2005 French Grand Prix

Dutch Guy · 1 Jul 2005 at 15:30

Williams disappointing once again

@Flibster, Posted your archiving request in the SE

Flibster · 1 Jul 2005 at 15:38

Dutch Guy said:
Williams disappointing once again

@Flibster, Posted your archiving request in the SE

They're usually much better in the race - however their qualifying is generally getting worse...

Ta muchly.

Simon/~Flibster

Freefaller · 1 Jul 2005 at 17:16

Flibster said:
Oh..and if a passing don reads this...

Could you move these threads to the archive please with the rest of the 2005 GP ones.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17418826 - European GP.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17425747 - Canadian GP.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17428734 - US GP.

Ta.

Simon/~Flibster

Done

Flibster · 1 Jul 2005 at 17:18

Freefaller said:
Done

Cheers mate.

Should be good having a whole years archived.

Wonder if it would be possible to get a sub forum off the archive purely for the GP threads...or is that a bit greedy.

Simon/~Flibster

Freefaller · 1 Jul 2005 at 17:23

I doubt it to be honest, but if you label all your threads (or get me to change the ones you want) with Grand Prix (with the year and name of it of course) for example then it makes searching them very easy. I think you've pretty much done that on all of them anyway

Flibster · 1 Jul 2005 at 18:26

Think there's only this years in there at the moment anyway.

I'm pretty sure last years just dropped off the forum.

Simon/~Flibster

Emlyn_Dewar · 1 Jul 2005 at 18:48

I'm feeling good for a Montoya victory this Sunday, so that means something terrible will happen.
Any ideas how his race will be spoiled?
I reckon he'll be black flagged 2 laps from the end for his car being slightly too dirty or he'll get a drive through penalty fro running too wide into one of the corners...

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 00:13

I wonder how the FIA like being the only ones out there on that limb...

Bernie has jumped to the support of the teams for what they did in Indy...

www.pitpass.com said:
In an unscheduled press conference at Magny Cours, F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone admitted that, on reflection, the teams were right not to race at Indianapolis.

"I'm pleased in a lot of ways," said Ecclestone, when asked how he felt about the fact that seven teams opted to withdraw from the event, on safety grounds. "Maybe those tyres wouldn't have lasted with a chicane or even two chicanes," he added, referring to the only option that (tyre supplier) Michelin believed was available.

"Maybe the tyres were just not up to it.," he added. "I think we could easily have lost somebody there so maybe we got lucky.

Also present was McLaren boss, Ron Dennis, who acted as spokesman for the teams: "Every effort was made by the teams to find a solution as it was by Bernie," said Dennis. "However, the simple fact is that the teams put safety before any commercial consideration and that was a point that was obviously clearly appreciated by the drivers.

"At the point at which we were faced with a decision and were trying to find solutions, the option of racing did not exist," he admitted.

"In the end, and with hindsight even more so, the bottom line was there were no options," added Ecclestone.

Of the compensation package offered by Michelin earlier this week, which will see fans' ticket money refunded and 20,000 tickets given away for next year's event - if it happens - Ecclestone said: "I thought they were going to do better. We'll try and see if they can sharpen their pencils.

"They have stood up like men and said we made a mistake and we're prepared to pay for it," he continued. "But really there weren't any options. If there were, we'd have taken them."

Asked if any good would come of the Indianapolis idiocy, Ecclestone replied: "You have to look for the good in everything, even in the bad you look for the good.

"There's nothing really positive except the fact that we've probably all learnt a lot of lessons," he added. "And we're well known in America now.

"I think if we do our job right, help promote the race and Michelin get behind us, which I'm sure they will, we will see it much bigger."

Feeling a little lonely Max? Now you ikkle bottom buddy has left you...

Simon/~Flibster

Type_R · 2 Jul 2005 at 10:57

Any practice times coming?

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 11:10

Now working on them.

Got 'distracted' by the other half this morning.

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 11:18

Saturday Free Practice 1.

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:23.939		
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:24.922		
3	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:26.483		
4	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:27.019		
5	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		1:27.276		
6	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:27.313		
7	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		1:27.510		
8	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	1:30.166	
9	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:31.872	
10	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota				
11	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes				
12	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota				
13	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda				
14	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota				
15	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota				
16	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas				
17	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas				
18	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing				
19	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari				
20	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari

Sector Times - Free Practice 3

Code:

[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	26.005 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		26.324 
3	7	Mark Webber		26.872 
4	3	Jenson Button		26.875 
5	14	David Coulthard		26.978 
6	9	Kimi Räikkönen		27.070 
7	8	Nick Heidfeld		27.279 
8	21	Christijan Albers	27.928 
9	20	Patrick Friesacher	28.618 
10	16	Jarno Trulli		28.875 
11	17	Ralf Schumacher		221.057 
12	19	Narain Karthikeyan	1911.502

Code:

[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		29.431 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	29.861 
3	9	Kimi Räikkönen		30.482 
4	3	Jenson Button		30.719 
5	14	David Coulthard		30.725 
6	21	Christijan Albers	30.919 
7	7	Mark Webber		30.998 
8	8	Nick Heidfeld		31.008 
9	20	Patrick Friesacher	31.200 
10	19	Narain Karthikeyan	31.542 
11	16	Jarno Trulli		32.121 
12	4	Takuma Sato		32.882 
13	12	Felipe Massa		32.933 
14	15	Christian Klien		32.933 
15	17	Ralf Schumacher		33.899 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	35.402 
17	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	37.959 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		41.574

Code:

[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		28.184 
2	14	David Coulthard		28.921 
3	9	Kimi Räikkönen		28.931 
4	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	29.056 
5	8	Nick Heidfeld		29.223 
6	7	Mark Webber		29.443 
7	3	Jenson Button		29.470 
8	21	Christijan Albers	29.848 
9	20	Patrick Friesacher	30.079 
10	16	Jarno Trulli		31.200 
11	15	Christian Klien		32.505 
12	12	Felipe Massa		32.702 
13	4	Takuma Sato		33.486 
14	19	Narain Karthikeyan	33.537 
15	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	34.079 
16	17	Ralf Schumacher		34.759 
17	11	Jacques Villeneuve	36.462 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		40.226

Speed Trap

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		9:23:28		307.4 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	9:20:46		305.5 
3	9	Kimi Räikkönen		9:22:52		305.1 
4	14	David Coulthard		9:32:40		304.0 
5	3	Jenson Button		9:26:13		302.6 
6	16	Jarno Trulli		9:08:59		301.1 
7	7	Mark Webber		9:24:49		300.4 
8	8	Nick Heidfeld		9:28:07		298.8 
9	19	Narain Karthikeyan	9:41:28		295.4 
10	21	Christijan Albers	9:45:42		294.8 
11	20	Patrick Friesacher	9:45:08		291.8 
12	15	Christian Klien		9:33:26		287.3 
13	4	Takuma Sato		9:07:11		274.6 
14	12	Felipe Massa		9:13:03		263.0 
15	11	Jacques Villeneuve	9:28:22		252.1 
16	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	9:04:30		247.1 
17	17	Ralf Schumacher		9:07:28		229.9 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		9:06:49		197.6

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 11:19

Saturday Free Practice 2.

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:14.466		
2	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:14.603		
3	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:14.649		
4	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:14.792		
5	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:14.979		
6	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:15.177		
7	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:15.218		
8	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:15.223	
9	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		1:15.228		
10	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:15.249		
11	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:15.305		
12	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:16.080		
13	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:16.095		
14	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:16.125		
15	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		1:16.372		
16	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:16.454		
17	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:17.846	
18	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	1:17.929	
19	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:18.195		
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:18.310

Sector Times - Free Practice 4

Code:

[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		24.193 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	24.226 
3	5	Fernando Alonso		24.230 
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		24.284 
5	16	Jarno Trulli		24.337 
6	4	Takuma Sato		24.360 
7	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	24.394 
8	3	Jenson Button		24.413 
9	2	Rubens Barrichello	24.437 
10	14	David Coulthard		24.442 
11	1	Michael Schumacher	24.503 
12	15	Christian Klien		24.549 
13	12	Felipe Massa		24.593 
14	8	Nick Heidfeld		24.685 
15	7	Mark Webber		24.716 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	24.758 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	25.165 
18	21	Christijan Albers	25.196 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	25.263 
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		25.488

Code:

[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	16	Jarno Trulli		26.079 
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		26.100 
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	26.113 
4	17	Ralf Schumacher		26.177 
5	1	Michael Schumacher	26.229 
6	5	Fernando Alonso		26.238 
7	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	26.301 
8	2	Rubens Barrichello	26.324 
9	3	Jenson Button		26.349 
10	4	Takuma Sato		26.368 
11	14	David Coulthard		26.368 
12	11	Jacques Villeneuve	26.563 
13	7	Mark Webber		26.568 
14	8	Nick Heidfeld		26.725 
15	15	Christian Klien		26.753 
16	12	Felipe Massa		26.861 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	27.149 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		27.158 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	27.179 
20	21	Christijan Albers	27.260

Code:

[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	24.127 
2	17	Ralf Schumacher		24.233 
3	1	Michael Schumacher	24.247 
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		24.265 
5	5	Fernando Alonso		24.324 
6	4	Takuma Sato		24.449 
7	2	Rubens Barrichello	24.457 
8	3	Jenson Button		24.466 
9	14	David Coulthard		24.495 
10	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	24.528 
11	15	Christian Klien		24.623 
12	16	Jarno Trulli		24.708 
13	7	Mark Webber		24.796 
14	11	Jacques Villeneuve	24.804 
15	12	Felipe Massa		24.922 
16	8	Nick Heidfeld		24.962 
17	21	Christijan Albers	25.236 
18	20	Patrick Friesacher	25.461 
19	19	Narain Karthikeyan	25.538 
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		25.585

Speed Trap

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		10:56:21	315.2 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		10:58:55	315.0 
3	9	Kimi Räikkönen		10:56:09	314.2 
4	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	10:56:43	313.8 
5	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	10:59:49	313.4 
6	14	David Coulthard		10:57:46	311.4 
7	12	Felipe Massa		10:58:02	310.9 
8	1	Michael Schumacher	10:58:09	310.5 
9	16	Jarno Trulli		10:59:28	310.4 
10	2	Rubens Barrichello	10:54:13	309.9 
11	15	Christian Klien		10:45:41	309.4 
12	4	Takuma Sato		10:57:33	309.1 
13	3	Jenson Button		10:57:39	308.3 
14	19	Narain Karthikeyan	10:39:39	308.1 
15	21	Christijan Albers	10:56:00	307.9 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	10:57:23	307.7 
17	7	Mark Webber		10:44:08	306.9 
18	20	Patrick Friesacher	10:55:40	306.2 
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		10:44:24	305.4 
20	8	Nick Heidfeld		11:00:54	304.3

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 11:25

Top 11 drivers covered by 0.8s :eek:

Raikkonen's looking good even though he'll have to lose 10 places.

Once again - Montoya is losing it...

Both the Minardi's are above the Jordans.

Williams are slowly sliding backwards...

Red Bull - they're very odd - the car suits some circuits and not others. They are very lucky though.

Oh well - Qualifying show starts in 5 on ITV - Qualifying starts at 12...

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 11:31

Qualifying show has just started on ITV 1

rpstewart · 2 Jul 2005 at 11:37

How come Kimi's dropping 10? Engine failure in practice?

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 11:39

Yup.

Engine blew in Practice 2 iirc...

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 11:53

Oh yeah - keep an eye out for the new paint scheme on the Renaults - they're supporting the Paris 2012 olympic bid.

Looks really good tbh.

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 11:56

Is anyone understanding Pierre Dupasquier at all?

... and BOING!!....

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 12:01

Running order for Qualifying:

Code:

1.	R.Schumacher	Toyota
2.	Coulthard	Red Bull Racing
3.	Heidfeld	Williams
4.	Klien		Red Bull Racing
5.	Villeneuve	Sauber
6.	Montoya		McLaren
7.	Massa		Sauber
8.	Webber		Williams
9.	Sato		BAR
10.	Alonso		Renault
11.	Fisichella	Renault
12.	Button		BAR
13.	Raikkonen	McLaren
14.	Trulli		Toyota
15.	Friesacher	Minardi
16.	Albers		Minardi
17.	Karthikeyan	Jordan
18.	Monteiro	Jordan
19.	Barrichello	Ferrari
20.	M.Schumacher	Farrari

Flibster · 2 Jul 2005 at 12:01

Ralf Schumacher on track doing his warm up lap in the Toyota