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yes NDA why would you break that for all future stuff ?

its great having a scoup but then you out of the loop and could be sued.even so quite impressed nothings leaked yet.

normally most computer related tech has by now.
 
I suspect that none of these tech leaks are accidental. Why risk being sued if you signed an NDA and if you're sufficiently in the loop to get to see an NDA why risk losing all future access?

It's deliberate and planned PR to fill up the hype train and works every time!

I'll just add everyone plays the same game.
 
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8 pack chips are here, at 5.1/5.2 :p

My god they are at a premium though.

I don't think I'd buy one anyway to be honest. '8 Pack stable' means not locking up under realistic use and might survive a stress test for 5 minutes but stress tests dont matter honest. :p
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This guy!!

Some of the highest end companys in the world are using 8Pack OC systems so really........... can u tell me what you acheived in Overclocking?? show me your credentials?????

and finally I maintain that stable is stable to run what you need the PC to do and the best way to test is to use your PC.

But testing on 8Pack bundles is non avx prime with 3d also running, Real bench with full memory utilisation, XTU both CPU and memory stress with 3D running, Terregen renderring looped and Cinebench R15 looped one hour each as a bare minimum. Fine for all gaming and everyday use. As far as 8Pack xtreme bundles went last gen skylake and broadwell E RMA rate was 0% and we sold at least two per week Skylake and BWE for the life of the product. So less than individual component RMA so maybe the settings are fine and stable?????
 
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But testing on 8Pack bundles is non avx prime with 3d also running, Real bench with full memory utilisation, XTU both CPU and memory stress with 3D running, Terregen renderring looped and Cinebench R15 looped one hour each as a bare minimum. Fine for all gaming and everyday use.
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What do you mean by 3D also running? Something like unigine heaven/valley running in the background?

Can you explain how you test with Terragen?
 
Yes 3D application Running full screen like Heaven or Valley maxed out. Its to make sure all areas of the CPU are stressed at once. So Core, Cache, IMC and PCI EX lanes all maxed out.

Terregen Benchmark 51 etc we have an auto test prog written in house to run for a duration of time and then show results. Also we can QC the efficency from these scores.
 
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8 Pack said:
Testing on 8Pack bundles is on avx prime with 3d also running, Real bench with full memory utilisation, XTU both CPU and memory stress with 3D running, Terregen renderring looped and Cinebench R15 looped one hour each as a bare minimum.
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... Is what you could have said, without all the usual... :p

Fair enough then, I stand corrected. I was just going from what you have said on the subject of overclocking in the past, since nothing to the contrary has been mentioned thus far. :)
 
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Overclocking 24-7 and Xtreme are massively different.

I could not just send out unstable stuff to customers paying for a 24-7 product without fully testing with a variety of tasks and applications.
 
If they were sending out systems that were on the edge it would be 5.5-5.7ghz bundles. I've seen someone get into Windows at 5.7ghz under water on 1.55v with a delided chip.
 
I can do 5.4+ on a couple of CPU (before delid) at low volts (1.35v) 2K plus and these CPU are yours ;)

We have a plan for a very high OC system 24-7 the testing of this concept starts on my arrival back from CES. Jumper you would approve ;)
 
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8-Packs methods are the right methods, even Intel agree with this. A lot of users are stuck in the past with Prime, continually hammering the CPU till it falls over. These CPU aren't built to withstand that amount of torture with the voltages us guys are using.
 
To be fair a lot of users have come from the past as we have had no reason to upgrade. I came from sandy to haswell-e. I am still trying to find a stess test I am happy with. XTU was too easy and I was crashing in games (losing my progress at the same time), P95 and OCCT are absurd, and realbench doesn't always want to run with full memory and occasionally crashes at stock.

There are some x264 and x265 encoder apps that I will try.
 
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To be fair a lot of users have come from the past as we have had no reason to upgrade. I came from sandy to haswell-e. I am still trying to find a stess test I am happy with. XTU was too easy and I was crashing in games (losing my progress at the same time), P95 and OCCT are absurd, and realbench doesn't always want to run with full memory and occasionally crashes at stock.

There are some x264 and x265 encoder apps that I will try.
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The 265x 4K benchmark at HWBOT gets you quite close on these recent platforms. From my testing roughly on par with Realbench. The overkill test running multiple instances especially.
 
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