sports, mechanics, story-telling, sales, business, designing, building, or engineering.
Have related problems with attention in a school setting; for instance they might seem to "zone out" or daydream often; get lost easily or lose track of time; and have difficulty sustaining attention

So, for the final time: Dyslexia does not equal low intelligence.

 

[V4NT0M]

I suggest you read up on Dyslexia a bit more before claiming that they can and cannot do.

I suggest you read up on more than just wikipedia

So, for the final time: Dyslexia does not equal low intelligence.

I have never said that it does... However, being dyslexic does not equal high intelligence either.

 

[iCraig]

I suggest you read up on more than just wikipedia

Wikipedia is cited from multiple sources. I admit it's not always 100% accurate but if you have proof that it's wrong, go ahead and edit it. That's what Wikipedia is all about.

I have never said that it does...

Which is pretty much proof that dyslexia does not hinder potential intelligence whatsoever.

I would say pretty much every education establishment would dissagree with that statement.

However, being dyslexic does not equal high intelligence either.

Correct.

 

[V4NT0M]

I have never said that it does...

Which is pretty much proof that dyslexia does not hinder potential intelligence whatsoever.

I would say pretty much every education establishment would dissagree with that statement.

As I said in another post, dyslexia is a learning difficulty... It does hinder the intellectual development of individuals, hence why educational establishments give help and extra discretion with dyslexic students... Think about it for a moment... You're getting too caught up in the "dyslexic people are equal" mantra and ignoring the facts...

Dyslexic people are not stupid, and stupid people not usually dyslexic. The two words are not interchangable. I'm am not arguing that fact, what I am putting forward is that dyslexic people can achieve as much as people without it.

And dyslexia causes problems with thought arrangement, a lot of though occurs in language or by proxy in lexis of logic. For instance, a person with dyslexia might find it hard to understand a spatial or reasoning problem not because they cant understand the logic, but because even once they have read the problem they have touble transforming those words into a workable logical scenario.

 

[Admiral Huddy]

As I’ve said before, Dyslexia is very much misunderstood. It’s not a disease or illness so why would it stop anyone from being physically or mentally different from anyone else. I am Dyslexic but I don't have Dyslexia. There’s a big difference.

All that dyslexia means is to me is that I can't do something that most people can do easily. However, where I lack attributes in some areas, I make up in others and the same could be said for all of us in one way or another. Some people I know are excellent when it comes to academics but common sense is non existent. If we were all the same, then we wouldn’t be unique and that’s what annoys me about people who fail to understand what dyslexia is all about.

What puzzles a lot of people is that i'm poor at spelling, grammer and maths yet i've been programming for 20 years and lead a team of developers at a city bank. Where's the logic in that?

 

[V4NT0M]

As I’ve said before, Dyslexia is very much misunderstood. It’s not a disease or illness so why would it stop anyone from being physically or mentally different from anyone else. I am Dyslexic but I don't have Dyslexia. There’s a big difference.

All that dyslexia means is to me is that I can't do something that most people can do easily. However, where I lack attributes in some areas, I make up in others and the same could be said for all of us in one way or another. Some people I know are excellent when it comes to academics but common sense is non existent. If we were all the same, then we wouldn’t be unique and that’s what annoys me about people who fail to understand what dyslexia is all about.

lol I see what you mean... I think the problem in the general realm, and as that recent newspaper article showed is that too many people are being 'diagnosed' they are dyslexic when really they're just stupid. I know a few people who use this "i'm dyslexic" thing as an excuse for everything, it really irks me.

There is someone I know through a friend who is doing a comuting course at university, gets extra help and allowance in coursework and exams. It is plain to see from the coursework of his i've read that his grasp of the english language is fair, but the actual information he puts in his work is ludicrous at times. For instance, who puts 'I want to earn a good grade in the coursework to show my old boss' etc... in a dissertation... wtf...

Like I said earlier, i have dyspraxia, which made school etc quite frustrating, my handwriting is very bad and I always got marked down for presentation, not to mention teachers not being able to read my writing.

 

[triggerthat]

True dyslexic people work damn hard and I have nothing but admiration for them - they are also some of the most intelligent people this country has to offer. Most of them will check through what they have written after doing it to ensure they've not made any mistakes and as a result you will often find the typed grammar of a dyslexic is better than most non dyslexic people becuase they check things through.

The people I can't be bothered with are the downright lazy people who just type a load of crap that barely makes sense and cite dyslexia when someone says 'huh'. These people are an embarrasment to the many hard working dyslexic people in this country.

I have mild dyslexia, which doesn't effeect me on a large scale - however it does require me to go through things once again.

I had a friend who is also 'dyslexic' who recently stated that it was the reason behind his lack of english spelling. He questioned it at the disability office and the woman said: No, that's got nothing to do with it. You are clearly just thick. She didn't say the thick part but it certainly did sound like it.

Anyway - after going through the whole 'tests to make sure you are dyslexic' I had serious doubts about it as I am sure you can easily fool the system.

 

[Pottsey]

“Anyway - after going through the whole 'tests to make sure you are dyslexic' I had serious doubts about it as I am sure you can easily fool the system.“
It depends on your age. If you have it done young enough your not going to know how to fool the system. When I had the balance test done I had no idea what I was meant to be doing so had no idea how to fool the system even if I wanted to.

 

[LostCorpse]

I wish i had never posted on this forum. I didn't come here to start a fight over dyslexia. I come here to build a pc and get advice all i have done is start a fight

There, there. Dont worry about it. just do what ever it is you do.

I'm told i' ve been dyslexia ever since i was about 5years old, nothing helps alienate you when your taken out of classess or doing maths work the other kids did 2-3years ago. Though i do remmber enjoying the Fuz buz
ah the joys of youth.