10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

Perfect_Chaos · 2 Sep 2020 at 21:56

Seen quite a few back and forth talk online about 10GB cutting it a bit short, others saying it's fine. Usage at 1440p is less than 4K but there is still a few games where usage goes just above 10GB.

So do we think the rumours of extra cards with 20GB will be there to pre-order with the other cards? Or are they waiting to see what AMD does?

Perfect_Chaos · 3 Sep 2020 at 00:35

For me it's probably less of a thing to be worried about, being at 1440p I just care about having enough vram but plenty of grunt to fetch 60>FPS on a high refresh screen.
But having some vram spare is obviously better than cutting it very close.

Chuk_Chuk said:
No it isn't.

A 2080ti has 11GB of RAM. The 3080 is faster therefore it can utilise extra RAM if it has it.

Recently a developer from ID software mentioned that 8GB is the minimum VRAM for upcoming games regardless of resolutions. (Could someone please post a link I can't find it now)

Think it was John Carmack who supposedly said 8GB will be the minimum going forward, anyone have the link?

Perfect_Chaos · 3 Sep 2020 at 01:42

Might be smart to see what AMD brings and see if Nvidia counter quickly with higher vram cards, if they don't do it before then.

Anyone fancy spamming Nvidia's twitter with higher vram card requests?

Perfect_Chaos · 3 Sep 2020 at 06:39

Kaapstad said:
3080

Single mid range card 10gb VRAM is plenty.

So if AMD release a similar card with more VRAM it's a waste?

Why did they put 24GB on the 3090 if it's only 10-20% or so quicker then?

Perfect_Chaos · 7 Sep 2020 at 03:02

Not a good thing when you worry about 10GB being enough for 1440p use. Not much one can do, either buy or wait for cards with more vram.

It's annoying though because I am almost certain that if stock even initially seems good I think these might sell out, more so because of the current situation..

So you buy one hoping 10GB is enough or potentially miss out for a little while.

Perfect_Chaos · 10 Sep 2020 at 05:47

Seems like AMD might have more vram but the slower speed stuff, wonder which is better of the two..

Perfect_Chaos · 11 Sep 2020 at 03:36

I wonder how many reviewers are going to test vram usage properly. Going to be Interesting. Also interested to see how much vram AMD will have on their cards

Perfect_Chaos · 11 Sep 2020 at 04:19

Grim5 said:
Reviewers have little time for day 1 reviews out, we may have to wait a bit to get the real juicy stuff like pcie4 bandwidth tests, vram tests etc

Testing vram shouldn't really add much extra time should it? Should also be a priority I would've thought but we'll have to see how many decide to focus on that.

Perfect_Chaos · 11 Sep 2020 at 12:17

Alghazanth said:
1440p@144 with maxed settings and m&kb sounds much nicer than 4k@30 with console settings and a crappy gamepad.

Yep I can afford a 4k screen but choose not to get one for gaming, frame rates will certainly not be there for those who prefer it with high refresh rates. For games like Cyberpunk high chance I'd bet on it.

Who cares if consoles get 4k when the majority of demanding stuff is likely to be 30fps, and as you stated I much prefer keyboard and mouse to a controller, sure they are good for certain games but not shooters for one which I mostly play anyway.

Perfect_Chaos · 11 Sep 2020 at 14:17

Dave2150 said:
Couple of years on 1080P/1440P sounds very boring to me. You'd be better off with one of the new consoles, at least they are 4k.

So you say this and then:

Dave2150 said:
Can't wait to play at more than 100FPS on my CX48!

Which has similar pixel density to a smaller 1440p monitor..

Plus no chance I'd bet of getting anywhere near 100FPS in Cyberpunk at 4k and similarly demanding games, but each to his own

Perfect_Chaos · 12 Sep 2020 at 14:11

opethdisciple said:
The only thing to consider is the rumours are that the new AMD cards are indeed 16GB cards.

What if they are using GDDR6 and not GDDR6x? what difference would that make? Or is the faster stuff more of a demo.. like RT was with Turing

Perfect_Chaos · 12 Sep 2020 at 16:07

opethdisciple said:
They wouldn't down grade the ram on the 3080 just to bump up the amount. You lose memory bandwidth.

I meant AMD could be using the standard GDDR6 but more of it vs Nvidia's faster GDDR6x

Perfect_Chaos · 26 Sep 2020 at 18:35

Thing is you could buy a 3080 10GB and sell it off for a 20GB version when it comes and it would likely still be hundreds cheaper doing that than going straight for the 3090

Perfect_Chaos · 27 Sep 2020 at 05:12

Some seem to be thinking the 20GB models will come as soon as AMD reveal big navi, so i guess it's possible many of us already in the queue will be able to change orders at that point if wanting to.

Perfect_Chaos · 8 Oct 2020 at 04:58

Screen of that size would be way too big for me being that close, guess it's ok for slower paced games but i enjoy my FPS too much for that.

I also see new rumours of a 20GB card, at this rate these will be revealed officially before i even get my 3080!

Oh well, Zen 3 show today!

Perfect_Chaos · 8 Oct 2020 at 06:49

Poneros said:
You get used to it within a few hours, trust me. The difference seems huge because of the side-by-side but you'll quickly use it and it will feel normal.

Too big to be that close, no chance of adjusting to that within a few hours.. weeks maybe, even then it's still far too big to be that close to it. I agree with what Richdog said. Need to see the whole screen without moving your head around ideally. I would not enjoy playing shooters like that no matter how immersive it might seem at first

Perfect_Chaos · 8 Oct 2020 at 06:57

Richdog said:
The 20GB will be launched in December, apparently https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-to-launch-in-december

Guess we'll be hearing more soon if it's true, quite a few rumours and stuff saying this now so it's seeming accurate

Perfect_Chaos · 12 Oct 2020 at 09:38

Grim5 said:
I hope RTX IO comes to games sooner rather than later, because until then Consoles have a huge advantage over PC in storage.

Yeah who wants to game at 4k when you can get really crap perf at 8k? I mean, demanding games can't even get much above 60fps (if that) even now at 4k so..

Perfect_Chaos · 2 Nov 2020 at 21:43

I am feeling like I might cancel my 3080 order, 10GB feels slightly skimpy in light of AMD's cards having 16GB, but my 1440p 165hz gsync screen has about the best motion clarity in a monitor, so I don't want to change it either..

Maybe if I do cancel I can wait and see if Nvidia release any more cards with more vram at least.

Perfect_Chaos · 3 Nov 2020 at 04:57

Things change I've changed said:
With that screen it's a no brainer, 165 frames synced to perfection @ 1440p? Also DLSS which is becoming more widely adopted now?, don't let the 10GB brigade get in your head, these are features you can make use of right now, and tbh at your resolution your should be more than fine, hand of heart I would rather have g-sync with a slower card than a faster card without it, it makes games feel like butter wouldn't melt.

Yeah but I'm wondering if i can run high frame rates anyway would it matter that much? I suppose i can just turn off gsync now and see how it runs, if i don't like it then stick with Nvidia. It's disappointing though, potentially better perf with AMD and more vram