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1080 Ti throttling issues
- Thread starter geordiejc
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Because benchmarking from most review sites are done within the first few minutes which in turn gives inaccurate results since the chip will never reach throttling point. Sure you can remedy this yourself as a consumer by adjusting the fan speed but you have to know about that. Those review sites show an incorrect comparison between the 1080 FE and other card since the result it gets will not be maintained for longer gaming sessions.
I fully understand that this is not an issue for many users here since its not the difficult to adjust fan speed and such but it does affect the end result cause your forced to run with a louder fan to maintain clock speeds which is not portrayed in many reviews. The cooler is ****.. now the AIB cards is what well be interesting. Im looking forward to see what they can/are allowed to do with the GP104 chip.
What part of that is a lie? All you have to do is adjust the fan curve and you can have it staying cool and overlocking to 2.0ghz.
Soldato
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Technically speaking it is not a lie. It CAN be overclocked to over 2Ghz. It just appears very difficult to get it to maintain those speeds for anything over a couple of minutes!
I actually detest the cooler on my TX and can't believe I was that lazy and didn't add a block to it (Only just sold the block fully sealed lol). The ref cooler is noisy and doesn't do a great job but if you look at that video I did earlier, I show what is what and that is within a minute of the bench running (clocking down).
I consider myself to have a little common sense though and if the throttling was affecting my gaming performance, I would either use a fan curve or would have actually put the waterblock I had on it or I could have put an AIO on it. At least the 1080 has AIB options, which sadly there was only the EVGA style AIO and one other AIO that was available for the Titan X?
SO Phixsator, from the 1080 options, if noise is an issue, go for something like the MSI/EVGA/Gigabyte custom cooler, as they are superb at noise levels and keeping the card cooler. Not much I can say really and steer clear of the FE if you want a cool quiet card.
I consider myself to have a little common sense though and if the throttling was affecting my gaming performance, I would either use a fan curve or would have actually put the waterblock I had on it or I could have put an AIO on it. At least the 1080 has AIB options, which sadly there was only the EVGA style AIO and one other AIO that was available for the Titan X?
SO Phixsator, from the 1080 options, if noise is an issue, go for something like the MSI/EVGA/Gigabyte custom cooler, as they are superb at noise levels and keeping the card cooler. Not much I can say really and steer clear of the FE if you want a cool quiet card.
The tx was my first ref cooler, got it slapped in the case switched it on and could not believe the noise.
My first thoughts was **** going to have to water cool just the card, the start of the wc addiction lol.
Only time i would consider a ref is if i was going for a sff build.
That's the thing though, most sites show benchmarks based around a few minutes of testing. I think it actually IS a newsflash to many people; and it's surfacing in relation to the 1080 release (a little unfairly) because the really high clock speeds combined with a lack of cooler options is making people examine this where many of them haven't examined it before.
Caporegime
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This thread title bothers me, can't we change it?
It's not a Ti
It's not a Ti
What I mean is I think this card needs very good cooler ( possibly water ) and better power delivery until it can comfortably sit at 2GHz + at which point it might actually be worth the high asking price
Typically the best air cards like the 980Ti Kingpin are going to be able to reach the maximum possible overclocks just as well as waterblocked card can,
this did not used to be the case years ago but it pretty much is now
The cooler design NVIDIA has used here does not do justice to the chip,
maybe thats typical for this style of cooler but I think its exacerbated in this case due to the 'heat density' that has been mentioned.
Typically the best air cards like the 980Ti Kingpin are going to be able to reach the maximum possible overclocks just as well as waterblocked card can,
this did not used to be the case years ago but it pretty much is now
The cooler design NVIDIA has used here does not do justice to the chip,
maybe thats typical for this style of cooler but I think its exacerbated in this case due to the 'heat density' that has been mentioned.
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While I agree with you on the technical side of things (most ref cards throttling) it's a bit different when it's the only version available and at a price premium because then it's a matter of the emphasis those setbacks place on the entire set of currently available cards. If it wasn't the only option and going to cost you a premium for the convenience of the throttling then I could agree it's not an issue.
It is not clear if it will be the only version available, lots of rumors that several of the AIB own boards will be available on 27th but not certain. The price increase is stupid and short sighted of Nvidia in not for seeing the feedback.
I feel most of us here have done our homework (if not bloody get on with it) and seen that the extra $100 for the FE is a bit of **** take, considering that the 8 pin is enough for this and that but not enough for any overclocking fun, the cooler does a good enough job but if it is like the TX cooler, will be fairly noisy when it is ramping up (and looks like it will need to ramp up to keep the card cool). For those uninterested in overclocking and will be watercooling and must have the card on day 1, go for it
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Agreed, some just need it day 1 if they are making a build right then so it can be situational but it's just one of those things. I'd be waiting for a none ref cooler but peoples choices are there's and hopefully they did there homework as you said.I feel most of us here have done our homework (if not bloody get on with it) and seen that the extra $100 for the FE is a bit of **** take, considering that the 8 pin is enough for this and that but not enough for any overclocking fun, the cooler does a good enough job but if it is like the TX cooler, will be fairly noisy when it is ramping up (and looks like it will need to ramp up to keep the card cool). For those uninterested in overclocking and will be watercooling and must have the card on day 1, go for it
nVidia should made the FE card with more power phases, an 1x8 pin and 1x6 pin PCIe considering that reference boards are usually the ones garantied to have a compatible water block and why put it under water if you cannot really push it due to power restrictions.
They could have done this while also demoing a non FE edition with a single 8 pin on it to demonstrate power efficiency(perhaps a cheapo model from an AIB). This way i feel the price would be more acceptable as you got more for your money and it would cost them next to nothing for the few extra components. It would not matter that the cooler is crap because it would be targeted at those who would fit their own cooling solution.
As it stand now all the 1080 FE is to me is an overpriced gimped and throttling GP104 chip that could have had much more potential released. Such a shame.
They could have done this while also demoing a non FE edition with a single 8 pin on it to demonstrate power efficiency(perhaps a cheapo model from an AIB). This way i feel the price would be more acceptable as you got more for your money and it would cost them next to nothing for the few extra components. It would not matter that the cooler is crap because it would be targeted at those who would fit their own cooling solution.
As it stand now all the 1080 FE is to me is an overpriced gimped and throttling GP104 chip that could have had much more potential released. Such a shame.
This...
You must not be pc gaming very long if that's the case
I game for several hours and sometimes even more when a few of us are playing The Division but if you meant "not into PC gaming for long"?, As soon as the Amiga died, I went over to PC gaming and my first real PC game memory was Doom.