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Not from me, as you are the same generation as murray you would think he would be able to remember these drivers for the list as well as you
It isn't just Murray 'voting' though is it? It's the BBC F1 team voting, doing a tally-up, then Murray doing a piece-to-camera talking about the driver
Such lists will always have a bias towards the present greats, in another 10 years most people would have forgotten them...
I get the biased lists thing, but do you really believe that WCs will be forgotten in 10years?
I get the biased lists thing, but do you really believe that WCs will be forgotten in 10years?
Forgotten in terms of greatest drivers, Jacques Villeneuve would have probably featured in that list if it was compiled in 1998 but now I doubt anyone would consider him one of the greats.
Ah see how you mean... Guess there will always be those drivers that stand out a lot more than others, plus there are so many factors which could be taken into account when deciding who is the 'best' or even what being the best entails!
Since you bring up Alex Zanardi...
I think his second F1 stint in 1999 was not fully understood by people who just saw "Zanardi drove like crap". He did acknowledge his failings and lack of motivation in the last few races, but when you're given a race engineer with no F1 experience, a car that falls to pieces virtually every race (8 mechanical DNFs, loose seats\floors, you name it) and limited track time because of yet more car failures in practice...on top of that, no agreement with the team on how to approach car setup or even just establish a positive working relationship. Williams' driver management was complete tripe back then.
The one race where Alex got the car set up to his liking and some proper practice laps, he ran ahead of RS until brake problems. His successor Jenson Button had similar pre-race problems in his first race for Williams, and despite having a better car performance-wise than the 1999 crapwagon, he qualified back with the Prosts. Didn't do much better in the race either.
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Oh my god... That was a harrowing read. I didn't realise the extent of the damage to his body that was done on impact...
"Monaco race did not clash with any other major sporting events on free-to-air television. Yet between them,
Sky and the BBC attracted less than three-quarters of the 2011 audience."
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/09/06/uk-f1-tv-figures-bbc-sky-2012/
Most knew that sky would be bad for F1
Sky and the BBC attracted less than three-quarters of the 2011 audience."
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/09/06/uk-f1-tv-figures-bbc-sky-2012/
Most knew that sky would be bad for F1
They were pretty sad-looking by 2005, IIRC. One of the reasons for drastic rule changes (that turned out to be worse).
all time peak 99.99999% of germans tuned in
It would be interesting to see if they had a 9.5% or greater drop year on year. After a dominant season the casual viewers are the first to go.
http://f1broadcasting.wordpress.com/category/itv-f1/
So drops from the previous year:
2001 - 16.1% drop
2002 - 9.1% drop
2003 - 3.1% drop
2004 - 8.4% drop
2005 - 1.6% rise
So it could be to do with Vettel dominating. However if you look at the recent figures, it could just be the start of a downward curve anyway following a massive rise in 2007, 08 and 09.
Obviously the Sky deal is a factor, but I think blaming the whole drop just on Sky is far too narrow minded. There are lots of other major factors going on. Looking at when those figures rose the most, I'd say the biggest factor has been the performance of Lewis and Jensen.
So drops from the previous year:
2001 - 16.1% drop
2002 - 9.1% drop
2003 - 3.1% drop
2004 - 8.4% drop
2005 - 1.6% rise
So it could be to do with Vettel dominating. However if you look at the recent figures, it could just be the start of a downward curve anyway following a massive rise in 2007, 08 and 09.
Obviously the Sky deal is a factor, but I think blaming the whole drop just on Sky is far too narrow minded. There are lots of other major factors going on. Looking at when those figures rose the most, I'd say the biggest factor has been the performance of Lewis and Jensen.
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Alex Zanardi has won his second Paralympic gold, the guy is pretty damn amazing!
Complete legend.
I love the fact that he went back to the track where he had his accident and drive and adapted indycar and complete the laps he missed.