104 on the motorway.

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[TW]Fox;17010646 said:
Thats cool, i'll make some kids as well.
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Will you please, this country is in need of young people.

[TW]Fox;17010646 said:
Remember, the government are responsible for easing the burden of your life choices.
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lol wut

[TW]Fox;17010646 said:
Choose to speed when you know that paying a £400 fine would be a real drain on your finances? Thats ok, we'll reduce the fine for you, and subsidise it by charging somebody else who did exactly the same crime 4 times more.

Thats way better than having people so scared of getting a huge fine that they don't speed in the first place, right?

I never, ever do 100mph+ on the Motorway. Before you think this is a holier than thou, read on.


Why?

Because if I did, I'd get hit with a massive fine that I really, really, really do not want.

I am scared of the large fine I would get, so it is something i never, ever do. It acts as a detterent to me.
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I too believe that if I think a certain way than everyone else on the planet surely must also think the exact same way as me.

I too also ignore every sociological study that shows that punishment as a deterrent for crime does not work.
 
It works for me! If there was only a small fine as a result of doing 100+ on the Motorway, I'd drive from here to Worcester next Friday night at 120mph all the way.

Fear of punishment is the reason I don't do this. There isn't really another reason.
 
[TW]Fox;17010570 said:
Not really, if you drive a £12,000 Vectra VXR with a 2.8 litre V6 Turbocharged engine then you should not be able to plead hardship!
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i never pleaded anything.

I told them how much a month i have spare from wages after mortgage and they allocate a set ammount per month for your child (they dont ask you to work that out, they have a set figure) they want to know the size of your house and your utility bills to work out if its appropriate or not.

I just filled it all in and let them decide.

Half the reason my fine was so low was because they commended me on A) turning up, B) being prepared by comming on the train and acknowledging to them directly that i appreciated the severity of my actions and had learnt my lesson and C) it was at nearly 1am on an empty motorway down a long straight hill. I'd got carried away and never intended to go that fast.

They accepted all this and fined me as appropriate.

Its nothing to do with getting off lightly because of x, y or z. Everything is considered.
 
DiamondMark said:
I believe its worked out on what you have left every week, after all outgoings.

So if Mr Lol had his mortgage etc taken out plus whatever else, maybe they take that into account.
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this

they dont even want to know how much petrol you use. They ask you how many miles you do a year (i only do about 12k or so) and they work out a petrol figure for you to stop people cheating the system.

If anything they understated my petrol bill due to not taking into consideration i was driving a 2.8 turbo.

[TW]Fox;17011604 said:
It works for me! If there was only a small fine as a result of doing 100+ on the Motorway, I'd drive from here to Worcester next Friday night at 120mph all the way.

Fear of punishment is the reason I don't do this. There isn't really another reason.
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the fine isn't the deterrent.

Its the speeding ban. I was banned for 28 days remember. 28 days of taking the bus sure as hell made me think more than handing over my card to dispense with some of my monthly surplus did. They even take credit card ffs, hows that for not making a difference to you ?

I never do above about 82 now as its just not worth it.

You'd get a much higher fine than £70 if you got off with just points. Oh and there was £30 costs on top i think so £100 in total.
 
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I know someone that did 130 on a clear sunny day on a Saturday morning and got away with a very brief telling off.
 
To be fair, the fines being discussed here aren't really very big when compared to the monstrosities you can come across in the rest of Europe.
I think anything under £500 is very reasonable for doing silly speeds!

I'm still waiting for my court summons though, the Belgian wheels of justice turn very slowly indeed..
 
It's not the fine that shafts you really, it's the increased insurance costs for the next 5 years.

I got a £250 fine for doing 100 on the motorway (+ 4 pts). It's adds around £250 to pretty much every insurance quotes I've got (and now my partner is also on my policy, it adds £400 rather than £250 - not sure how that's fair!).

Cost of fine £250
Cost of increased insurance £250 x 3 + £400 x2

£1800 total.
 
I was done a few years back (2007) doing 105mph down the M62 @ approx 2am. Was only given 6 points, £250 fine (plus an extra £50 towards some random victim fund) but received no ban at all.

Edit: admittedly, the thought of a possible ban had me cacking my pants and very rarely go much over 70mph since
 
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InvaderGIR said:
Don't write off the license so quickly. I know someone that did ~110 at 6pm after work on a nice sunny day on a dual carriageway and got 3 points and £300 fine (plus fees).
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My dad got caught a few weeks ago doing 94 in a 60 by a camera van, court case was last week and he got 3 points and a £100 fine... :eek:

His exact words were "How is this supposed to discourage me from speeding?" He was pooing himself as he assumed it was ban time or 9points and a mega fine. He didnt even turnup to court to plead his case (though he did write a letter) so you might get lucky OP
 
EdGey said:
3am? he could have let you off!
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Lots of accidents happen around this time of day, usually speed mixed with tiredness are the main cause.

The driver tends to want to get home & to bed, and speeds up given thats its 3AM & the road is quiet.

Often with a very nasty outcome.

I have seen this more times than I care to think about.

Thats why the Copper did not let him off, the same copper I guarantee you at some point has had top deal with the aftermath of such actions.
 
Christ this country is pathetic sometimes.

104 @ 3 AM on an empty motorway and they STILL did the guy. Must have been looking for someone to do.

Not sure why some people are breaking out the prams and toy sets for 104 mph. If it was 120+ then there might be an issue.

I really really detest this new wave of 100% undercover cars. Fair enough, pulling bad, dangerous, and careless drivers is fine... but the amount of times I see them hidden behind things ready to jump on anyone speeding is crazy.

We need a complete re-evaluation of whats safe now, cars have moved on since 1960, and in all honesty (believe it or not) so have most drivers.

We need to keep the UK roads moving, so I would propose variable limit that lets people travel faster at night time..

So say between 11pm and 5AM make the limit 95.

Also whats up with the holy righteous crew in this country? Its a bit of SPEEDING for gods sake!! No ones dead. Bodies are not strewn all over the road.... Jees sometimes people annoy me when they complain about speeding, making it out to be the behaviour of the anti christ or something. Hell, even drink driving ISNT that bad... yes its dangerous and pretty silly, but guess what folks, only 10% of road fatalities are down to people being drunk and only around 7% are due to speeding.

Are peoples lives so miserable that they have to complain about what others are doing all the time?

If someone flys past me at 120-130mph on the motorway I just have a wee smile to myself and think "ah least someones having fun!" Its up to him how he wants to travel and if it doesnt affect me I couldnt care less how fast people go!

I get the impression though that so many busy bodies in this country would be more than willing to be on the phone to the Police, all too eager to stick their oar in.
 
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[TW]Fox;17010594 said:
Well I'm going to and finance a brand new M3 then so I'm left with £50 a month. Then I can drive it up and down Motorways at 100mph+ picking up 10 quid fines because of what I 'have left' even though my lack of spare cash was entirely my choice as a result of spanking a load of cash on a car.
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Fine thats your choice.

I think you are being a complete moron with this silly sarcastic attitude though.

Surely you can see the reasoning? Courts want to punish the "criminal" and not the innocent family/children, nor do they want to bankcrupt someone over something as petty as a speeding offence.

Hardly any point in fining someone so much they cannot afford to eat is there?

Likewise, why should somone driving a Porsche get fined just £70 when they can afford more? Should mr LOLs children be affected because of something as ludicrously minor as travelling fractionally above some stupidly low arbitary limit on an empty road?

Some of your posts are completely ludicrous! You seem a sensible guy, but to make a point, you take it to the nth degree which instead of making your argument credible, just undermines anything you are trying to say.
 
So its ok to fine a guy in a Porsche loads but not a guy in a 12k 300bhp car?

People who can't put dinner on the table if they get a 300 quid fine don't drive 300bhp cars.
 
I completely get Fox's point. Someone who is on the breadline does not drive a relatively new performance variant of a large saloon.

They drive a 205 diesel or an old Volvo.
 
[TW]Fox;17015508 said:
People who can't put dinner on the table if they get a 300 quid fine don't drive 300bhp cars.
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I will not lie - I am not paid a lot. A £300 fine would hurt me financially, and yet I still manage to insure, maintain and run a 300BHP car with ease.

I don't see how you can make the connection between Horsepower and Finances...
 
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