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10900k or 5900x - Help!

Rom

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So I was all but set on a 5900x. I even ordered the mobo today.

But now im having second thoughts. Its purely for gaming @ 1440p, 144hz monitor.
Already have a 3080 Ultra, and an aging 6700k thats bottle necking it.

Price wise, there is nothing in it really.
A lot of people have said Ryzen. In 1080 it looks like its going to be marginally better, in some games, likely worse in others. That means nothing to me, as I wont game in 1080!

I dont think im going to be disappointed in either, but I can get a 10900 and be certain of performance, now. That said, its older tech, Intel havent innovated for a while etc. The Ryzen is more of a risk I guess, you know exactly what you are going to get with the Intel.

What would you do in my position? Both are going to be around £800 for the cpu and mobo.
 
Ryzen - PCIe 4, faster single core IPC and performance.

but you don’t need 12c for games. 8c will be more than enough and sufficient future proofing as well.

AMD’s pricing and the IPC tell me that they are very confident about their zen3. Otherwise they would be undercutting intel pricing.
 
I literally only looked at parts over the weekend. I dont follow stuff unless im looking to build. So know very little other than forums and youtube opinions.
Its quite confusing, apparently single core is more important for games? At least 1080p. Not sure about for 1440p.

Im a little worried I wont be able to get a 5900x at launch, which means waiting even longer.

I like the confidence. I think as long as its on a par with the 10900k, it seems the obvious choice.

Comments like this make me wonder though....

There is no debate.

There are AMD Fanboy Clowns on Reddit who think they can make any sort of valid justification for AMD in gaming.

People who know what they are doing are on Intel.

The 5900 will NOT beat a properly setup 10600K or 10700K or 10900K, nor be even remotely close. Neither will a 7900XYZ in 2021 or whatever trash AMD releases next year.

YOU won't be able to get a 5900 in a few weeks, because of the bots, scalpers and fanboys.

YOU won't get much higher clocks in the games you play with a 5900. 10-20% improvement, tops.

I'm going to say it one more time.

INTEL 10TH GEN
FAST (LIKE REALLY FAST) RAM
GOOD COOLER (PUSH PULL INTAKE AIO)
OVERCLOCK IT.
 
You managed to get a 3080 that’s something! If you can get 3080 then 5900x will be a walk in the park. Zen3 CPU will be more plentiful than nvidia because nvidia jumped the launch so they can have a lead on AMD Radeon as they are worried about The new Radeon so they didn’t build up any kind of inventory. also nvidia uses Samsung for their chip making. The Samsung 8nm doesn’t yield as well as the TSMC 7nm which is what the zen3 are based on and the zen2. So that has exacerbated the supply issue along with the usual human virus affecting production and supply chain no doubt.

also 3080 will lift high FPS to 1440p therefore you will see CPU limitations at that resolutions. a fast CPU is a good idea to be paired with the 3080. Thus the latest ryzen should win out.
 
Rom said:
The 5900 will NOT beat a properly setup 10600K or 10700K or 10900K, nor be even remotely close. Neither will a 7900XYZ in 2021 or whatever trash AMD releases next year.
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Sounds like a intel fanboy comments...
Having 3080 I'd go for 5900x definitely.

And if u use 1440p even 3900x would be more than sufficient for your usage. Can't think of a game that you won't be able to max out your 144hz monitor
 
Rom said:
I literally only looked at parts over the weekend. I dont follow stuff unless im looking to build. So know very little other than forums and youtube opinions.
Its quite confusing, apparently single core is more important for games? At least 1080p. Not sure about for 1440p.

Im a little worried I wont be able to get a 5900x at launch, which means waiting even longer.

I like the confidence. I think as long as its on a par with the 10900k, it seems the obvious choice.

Comments like this make me wonder though....

There is no debate.

There are AMD Fanboy Clowns on Reddit who think they can make any sort of valid justification for AMD in gaming.

People who know what they are doing are on Intel.

The 5900 will NOT beat a properly setup 10600K or 10700K or 10900K, nor be even remotely close. Neither will a 7900XYZ in 2021 or whatever trash AMD releases next year.

YOU won't be able to get a 5900 in a few weeks, because of the bots, scalpers and fanboys.

YOU won't get much higher clocks in the games you play with a 5900. 10-20% improvement, tops.

I'm going to say it one more time.

INTEL 10TH GEN
FAST (LIKE REALLY FAST) RAM
GOOD COOLER (PUSH PULL INTAKE AIO)
OVERCLOCK IT.
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i wasn't aware that an overclocked 10900k is 20% faster in games than stock, so I guess AMD still wins. If you can show me a 10900k that's not on LN2 or ice water that runs games 20% faster than stock then I might believe you
 
I’m personally after the 5900x aswell but the 10850k is really good value on the intel side, I’d say wait to see how the launch goes no point spending money based on speculation, not much longer to wait.
 
Just wait for the benchmarks and get whichever is best, if the 5900X turns out to be marginally better but goes out of stock then just get a 10900k either way your not going to lose.
 
If I'm answering now then I'm saying 5900X, but I agree with the chorus that you should wait for benchmarks to make the actual decision (this should be before launch).
 
Grim5 said:
i wasn't aware that an overclocked 10900k is 20% faster in games than stock, so I guess AMD still wins. If you can show me a 10900k that's not on LN2 or ice water that runs games 20% faster than stock then I might believe you
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Just so you know, that wasnt 'my' comment, just something I had read by someone :)


The mobo is arriving today, read on here there could be shortages due to new Ryzen etc, and fell for it :rolleyes: I can always return or sell it if I do end up going for Intel.

So this wont be another 3080 launch, with no real information before launch? Would be nice to see benchmarks the day before or something, hopefully there isnt an embargo on them.

Like I said, im sure the 5900x will be fine. Certainly an improvement over my 6700k. Just getting those little doubting thoughts.
 
Rom said:
I literally only looked at parts over the weekend. I dont follow stuff unless im looking to build. So know very little other than forums and youtube opinions.
Its quite confusing, apparently single core is more important for games? At least 1080p. Not sure about for 1440p.

Im a little worried I wont be able to get a 5900x at launch, which means waiting even longer.

I like the confidence. I think as long as its on a par with the 10900k, it seems the obvious choice.

Comments like this make me wonder though....

There is no debate.

There are AMD Fanboy Clowns on Reddit who think they can make any sort of valid justification for AMD in gaming.

People who know what they are doing are on Intel.

The 5900 will NOT beat a properly setup 10600K or 10700K or 10900K, nor be even remotely close. Neither will a 7900XYZ in 2021 or whatever trash AMD releases next year.

YOU won't be able to get a 5900 in a few weeks, because of the bots, scalpers and fanboys.

YOU won't get much higher clocks in the games you play with a 5900. 10-20% improvement, tops.

I'm going to say it one more time.

INTEL 10TH GEN
FAST (LIKE REALLY FAST) RAM
GOOD COOLER (PUSH PULL INTAKE AIO)
OVERCLOCK IT.
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Nobody outside of AMD has tested the 5000 series yet, so that is utter fanboy drivel unless benchmarks?
 
I haven't seen anything to suggest reviews before actual launch for the Ryzen chips, but I'd think everyone would prefer to know what they're actually buying before paying out.
 
Grim5 said:
i wasn't aware that an overclocked 10900k is 20% faster in games than stock, so I guess AMD still wins. If you can show me a 10900k that's not on LN2 or ice water that runs games 20% faster than stock then I might believe you
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It isn’t. To gain 20% the 10900k would have to knocking on 6ghz... good luck with that.
 
Unless you're a top eSports competitor I'd go for the 5900X. Better all around platform, cooler too with a longer life expectancy than the Intel platform. My previous Intel system was very good but equally happy with my 3700X and 5700XT :)
 
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