1366 X58 Xeon 5650

Kelt · 27 Feb 2017 at 12:47

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Just out of interest, who in this thread (still running these X58 xenons), is thinking of upgrading to Ryzen?

The reason I ask is I was reading an interesting article over the weekend where it was suggested that this launch could kill off X58, and I for one will be upgrading to Ryzen from my X5650

I've been holding out for some time for a reasonably priced upgrade without losing cores

Not me. My interests these days are mainly gaming and I've yet to find a multi-threaded game that even remotely pushes this chip.

Maybe in a couple of years when Ryzen has matured, but even then I would need to see serious improvements over what I've currently got.

I moved to this setup from a Q6600 that was getting CPU bound, Dying Light springs to mind. Same game with this chip? Doesn't break a sweat.

DragonQ · 27 Feb 2017 at 13:05

Kelt said:
Not me. My interests these days are mainly gaming and I've yet to find a multi-threaded game that even remotely pushes this chip.

Maybe in a couple of years when Ryzen has matured, but even then I would need to see serious improvements over what I've currently got.

I moved to this setup from a Q6600 that was getting CPU bound, Dying Light springs to mind. Same game with this chip? Doesn't break a sweat.

Yeah I haven't really encountered any situation where it feels CPU bound. That might change when I get a Vega GPU but until then there's no need to upgrade.

Goody_GTI · 27 Feb 2017 at 13:15

Kelt said:
Not me. My interests these days are mainly gaming and I've yet to find a multi-threaded game that even remotely pushes this chip.

Maybe in a couple of years when Ryzen has matured, but even then I would need to see serious improvements over what I've currently got.

I moved to this setup from a Q6600 that was getting CPU bound, Dying Light springs to mind. Same game with this chip? Doesn't break a sweat.

That's a fair point, mine performs perfectly fine in games...

But it's just that upgrade itch!!! Plus I want to go down the M.2 SSD route at some point in the near future, plus having USB3 to hand wouldn't hurt

I'm waiting for proper benchmarks, but the R5 1600x is the one I'll probably hold out for

Ryzen aside, if people do upgrade at least the benefit is we might see more reasonably priced X58 kit for sale

Kelt · 27 Feb 2017 at 14:38

A £7 PCI card gives me 4 USB 3.0 PORTS. I'd like super fast disk speed, but I don't need it.

keenan · 27 Feb 2017 at 15:32

Kelt said:
A £7 PCI card gives me 4 USB 3.0 PORTS. I'd like super fast disk speed, but I don't need it.

Same here, as everyone else I would like to upgrade to Ryzen and I probably would..

But do I need to? Not at all..

subbytna · 27 Feb 2017 at 16:37

Is this chip the 3930k without the onboard graphics?

DragonQ · 27 Feb 2017 at 16:48

subbytna said:
Is this chip the 3930k without the onboard graphics?

What chip? The i7-3930k is Sandy Bridge-E, this thread is about Westmere-EP on the X58 chipset, which is the generation before that.

hornetstinger · 27 Feb 2017 at 17:04

suppose wouldn't mind getting the fastest/higher core count CPU before no longer availble upgrade from i7 950, but getting rare/expensive for the hex cores..

minicle · 27 Feb 2017 at 20:10

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Its surprising how long lived the platform is - to think people would be using it 8 years later!!

The issue going forward is going to be OS support for the hardware. There are an increasing number of items where vendors are no longer supporting 'legacy' systems/hardware. Point in case would be the motherboards and older soundcards.

keenan · 27 Feb 2017 at 22:05

Stu said:
Would you be kind enough to post all relevant BIOS settings to help others?

Here's the bios settings I use for 4.4 Ghz with all 6 memory slots in use..

subbytna · 27 Feb 2017 at 22:19

DragonQ said:
What chip? The i7-3930k is Sandy Bridge-E, this thread is about Westmere-EP on the X58 chipset, which is the generation before that.

Ah right ok. Ta. I thought there was a xeon thread which was the same as a sandy E, thought it was this.

Stu · 1 Mar 2017 at 14:31

@keenan Thanks for the screen shots.

I've also been looking at the Ryzen platform and thinking it would be a good next step, but as others have said, I still don't feel I've hit the limit of my current system. The x58 pairs nicely with my GTX 1070 and my current monitor at 2048 x 1152 resolution, a cheap PCI card gives USB3 (though I haven't even bothered yet), and there is no perceivable speed difference between SATA2 and SATA3.

If I was going to Ryzen, it would probably be the 1700x, though I want to see reviews first, and I don't feel the need to jump in immediately before the mid-range Ryzen chips are available for consideration.

Stu · 1 Mar 2017 at 14:33

hornetstinger said:
suppose wouldn't mind getting the fastest/higher core count CPU before no longer availble upgrade from i7 950, but getting rare/expensive for the hex cores..

Which hex cores are you talking about? x58 Xeon chips are still going for £50-60, and there's normally always one for sale if you look in the right place.

hornetstinger · 1 Mar 2017 at 14:42

Core™ i7-990X, Xeon X5570, Xeon W3690?

hornetstinger · 1 Mar 2017 at 14:56

hmm could do with some help lots of different CPU's. Most are quads so can't see point of changing from i7 950.
Which are fastest/highest core count? (and not stupidly expensive)

http://uk.gigabyte.com/Support/CPU-...41&Socket=Intel Socket 1366&Chipest=Intel X58

koooowweeee · 1 Mar 2017 at 16:03

Just get a 5650,5660 or a 5670. The 990x is way over priced

keenan · 1 Mar 2017 at 16:05

hornetstinger said:
hmm could do with some help lots of different CPU's. Most are quads so can't see point of changing from i7 950.
Which are fastest/highest core count? (and not stupidly expensive)

http://uk.gigabyte.com/Support/CPU-Support/Chipest?Value=1&SocketValue=341&Socket=Intel Socket 1366&Chipest=Intel X58

X5650 is definitely what you are after!

hornetstinger · 1 Mar 2017 at 16:08

I thought X5670 would be a better choice, not dropping down in speed per core, keeping it close to 3ghz and six cores

keenan · 1 Mar 2017 at 16:16

hornetstinger said:
I thought X5670 would be a better choice, not dropping down in speed per core, keeping it close to 3ghz and six cores

No overclocking?

Stu · 1 Mar 2017 at 16:40

hornetstinger said:
I thought X5670 would be a better choice, not dropping down in speed per core, keeping it close to 3ghz and six cores

To simplify further, get a Xeon X56x0 processor... replace the small x with 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9, depending on how much money you want to spend. Personally, I wouldn't spend more that £60. (There is also the x5675 and x5679, but they don't often appear for sale).