Hugh's Fish Fight.

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great piece of programming tbh, love a bit of the toadstall.

so sad to see how much waste there is and also the destruction of peoples jobs they have had for 10s of years!

the politician whilst he didnt know his fish (wasnt really expecting him to) certainly had a good attitude.

i cant see why they put a time limit on the catches for unlimited catch...surely thats a better option and at least removes the waste.
 

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The idea with the cod quota is that they shouldn't be catching those cod in the first place. The incentive is supposed to be that if they don't want to be throwing the cod away, use a method of fishing that is more sustainable than catching all and sundry from the sea.
 
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The idea with the cod quota is that they shouldn't be catching those cod in the first place. The incentive is supposed to be that if they don't want to be throwing the cod away, use a method of fishing that is more sustainable than catching all and sundry from the sea.

so what your saying is that every single fisherman in the world has to spend millions of pounds THEY DONT HAVE, to attempt to avoid catching a heavily populated species of fish...whatever way you look at it its a rediulous statement.
you cant just attempt to catch 1 fish out of 20 - you would be there forever.
 
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Discards are disgraceful...
They should limit the numbers of day at sea and let them land everything they catch. They should also have cctv to monitor they are not discarding low value fish.
The fisheries minister couldnt even recognise common fish!!

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The idea with the cod quota is that they shouldn't be catching those cod in the first place. The incentive is supposed to be that if they don't want to be throwing the cod away, use a method of fishing that is more sustainable than catching all and sundry from the sea.

The quota is no way what so ever provides a way not to catch cod though. All that is does is provide a target that is never exceeded because it doesn't include cod that are not landed.

In actual fact the quota is exceeded.
 
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The idea with the cod quota is that they shouldn't be catching those cod in the first place. The incentive is supposed to be that if they don't want to be throwing the cod away, use a method of fishing that is more sustainable than catching all and sundry from the sea.

That's not remotely realistic though, its easy to only catch cod because they are massive so large gauge nets can be used, but once cod was restricted the only thing fisherman can do is to lower the mesh rate, this allows the smaller breeds to caught but also cod as a regretable bi-product.

Unfortunately you can't select which fish jump in a trawl net and to change tackle/setup completely for say prawn/shell fish would cost a fortune and maybe require a different boat completely due to booms etc..
 
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Sainsburys does mackerel at the fish counter and cheap, compared to salmon/cod


Will have to try this my mum loves mackerel (and potatoes :p)


what's so stupid, is the quotes where set up to save fish, how does this fullfill the design requirements.


Surely now it does the exact opposite, as X amount of fish needs to be caught but with each boat throwing some back for going over it's quota instead of say using 10 boats to get X you end up with 11 catching X + throwing Y back.
 
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its also illegal to ring your mate up on another boat and share your extra cod with him, two of my friends were fined £125,000 for doing that, yet its fine for them to throw it overboard

utterly daft
 
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its also illegal to ring your mate up on another boat and share your extra cod with him, two of my friends were fined £125,000 for doing that, yet its fine for them to throw it overboard

utterly daft


it is illegal to share cod?
I don't get it....
 
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The idea with the cod quota is that they shouldn't be catching those cod in the first place. The incentive is supposed to be that if they don't want to be throwing the cod away, use a method of fishing that is more sustainable than catching all and sundry from the sea.

There is no way of fishing in a more sustainable/careful way (I'm talking about the actual process of catching fish) on an industrial scale.

You can limit net sizes and gauge but that still won't sort the issue.

It just isn't possible, it would be like farmers being told they have to hand pick each ear of corn so that they don't accidentally thresh a ladybird - it's just not doable.

See the size of that skate they caught by accident? What a beast.
 
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What they can catch can't effectively be regulated. So the only other restrictions are the equipment they have and the time in which they can use it.

Given those restrictions, the industry will soon innovate if it wants to keep catching the highest value fish. Add on to that the limit that all fish caught count towards the quota landed, and things will improve... provided the numbers are right.

Cods stocks ARE recovering strongly - just goes to show the power of nature that it can truly overcome despite the different obstacles put in place. It also emphasises the importance of diversity.

PS - that skate could only be sold to a museum or angler - nobody would buy it.
 
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