12 to 15 year old gangs

skipper847 said:
It just happening all over world and letting the little feral gits off all time. No matter what country your in they really should lower age limit.
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Its disingenuous to post about it in a thread about UK issues and not state its from a foreign country as it implies it happened in the UK.
 
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skipper847 said:
Well a lot of things happened yesterday. Someone got robbed in town centre but managed to defend him self just came off with a few bruises. A lot of 12 to 15 year olds hanging around in town centre yesterday evening purposely kicked a football at a shop window to break it and same Groupe arguing with a mum and son. Police was called and they didnt want to know as normal. A murder not too far from us with a gun. The petty crime which is a nuisance and still a big issue for local area and people are mainly from 12 to 15 year olds but as soon as an adult teaches them a lesson these kids then be top lads and it be adult who had enough of it labeled a scum bag. I saw 15 of them on way back yesterday afternoon and crossed over each time they crossed but made sure they didnt see where i lived. Biiger crime is far thew between but as said the petty crime is still not on.

Ive not moved into next door yet as said im in the process of moving and im in my mum and dads at moment. But i will be putting up hidden CCTV for me not them. If they do anything to me and i defend my self i have proof. I live out side a park which use to be nice about 6 year ago as said it only this last year it got like this.druggies use it for pick up point too now and there been a couple of shouting matches by them as well.
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Pretty sad state of affairs that. Frankly, e-Bikes need to be banned full stop. Doesn’t seem worth the social and economic damage they cause. All retails online and otherwise stop selling them and drastically increase the impounding trucks driving around.

It’s either that or police need to start investigating this kind of petty crime, which they obviously cannot because the sheer volume is insurmountable vs the resources at hand. So just go for the source of escape instead.
 
Tram said:
It has got really bad we left a city because it was getting bad, but now it seems it is an epidemic.
We want to have children but there is noway will will have them in the UK. I grew up with some really money motivated kids and they would never do anything like this.

I walk round with a tactical pen for self defense. Anyone tries it I would go straight for the neck. As long as you do not hit him while he is on the ground you should be fine legally.

It has become Insane.
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I feel that we have looked many a time to move out of the country but just cant afford to.

I would carry too but chances are that i would be the one who gets done. I am pretty good with hand to hand and would just have to hope i can get the first hit on someone if it came to it.

but life is not what it once was.
 
skipper847 said:
If you could hit these feral 12 to 15 year olds with out any consequences these wouldnt stand a chance in real world.
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Where would you draw the line in terms of what would be an acceptable reason to hit a child and what level of force would be acceptable?

I often see comments like this on Facebook posts, but I don't think people have really thought it through, i.e. adults being allowed to hit children. It would be extremely difficult to police and vigilante justice would increase dramatically, with some parents of the children involved looking for revenge regardless of what their child had done.

Self-defence isn't illegal, so you're already covered to a certain extent if they start a physical altercation or are on your property. However, I'm not sure we should allow adults to fight children just because they've annoyed you or said something you don't like.

It would also probably end badly for most adults, as it's difficult to win a fight against groups of youths unless you know how to fight. Even then, those who are trained know that starting a physical altercation isn't a good idea, no matter how tough you think you are.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Where would you draw the line in terms of what would be an acceptable reason to hit a child and what level of force would be acceptable?

I often see comments like this on Facebook posts, but I don't think people have really thought it through, i.e. adults being allowed to hit children. It would be extremely difficult to police and vigilante justice would increase dramatically, with some parents of the children involved looking for revenge regardless of what their child had done.

Self-defence isn't illegal, so you're already covered to a certain extent if they start a physical altercation or are on your property. However, I'm not sure we should allow adults to fight children just because they've annoyed you or said something you don't like.

It would also probably end badly for most adults, as it's difficult to win a fight against groups of youths unless you know how to fight. Even then, those who are trained know that starting a physical altercation isn't a good idea, no matter how tough you think you are.
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When they intimidate you and swear and call you names and say fight me for a fiva
 
Josh said:
Good.

Places not to go:
The North
Luton
North of the Watford Gap
Watford
West Yorkshire
Wherever @Uther comes from
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Sunny Stratford upon Avon, it's very posh (if you ignore the feral youth and druggies) but we have enough tourists already really.
 
Uther said:
Sunny Stratford upon Avon, it's very posh (if you ignore the feral youth and druggies) but we have enough tourists already really.
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Ahh I feel bad now, I do actually like Stratford upon Avon and it's below the Watford Gap.

I have rescinded it
 
Fringe said:
I feel that we have looked many a time to move out of the country but just cant afford to.

I would carry too but chances are that i would be the one who gets done. I am pretty good with hand to hand and would just have to hope i can get the first hit on someone if it came to it.

but life is not what it once was.
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It is them or me, that is how I look at it. As long as you don't hit them while they are on the ground you should be fine.

I was also told make the first hit count, the others will backaway.

It is unfortunate you can't leave, the world has become smaller opportunities are just not local or national any longer, they are global.

There are a lots of professional jobs in Madrid and Barcelona that do not require you to speak Spanish.

I'll be the one dealing with all Spanish matters as I speak 2 Latin languages. She speaks languages but not Spanish.
However she is still moving.
What makes Spain unique, English is like a second national language I sometimes wonder if it t is spoken as much or more the regional language in some parts of Spain.

Even though I like bits of UK, it has became lawless and corruption at all levels and I don't have the time to waste.

I want to enjoy life not worry about going out getting attacked.

Places are still cheap in Spain, I don't think they will remain cheap for longer. It's a very good time to move, companies out there are building whole new departments a uk fin tech company needs 50 new staff just for one department.
My other half is a bit hungry to get as far to the top, I I managed to change her mind after showing a list companies building new big teams. She would rocket to the top faster than in UK as the company grows and she will be less stressed.
Lol me on the other hand, my metric ranking is not promotion ( I don't give a crap about promotion) it is more about money and life.

Sorry gone off track but do look into it, you will be surprised.

This is another area that the UK fails on, they have gone too far and these kids know they can get away with it. Iam sorry for the parents but the law needs to put them in prison not for years but for a month or two. I also think if the kids are repeat offenders after the age of 14 they should be told once they hit 18 they will be spending a 1 year at a hmp facility.

It may initially be expensive but not as expensive if the gov does nothing.
 
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