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68xx pricing

So the long and the short of it is: no better price/performance this generation, just more profit per card for AMD.

Whoopie!
 
Too expensive considering what they are replacing i.e. 5770 As for lack of product the top guy at AMD, forgotten his name, was quoted as saying 100's of thousands of cards will be available...
 
Sounds quite reasonable but expect launch pricing to be a bit higher due to demand and lack of product as always.

Oh well, you wouldn't have my money in that case. Not unless the 6870 would drop to sub-£200

Hold on, it's Friday and these cards are due out early next week and you're talking like you don't know what you're going to charge for these cards. :o

Gribbo knows exactly what he's talking about, they're going to have a great mark-up at launch and people will still buy these cards. Yet again UK pricing will get bad publicity.

So the long and the short of it is: no better price/performance this generation, just more profit per card for AMD.

Whoopie!

Funnily enough 6870 will be selling at $250 in the US, whilst a slower and older 5850 is selling for $270. That's a bargain in my book. Obviously we're isolated from the better part of the world and are expected to pay 50% to third parties. Good luck with that.

Bear in mind the 6870 is the replacement for the 5770, not the 5870 as you might be lead to believe

That's not the reason and no, it's not. It's a replacement for 5850 and more importantly, a 470 competitor.
 
Hold on, it's Friday and these cards are due out early next week and you're talking like you don't know what you're going to charge for these cards. :o

Of course I know what I am gonna charge for them. However there is a thing called NDA.

Someone said $250, which I said is about right, remember any USD $ price you always add VAT too as any USD $ pricing you see advertised still has taxes to be applied depending on state/country and then etailor margins.
 
Bear in mind the 6870 is the replacement for the 5770, not the 5870 as you might be lead to believe

NO ITS NOT! I am so tiring of repeating myself now, does anyone actually read my post?

5770 has no replacement now, its replacement comes in Q1 next year.

6870 replaces 5830, expect 5830-5850 performance levels.

6850 is new and designed to compete with GTX 460 768MB and will perform between 5770-5830 levels.

5770 is staying, the 6850 and 6870 are faster new SKU's and priced as such.

5850 and 5870 replacements/speed bumps are coming November!
 
Of course I know what I am gonna charge for them. However there is a thing called NDA.

Someone said $250, which I said is about right, remember any USD $ price you always add VAT too as any USD $ pricing you see advertised still has taxes to be applied depending on state/country and then etailor margins.

Hmm ok it's just that the way you were posting suggested you hadn't finalised the price. Can I ask have the new cards arrived in the warehouse yet?
 
NO ITS NOT! I am so tiring of repeating myself now, does anyone actually read my post?

5770 has no replacement now, its replacement comes in Q1 next year.

6870 replaces 5830, expect 5830-5850 performance levels.

6850 is new and designed to compete with GTX 460 768MB and will perform between 5770-5830 levels.

5770 is staying, the 6850 and 6870 are faster new SKU's and priced as such.

5850 and 5870 replacements/speed bumps are coming November!

Whatever it is, my main point was it isnt the 5870 replacement
 
Looks like I'll be skipping this generation, as I expected. Based on these prices the 5850 replacement due next month (6950?) will cost far too much at launch to justify selling and replacing my current 5850 Vapor-X. Can't say I'm too bothered, my current card handles all the games I play like a champ @ 1080p, I'm far more interested in the 28nm cards due in a year or so. Thanks for all the info anyway.
 
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5850 and 5870 replacements/speed bumps are coming November!

Lol...so next weeks launch is a complete non event for people wanting something better than a 5850/5870 replacement...

Someone wake me up in Novemeber then please....:p

Or should i say January/Feb, as that is when you will be able to actually buy one at non price gouging launch fever prices...:rolleyes:
 
November when Gibbo ?
Start mid late ?

NDA, he won't tell you. It's good to know that the official date is backed-up by the retailer. There should be no major delays then. Also, Gibbo's claims that 6850/70 are between 5770 and 5850 performers are worrying, especially considering how he noted that there will be "etailers' tax" on top of the usual RRP+VAT.

If you guys wonder what that is, it's most definitely not the difference in price between the suppliers' selling price and what end-customers have to pay. It's just a mark-up from a new product that we're getting charged for great justice. If you want to avoid, wait a few weeks (assuming shortage in supplies at launch) or find an etailer that matches US pricing (in terms of RRP+VAT).

I can't see 6870 being slower than 5850 and costing more than £200 but hey, anything can happen. Hopefully there won't be too many muppets being lurked into purchase by forced advertising.

I'm looking forward to seeing if they have improved the tessellation performance to fermi levels or above.

This again. Not saying that it would be absolutely pointless but to be honest, who cares about tessellation performance these days? Games are still heavily GPU-dependant and no matter if you have Fermi or Radeon, you will struggle to get all the eye-candy with tessellation on. On the other hand, Radeon 5000s handle low tessellation just fine and that's what DirectX 11 market demands atm.
 
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Final specs here alledgedly

http://translate.google.com/transla...ueltige-spezifikationen-der-hd6850-und-hd6870

"As we learned from a business-related source, the HD6850 to 775MHz and tailed with 256bit memory from 1024 to 1000MHz. It also has 1120 stream processors. The HD6870 will be a core clock speed of 900MHz and a memory clock of 1050MHz, while also set to 1024MB and 256bit and will use both graphics cards in GDDR5. The HD6870 will include 1120 stream processors."
 
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