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1080 Ti throttling issues

Gregster said:
I just did a quick vid comparing my Titan X with a custom fan curve and the same card left to its own devices. I have had this card since Mar 2015 and when I game, I don't bother overclocking and generally leave it without AB running, so it will be throttling like you see. This is what reference cards do and if I didn't like it or wasn't happy with it, I would just set a custom fan curve like I have shown.

So much fuss from people who won't be getting the card and even some of us won't be getting reference cards, so it really is much ado about nothing.
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Someone with sense- thanks for doing that :D
 
Gregster said:
I just did a quick vid comparing my Titan X with a custom fan curve and the same card left to its own devices. I have had this card since Mar 2015 and when I game, I don't bother overclocking and generally leave it without AB running, so it will be throttling like you see. This is what reference cards do and if I didn't like it or wasn't happy with it, I would just set a custom fan curve like I have shown.

So much fuss from people who won't be getting the card and even some of us won't be getting reference cards, so it really is much ado about nothing.
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Same here I love my reference cooled 780ti's and I will be choosing blower type coolers for my next GPU's I buy :)
I just set the fan speed higher if I do want cooler temps..

 
Radox-0 said:
Mine did, as in throttle to below boost and ending up near base clock with stock fan profile.

The stock fan profile on these cards, at least the Titan X is very shallow and as odd as it may sound geared towards silence. Notch up the fan profile ever so slightly and its a non-issue really.
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Yeah, I put SC BIOS on my Titan X immediately and thereafter overclocked it further mildly and as a result never really run it with stock fan profile, so was unsure if the issue happened on those cards. I did buy a block for it but never got round to fitting it before I sold the card.

I think the reference blower coolers are very good at what they are required to do - remove heat from the chip and extract it out back of case. However, to do so efficiently requires the blower fan to be run at fairly substantial RPM, or is simply doesn't shift enough air to efficiently cool the chip. It appears that keeping the cards quiet is more of a priority to Nvidia though. Obviously the fan curve can be adjusted manually.

On the subject of noise versus heat though - did anyone have an FX5800 Ultra? :D Now that thing was a noisy beast lol.
 
Gregster said:
I just did a quick vid comparing my Titan X with a custom fan curve and the same card left to its own devices. I have had this card since Mar 2015 and when I game, I don't bother overclocking and generally leave it without AB running, so it will be throttling like you see. This is what reference cards do and if I didn't like it or wasn't happy with it, I would just set a custom fan curve like I have shown.

So much fuss from people who won't be getting the card and even some of us won't be getting reference cards, so it really is much ado about nothing.

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A good vid Greg, illustrating that the issue isn't actually exclusive to 1080 (I didn't think it would be tbh) and is more a limitation of the blower style cooler and the low acoustics based stock fan profile.
 
Five.Stars said:
A good vid Greg, illustrating that the issue isn't actually exclusive to 1080 (I didn't think it would be tbh) and is more a limitation of the blower style cooler and the low acoustics based stock fan profile.
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Yer and something that has been prevalent all through ref coolers in my case. If I am benching, I set 100% fan and go for it but if I am gaming, I don't worry about it and don't watch fps either. I have gamed so much through the last 6 months and never bothered running AB or any other software to keep the temp in check and stop the card from throttling and just enjoyed the reason I bought the card (to game).

Some strange thoughts coming out now from some people and anyone who doesn't want a card to throttle, do like I have shown and set a fan curve. These are basics really.

The only issue I really see is, it is a problem for those not buying it :D
 
Gregster said:
I just did a quick vid comparing my Titan X with a custom fan curve and the same card left to its own devices. I have had this card since Mar 2015 and when I game, I don't bother overclocking and generally leave it without AB running, so it will be throttling like you see. This is what reference cards do and if I didn't like it or wasn't happy with it, I would just set a custom fan curve like I have shown.

So much fuss from people who won't be getting the card and even some of us won't be getting reference cards, so it really is much ado about nothing.

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Thanks for the vid.

But I don't understand the logic of paying through the nose for a Titan and then being happy that it's throttling all the time and losing performance, surely if you pay all that money you want the most from it? :confused:
 
Telecaster said:
Thanks for the vid.

But I don't understand the logic of paying through the nose for a Titan and then being happy that it's throttling all the time and losing performance, surely if you pay all that money you want the most from it? :confused:
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Whilst I tend to agree, you also have to factor in - is any game struggling due to the throtting issue? With Gsync for example, which Greg uses, what is the difference in real world gaming from a game dropping from say 91fps to 84fps? Would you even be able to tell without an FPS counter? That is the thing, people can become to hung up on the numbers that their overlay is showing instead of playing the game and enjoying the experience - assuming the experience is smooth.
 
It may happen with other reference coolers as well, but did you have to pay £100 extra for the privilege on those other cards?

The least they could have done for the extra cash is put a cooler on which can actually cool the card.
 
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sanaxe1 said:
It may happen with other reference coolers as well, but did you have to pay £100 extra for the privilege on those other cards?

The least they could have done for the extra cash is put a cooler on which can actually cool the card.
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It can cool the card. It has been tuned to stay very quiet however. Setting a custom profile will keep it fairly cool, but at the expense of noise. Quite substantial noise if anything like my Titan X.
 
You guys seem to be missing the point a little, its downclocking slightly even with the fan at 100%, these style of coolers tend to be extremely loud above 70%, likely over 50 decibels, so you wont want to do that typically

That means you are only going to get 1600mhz normally with the card,
as shown in the metro 4K graph, we know this card can potentially go up to 2400mhz, you are basically losing 1/3 of the performance of the card,
a card which already costs way more than it should, you might aswell just get a 980Ti instead.
 
Blimey, people now suddenly expect a turbo speed to be the actual speed (not the base) and the theoretical performance (with water cooing) becomes the expected performance and you're losing 1/3 the performance if reference cooler edition doesnt do it.......when it's no different than the Titan X behaviour it seems.

Think I have nothing more to contribute :D.

Roll on purchasing and playing and the Pascal cards going down as a fabulous range, once all the BS negativety dies down :)
 
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Ash0787 said:
You guys seem to be missing the point a little, its downclocking slightly even with the fan at 100%, these style of coolers tend to be extremely loud above 70%, likely over 50 decibels, so you wont want to do that typically

That means you are only going to get 1600mhz normally with the card,
as shown in the metro 4K graph, we know this card can potentially go up to 2400mhz, you are basically losing 1/3 of the performance of the card,
a card which already costs way more than it should, you might aswell just get a 980Ti instead.
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You aren't losing 1/3rd performance because

A) it's not a linear increase. 2400Mhz isn't much faster than 2100Mhz.
B) Nvidia have not advertised these cards as being 2400Mhz, the boost clock is advertised as 1733Mhz.
 
Ash0787 said:
You guys seem to be missing the point a little, its downclocking slightly even with the fan at 100%, these style of coolers tend to be extremely loud above 70%, likely over 50 decibels, so you wont want to do that typically

That means you are only going to get 1600mhz normally with the card,
as shown in the metro 4K graph, we know this card can potentially go up to 2400mhz, you are basically losing 1/3 of the performance of the card,
a card which already costs way more than it should, you might aswell just get a 980Ti instead.
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You are looking to the worst case scenario and posting that. What about non ref cards? What about water coolers who buy ref for adding blocks? I have shown and told you and others that it doesn't make a difference when it does downclock to actual gameplay (or I would be setting a fan curve to compensate). You are also equating clock speeds as performance speeds and even if the card was sitting at 1600 Mhz, it isn't a 1/3 of the performance lost.
 
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