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GAM8LE · 3 Jan 2017 at 12:48

Glanza said:
Also for the ones waiting (me included) solid orange weapon skin is apparently on sale in the base today at level 30.

Oh nice! Thanks!

@snips - yeah that was a good night but the DZ is so unpredictable at times when it comes to cheaters or multigroupers so any new mode related to PVP they should definitely add a PVE element to it as well to suit their whole playerbase

I think this gonna be gooood

EDIT: Yeah the new cheese is all over the DZ now. Easy to spot as people are running around with a shotty in their hand or a sidearm before pulsing or hitting a skill lol. But that cheese is irrelevant when multigroupers or cheaters show up.

If any new PVP mode is controlled and fair - i dont think i would go in the normal DZ ever again tbh

snips86x · 3 Jan 2017 at 12:48

Nexus18 said:
haha, given up on that now Still do a run or 2 a day if I cba though...

I don't mind the DZ/PVP but it isn't something I can take seriously in this game as there are too many glitches/bugs that give players a massive advantage i.e. the most recent trends; battle buddy and res. station giving players 4+ mill toughness and as twirly calls it, "the new cheese"; having a full striker gear set (or any gear set except d3) but with essentially alpha bridge gear 4 set bonus where you can have not just 6 but 9 talents on one gun....

I have been collecting banshee stuff for DZ lately so when we do get ganked by players using the likes of the above, it won't be so bad then

Unless you go rogue and die

Nexus18 · 3 Jan 2017 at 12:59

snips86x said:
Unless you go rogue and die

haha true although I/we hardly ever go rogue, unless you have flash in your group, then it is guaranteed you will go rogue without any notice

I do miss the days when the game was new and yellows were extremely rare so everyone was killing on sight just to get a yellow item

Mario · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:04

Last night in DZ was so bad,that i actually considering not touching DZ till they fix or get new mode in 1.6 - cheaters,who multigrouping and they health cant even go down 1 bar - that was lil bit to much to me.
As said many times - they made big mistake by promising proper anti cheat system before release and failing to keep they promise,any kid can just run aimbot now (and most do that,even streamers).Many people love DZ,but when things happening like yesterday,no wonder many lost hope and left,even PvE changes only manage to bring just small bunch of players back.
They can fix 8 talents with AB,but how they can fix multigrouping an cheating is another question.
Just sticking with PvE atm and collecting all named stuff and all good rolls.
Nearing 1600h

Glanza · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:05

Now I've got a enough Banshee stuff to not worry about dying and loosing too much apart from the odd key I'll start venturing in more once I've finally got the UG farm done and hit rank 40.

snips86x · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:07

-Gamble- said:
If any new PVP mode is controlled and fair - i dont think i would go in the normal DZ ever again tbh

How come?

Is that because you enjoy the current challenge that DZ provides or you think any new balance/fair solutions would be better?

Glanza · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:09

Rumours are the new PVP zone is purely that, team deathmatch type instead of farming mobs and getting jumped etc.

LackyT · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:16

Nexus18 said:
I do miss the days when the game was new and yellows were extremely rare so everyone was killing on sight just to get a yellow item

I remember when the SOCOM M1A was god like and the DZ would go nuts if one popped up

Glanza said:
Rumours are the new PVP zone is purely that, team deathmatch type instead of farming mobs and getting jumped etc.

I thought it looked more like Domination or King of the Hill, but I'm all for it, would be great fun doing 12vs12 or 8vs8vs8 and co-ordinating a team setup etc

GAM8LE · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:26

snips86x said:
How come?

Is that because you enjoy the current challenge that DZ provides or you think any new balance/fair solutions would be better?

The latter point. Unless they extended the DZ significantly and added more types to it or something.

The DZ has been the same since launch so its a bit stale. I hope this will add some excitement back into PVP without the gear of being unfairly ganked!

Glanza · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:28

I do miss the DZ in the original beta weekends for the pure reason everyone had the exact same gear so no cheesing could be done it was down to 'skill / luck' when you went 4 v 4 instead of the instagib it now is.

Would make for a balanced game mode again, you all get spawned with the same gear.

Tupro · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:29

only reason i go to the DZ is for dailies.. i play solo so i have no chance in the DZ when groups are running around

also, was just in the DZ for the daily and some guy shot me but didnt turn rogue.. i shot him back and suddenly im rogue? is there a certain amount of damage you have to do before it makes you rogue?

snips86x · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:29

Glanza said:
I do miss the DZ in the original beta weekends for the pure reason everyone had the exact same gear so no cheesing could be done it was down to 'skill / luck' when you went 4 v 4 instead of the instagib it now is.

Would make for a balanced game mode again, you all get spawned with the same gear.

Which is where they could introduce loadouts based on your playing style and team requirements.

Tupro said:
only reason i go to the DZ is for dailies.. i play solo so i have no chance in the DZ when groups are running around

also, was just in the DZ for the daily and some guy shot me but didnt turn rogue.. i shot him back and suddenly im rogue? is there a certain amount of damage you have to do before it makes you rogue?

I think it's 3 bullets but it's been hit and miss for me. I was trying to exit the DZ and someone shot me. He went rogue but I was able to kill him, pretty much instantly

Nexus18 · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:35

LackyT said:
I remember when the SOCOM M1A was god like and the DZ would go nuts if one popped up

Ah yes, the m1a with balanced and accurate roll (iirc) :cool:

I was lucky to get one

I seem to be very lucky for weapon drops but not gear drops

Mario · 3 Jan 2017 at 13:51

Just got another Barrets,with crap rolls

1263FA and 1257ARM - no ammo

GAM8LE · 3 Jan 2017 at 14:00

Deadly, Brutal, Capable for me - that was my m1a of choice lol

Although for deadeye I always wanted, deadly, capable, competent but never found one. I think I had deadly, unforgiving, capable which was epic anyway

agnes · 3 Jan 2017 at 14:32

Had my first proper experience in the DZ the other day, my god my heart was going! I was level 14, in the lowest of the areas. Although most are outputting the same damage as I've got pants gear... Well, I did ^_^

So, a group kept hunting me down after I tried to help them kill some NPC's... So, I stalked them for ages, then they bit off more than they could chew. So when they were weak. I struck. Killed all 4, got all the gear and headed for the extraction site, whilst waiting, I hid, some other players turned up, but left after they saw a single green on the floor that I left to try and bait people into thinking a death took place and the fight was over... They went for it!

Anyway, 30 seconds left and 2 groups turn up and battle, 2 died from one and 3 from the other, I was hoarding the look, running around, in the end, I attached 3 bags of loot!!!! The idiots were so fixated on killing each other I could get away with it.

I bagged about 16 blues and 3 clothes. Was awesome, never felt so tense in a game before.

snips86x · 3 Jan 2017 at 14:39

agnes said:
Had my first proper experience in the DZ the other day, my god my heart was going! I was level 14, in the lowest of the areas. Although most are outputting the same damage as I've got pants gear... Well, I did ^_^

So, a group kept hunting me down after I tried to help them kill some NPC's... So, I stalked them for ages, then they bit off more than they could chew. So when they were weak. I struck. Killed all 4, got all the gear and headed for the extraction site, whilst waiting, I hid, some other players turned up, but left after they saw a single green on the floor that I left to try and bait people into thinking a death took place and the fight was over... They went for it!

Anyway, 30 seconds left and 2 groups turn up and battle, 2 died from one and 3 from the other, I was hoarding the look, running around, in the end, I attached 3 bags of loot!!!! The idiots were so fixated on killing each other I could get away with it.

I bagged about 16 blues and 3 clothes. Was awesome, never felt so tense in a game before.

wow...that's awesome and a great tactic! It gives you such a rush doesn't it

agnes · 3 Jan 2017 at 15:01

snips86x said:
wow...that's awesome and a great tactic! It gives you such a rush doesn't it

Yep! I highly doubt it will happen again, but it's hooked me even more. However, after seeing that if you're on your own, you stand no chance. I need to find a full group.

Tek81 · 3 Jan 2017 at 16:40

For anyone considering running a predominantly HE build, I can highly recommend it. I was getting a bit sick of trying to loot some AB gear, so decided to mess around a bit and came up with the following. I'm glad that 1.5 has afforded us a bit more flexibility when it comes to gear, although it took me the best part of 40 hours to find high rolled versions of what I needed to make this viable.

LB Chest - +5% damage one skill cool down, +10% skill power on none, +10% armour on two (Stam)

Skulls Gloves - +16% damage (Stam)

Spec ops pack - +200% Skill power (FA)

Spec ops Mask - +10% damage for ten seconds after using a med kit (FA)

Tactical holster - +15% Armour when in cover

Fire Crest knee pads - Only using these because of the high stat rolls (12% AED included)

AED - 58% (rolled on all possible gear)

Armour - 55.1% (All mods slots stam/armour)

Primary - LW M4 20.4k / +22 AED / 900rpm (+50) / Destructive, Vicious, Responsive (I've not used any DPS inflating mods on either weapons, i.e ACC)

Secondary - LVOA-C 19.1k / +23 AED / 898rpm (+48) / Destructive, Brutal, Responsive

Base stats - 363k / 495k / 116k

Because of the nature of the talents, there is never a time at which none of them are active. It's a very solid PVE build, but also holds up extremely well in PVP, as I have been finding out. When damage rolls up to about 550k and Toughness is at 770k (without survivor link), it becomes interesting....

The +16% damage from the Skull gloves is superb and means that more points can be dedicated to Stamina. Only "downside" I've found is that I've lost 10 points of AED. But the additional damage compensates. I've also dropped 200 points of armour because of the LB chest. I've been trying to loot another one with better armour, but no luck. Another pair of Skull gloves with crit chance would also raise the stats a bit. 400k, 500k would be doable with a bit of luck. All pieces were looted either in Lexington or while killing the LZ bosses. Going to stick with this now until 1.6 is released.

ED209 · 3 Jan 2017 at 16:51

Tek, might be a build I may try.

will start to save my yellows from now on.

im quite rusty on the abreviations, would you mind just listing what they mean? like LB chest and AED, LW etc

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