1366 X58 Xeon 5650

Jonners · 11 Jul 2017 at 21:03

Sadly my X58 adventure did not last very long

I loved it while it lasted, but suppose it was not meant to be.

With all 6 DIMM Slots occupied, only 6gb of the 12gb was being recognised on post. I tried a couple of my own DIMMS, but again only 4 of 8gb over 2 slots was being recognised.

Back to my Pentium Anniversary, oh the agony!

hornetstinger · 11 Jul 2017 at 21:06

Jonners said:
Sadly my X58 adventure did not last very long I loved it while it lasted, but suppose it was not meant to be.

With all 6 DIMM Slots occupied, only 6gb of the 12gb was being recognised on post. I tried a couple of my own DIMMS, but again only 4 of 8gb over 2 slots was being recognised.

Back to my Pentium Anniversary, oh the agony!

I'm using three x 8GB modules, to get 24GB. Best to stick to three modules IMO. Luckily I've got another DDR3 machine to use the RAM from my X58, got all six slots used but bit costly to sell them all just to re-buy RAM, going from 8GB to 8GB/16GB

Jonners · 11 Jul 2017 at 21:09

I don't think tri channel was working in the end, something went seriously awry, looks like I may just go down the Ryzen route eventually.

Ste · 11 Jul 2017 at 22:44

Socket issues most commonly bent pins tend to screw the memory side up.

I went x5670 @ 4.5 to ryzen 1700 at 3.9. I had a 1080 and the difference is phenomenal. Had no idea how limited I was in some games.

Planet coaster uses 16 threads, was at medium settings before struggling to get a good experience and now max out with no issues until the parks get huge.

benjii · 11 Jul 2017 at 23:32

Jonners said:
Sadly my X58 adventure did not last very long I loved it while it lasted, but suppose it was not meant to be.

With all 6 DIMM Slots occupied, only 6gb of the 12gb was being recognised on post. I tried a couple of my own DIMMS, but again only 4 of 8gb over 2 slots was being recognised.

Back to my Pentium Anniversary, oh the agony!

I had a similar problem after buying an additional 6GB (3x2GB) on the MM to add to the existing 6GB (3x2GB), different brands. On the i7 920 that it first went into, I had to try a number of different configurations just to get all 12GB to show up. Beyond that, they'd no longer pass a memtest at 1600Mhz, despite each stick passing solo, I ended up downclocking to 1200Mhz to get it stable. Upon switching to a Xeon 5670, I also bought on the MM, all 6 sticks worked at 1600Mhz and all is well.

I guess my point is, try multiple configurations as X58 is pretty funky.

Jonners · 12 Jul 2017 at 11:30

It's strange how it worked for a couple of days, over all 6 slots (6x2gb) then everything just went wrong.

Sadly I had to return the bundle, but this was well handled by the seller which I'm thankful for

DragonQ · 12 Jul 2017 at 11:45

Using 6 slots places more stress on the IMC (which let's not forget was Intel's first stab at it, IIRC) and since overclocking is done via BCLK the IMC is stressed further. It's well known that overclocking is easier when only using 2-3 sticks.

Jonners · 13 Jul 2017 at 08:12

Learned something new there. Perhaps too old a configuration for me to go back to. Just need to figure out what I really want next...

Thanks for the advice DragonQ

hornetstinger · 13 Jul 2017 at 08:28

benjii said:
I had a similar problem after buying an additional 6GB (3x2GB) on the MM to add to the existing 6GB (3x2GB), different brands. On the i7 920 that it first went into, I had to try a number of different configurations just to get all 12GB to show up. Beyond that, they'd no longer pass a memtest at 1600Mhz, despite each stick passing solo, I ended up downclocking to 1200Mhz to get it stable. Upon switching to a Xeon 5670, I also bought on the MM, all 6 sticks worked at 1600Mhz and all is well.

I guess my point is, try multiple configurations as X58 is pretty funky.

No problems running 3 x 8GB at 1600mhz.

Selekt0r · 13 Jul 2017 at 09:26

DragonQ said:
Using 6 slots places more stress on the IMC (which let's not forget was Intel's first stab at it, IIRC) and since overclocking is done via BCLK the IMC is stressed further. It's well known that overclocking is easier when only using 2-3 sticks.

True is may be easier, but there are many running stable overclocked configurations with 6 sticks of RAM. Mine is currently at 4Ghz (not bothered pushing any higher) with 24GB RAM (6x4GB @ 1600Mhz) on an EX58-UD5.

DragonQ · 13 Jul 2017 at 10:50

Is that a Westmere-EP chip though? Those can handle 4 GHz so easily that doesn't surprise me. A Bloomfield chip running at 4 GHz with 6 sticks is more impressive though.

Selekt0r · 13 Jul 2017 at 11:29

DragonQ said:
Is that a Westmere-EP chip though? Those can handle 4 GHz so easily that doesn't surprise me. A Bloomfield chip running at 4 GHz with 6 sticks is more impressive though.

Yes - an X5650, so Westmere-EP. Thought that was what you were having difficulties with (and the topic for this thread...)? :confused:

DragonQ · 13 Jul 2017 at 13:17

Selekt0r said:
Yes - an X5650, so Westmere-EP. Thought that was what you were having difficulties with (and the topic for this thread...)?

Me? Nah I hit 4 GHz as soon as I got my chip. I was talking to Jonners since he was having troubles.

My motherboard doesn't like going beyond ~4.4 GHz though and doesn't let me pick any multiplier between 20x and 22x, and also doesn't let me disable the 23x turbo unless I turn off almost all C-states....so I leave it at 190x22 so it runs at 4.18-4.37 GHz depending on the number of cores loaded.

[Darkend]Viper · 17 Jul 2017 at 08:53

Well i've just got a X5670 to replace my i7 930 purely as it was cheap. Currently running 6x2gb ram and have no problems after I upgraded my PSU. Before it would only register half the memory, upgraded psu and have all memory working. Once I put the new chip in going to try it with 6x4gb ecc ram to see if it all works, and then i'll see what I can push it to. Even if I need to drop to 3 sticks it should be a bit quicker than what i've got at the moment.

wam7 · 17 Jul 2017 at 15:02

[Darkend]Viper said:
Well i've just got a X5670 to replace my i7 930 purely as it was cheap. Currently running 6x2gb ram and have no problems after I upgraded my PSU. Before it would only register half the memory, upgraded psu and have all memory working. Once I put the new chip in going to try it with 6x4gb ecc ram to see if it all works, and then i'll see what I can push it to. Even if I need to drop to 3 sticks it should be a bit quicker than what i've got at the moment.

Yes, this highlights what many people overlook; the quality of the PSU can affect your systems in more ways than originally perceived.

Hagar · 19 Jul 2017 at 11:59

Hi,

Just been having an office clearout and have got 12 x 1GB DDR2 EEC 667MHz and 4 x 2GB similar due to upgrades of HP machines over the years. I'm not looking for offers here of course, but are they still saleable? Maybe the capacity lets them down?

Kryja · 20 Jul 2017 at 16:25

Running 3x8gb trouble free on my x5675.

AiiR · 20 Jul 2017 at 21:48

Running one in the spare rig 4.4GHz with 3x4 and 1x2, no issues at all.

These chips can be had super cheap now, picked mine up on the bay for £25 delivered. Mental!

Kryja · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:23

Didn't realise they were so cheap now :eek:

I paid over a hundred for my 5675 a year or two ago and thought that was a bargain. Now the question is which to get for my spare R2E.

5650 £25
5660 £34
5670 £46
5680 £60

Will these all be safe running with a stock 920 HSF? I've only ever run on custom water so air cooling is uncharted territory for me.

Kelt · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:27

My guess is if you don't overclock* then they'd be fine.

Any OC and I'd recommend a high end air cooler or a 240 AIO.

My X5650 @ 4.4 runs super cool with the £60 AIO in my sig.

*That being said, between RMA'ing a Triton and getting the Seidon, I ran the X5650 at a reduced OC of 4Ghz with a Xigmatek 90mm Loki air cooler, and it coped but got noisy when it got hot.