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68xx pricing

Its all about price, if they release them at high prices with not the performance to match then it doesn't matter spin they put on it not many will buy.

Look what happened to the HD5830. It was released circa 190-200, and retailers sneakily raised the HD5850 price. The 5830 was deemed a fail card, and soon nose dived to the 140 mark(coinciding with the 460 release) where it became a viable card to buy.
 
straxusii said:
Final specs here alledgedly

http://translate.google.com/transla...ueltige-spezifikationen-der-hd6850-und-hd6870

"As we learned from a business-related source, the HD6850 to 775MHz and tailed with 256bit memory from 1024 to 1000MHz. It also has 1120 stream processors. The HD6870 will be a core clock speed of 900MHz and a memory clock of 1050MHz, while also set to 1024MB and 256bit and will use both graphics cards in GDDR5. The HD6870 will include 1120 stream processors."
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Must be wrong.

This should be final now

AMD Radeon HD 6850 is going to end up some 50MHz faster than the leaks originally suggested. Official clock should be 775MHz.

The card has 960 Stream processors and raw power of 1.5 TFLOPs. As we said before, the card has 1GB GDDR5 memory with 256-bit memory interface resulting in speed of 4.0Gbps. In layman's terms, the memory runs at 1000MHz.

The launch is next Friday, October 22nd, and this card fights the slower version of Geforce GTX 460 with 768MB just fine. It should be slightly faster, but again we expect it will cost more.

The cheapest GTX 460 with 768MB sells for around €150 including VAT at European etail, and we believe that Radeon HD 6850 will end up being much more expensive. Of course, pricing can literally change in the last minutes, but we expect to have fixed prices next week.

This is definitely the most exciting launch in years, as things are changing even on the eve of launch.
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http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20514-hd-6850-gets-50mhz-faster-775mhz-is-the-clock
 
Yeah obviously buy the 6850 and clock its nuts off. Regarding tessellation, if I buy new tech and don't see a significant performance in a significant feature of DX11, I would be disappointed. Crysis 2 will use tessellation so hardware that runs it well will benefit.
 
easyrider said:
so the 6850 is going to be slower than the 5850?
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We don't know that. Rumours where that it will be as fast as 5850, a little slower, a little faster and now Gribbo said it will be in between 5770 and 5830, which is virtually impossible for its said pricing of £160-170. Everything is bull in my eyes.

Martini1991 said:
Much.
Even the 5870 will be slower.

This launch looks horrendously awful imo, if the 6870 is 180, I'll get two, if not, I'll go from my 5970 to a GTX480.
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You meant 6870. We don't know it, that's what Gribbo slipped though. I hope it's his assumption only and he's wrong.

RavenXXX2 said:
Yeah obviously buy the 6850 and clock its nuts off. Regarding tessellation, if I buy new tech and don't see a significant performance in a significant feature of DX11, I would be disappointed. Crysis 2 will use tessellation so hardware that runs it well will benefit.
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Crysis 2 will be a console port, no? We've yet to see how much of a difference it makes anyway. It's not a biggie to implement tessellation in any game, it is difficult to do it well and optimize it for graphics cards though. So far Fermi has a usual advantage in DirectX11 games with maybe 5-10% more due to its tessellation capabilities. Think Unigine Heaven where you can get double the FPS and then any game such as Metro 2033, where performance difference is similar to the difference between DirectX 10. On top of that, most tessellation effects are not shiny at all.

Also, there's like 99% chance that 6850 will have 15% less stream processors than 6870, that should reflect the performance difference as well. For comparison, the difference in processors count between 5850 and 5870 is 10% and the performance difference is about 15% (the difference in clocks speed is similar). There might be at least 15% difference between the two then.

easyrider said:
why?

It has to be faster in order for people to buy them....
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Unless they'll get trolled by AMD :rolleyes:
 
GJ02 said:
So the lot are looking disappointing then
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I'd wait for pricing and benchmarks TBH. Until then it's just made up **** on forums. There needs to be a performance jump soon tho, a £130 4890 from 18 months ago is still holding its own.
 
So it looks like AMD have slipped a bit than. Looking at pricing I don't think they would sell a part for 250 that's faster than what it replaced In other words the 6870 may well be slower the the Eol 5870 is that right?

So this time around NVIDIA can breath for the time being.

But like people say don't belive nothing till you see it.
 
AMG said:
So it looks like AMD have slipped a bit than. Looking at pricing I don't think they would sell a part for 250 that's faster than what it replaced In other words the 6870 may well be slower the the Eol 5870 is that right?

So this time around NVIDIA can breath for the time being.

But like people say don't belive nothing till you see it.
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*sighs*

People who don't read the threads should be suspended for posting :(

Radeon 6870 will probably be slightly slower than 5870 but I wouldn't expect it to be out of 5850's range. Most importantly, 6870 and 6850 are NOT replacements for 5850/5870. They're occupying a different market niche, currently set by likes of GTX460 768MB and 1GB. Radeon 5850s are being sold for $270 ($310 at launch) and 5830s are sold for $190 ($240 at launch). 6850 and 6870 are said to be $200 and $250 respectively. See how it varies from the current (previous) generation? UK pricing has nothing to do with AMD, we're screwed over at several areas.
 
It seems like the 6800 series is more akin to the 4800 series in its performance level in the AMD graphics card range. The 6900 series is the HD6000 series equivalent of the HD5800 and HD5900 series.

However,it is possible that AMD will change the naming scheme at the last moment though!! :p
 
gibbo has pretty much said whats in the cards and what to expect
he is the man with more pulse action than anyone else here.
im taking what gibbo says as to be more accurate than anyones guess work on here
 
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