2005 Japanese Grand Prix

No live qualifying and we only get it a midnight. And it wasnt even on ITV2 or 3.

More complaint letters needed. They did work with the adverts.
 
Sorry guys - am feeling very, very crap at the moment.

Did watch the live timing but didn't have the energy to do anything else.

Will get all the times up and hidden in a mo and will do my report on the qualifying when it's actually shown live.

Now...where's I put those asprin and lemsip and stuff... :(

Simon/~Flibster
 
Flibster said:
Sorry guys - am feeling very, very crap at the moment.

Did watch the live timing but didn't have the energy to do anything else.

Will get all the times up and hidden in a mo and will do my report on the qualifying when it's actually shown live.

Now...where's I put those asprin and lemsip and stuff... :(

Simon/~Flibster
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Hope you feel better soon Flib
 
timbob said:
Looks like we missed a blinder of a qualifying session - thanks ITV :mad:
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Yup. It's a shame they couldn't even show a re-run at like 9 or 10am this morning.. who on earth would want to watch the re-run at 12-1am and then stay up to watch the race at 5am?!
 
Duke said:
Yup. It's a shame they couldn't even show a re-run at like 9 or 10am this morning.. who on earth would want to watch the re-run at 12-1am and then stay up to watch the race at 5am?!
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Exactly.

From the live timing it seemed to be an awesome qualy session!
 
Saturday Free Practice 1.
Code: 
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:46.543		
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:48.729		
3	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:49.097		
4	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:49.484		
5	8	Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:50.537		
6	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:50.811		
7	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:50.846		
8	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		1:51.884		
9	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:52.023		
10	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:52.700		
11	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:53.346		
12	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:53.454		
13	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:54.348		
14	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota				
15	20	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth				
16	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota				
17	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas				
18	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas				
19	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault				
20	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault

Sector Times - Free Practice 3

Code: 
[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	1	Michael Schumacher	37.455 
2	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	38.361 
3	9	Kimi Räikkönen		38.545 
4	7	Mark Webber		38.721 
5	2	Rubens Barrichello	39.309 
6	18	Tiago Monteiro		39.534 
7	8	Antonio Pizzonia	39.561 
8	19	Narain Karthikeyan	39.631 
9	14	David Coulthard		39.908 
10	3	Jenson Button		39.967 
11	21	Christijan Albers	40.183 
12	20	Robert Doornbos		40.392 
13	15	Christian Klien		40.463 
14	4	Takuma Sato		40.726 
15	16	Jarno Trulli		42.141

Code: 
[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	1	Michael Schumacher	47.406 
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		47.775 
3	8	Antonio Pizzonia	48.004 
4	7	Mark Webber		48.137 
5	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	48.351 
6	19	Narain Karthikeyan	48.508 
7	2	Rubens Barrichello	48.786 
8	3	Jenson Button		49.142 
9	21	Christijan Albers	49.205 
10	18	Tiago Monteiro		49.574 
11	4	Takuma Sato		49.798 
12	16	Jarno Trulli		50.040 
13	14	David Coulthard		50.068 
14	15	Christian Klien		50.243 
15	20	Robert Doornbos		50.599 
16	12	Felipe Massa		53.846 
17	11	Jacques Villeneuve	59.025 
18	17	Ralf Schumacher		61.167

Code: 
[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	1	Michael Schumacher	21.682 
2	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	22.385 
3	9	Kimi Räikkönen		22.409 
4	19	Narain Karthikeyan	22.603 
5	8	Antonio Pizzonia	22.619 
6	7	Mark Webber		22.626 
7	2	Rubens Barrichello	22.751 
8	3	Jenson Button		22.775 
9	18	Tiago Monteiro		22.849 
10	4	Takuma Sato		22.930 
11	14	David Coulthard		23.245 
12	15	Christian Klien		23.274 
13	21	Christijan Albers	23.312 
14	20	Robert Doornbos		23.663 
15	16	Jarno Trulli		26.910 
16	12	Felipe Massa		33.510 
17	17	Ralf Schumacher		35.574 
18	11	Jacques Villeneuve	36.321

Speed Trap

Code: 
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	1	Michael Schumacher	9:12:27		264.4 
2	19	Narain Karthikeyan	9:44:44		255.2 
3	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	9:41:24		251.6 
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		9:42:21		251.3 
5	3	Jenson Button		9:45:48		250.1 
6	4	Takuma Sato		9:45:43		248.9 
7	7	Mark Webber		9:43:30		245.1 
8	18	Tiago Monteiro		9:45:33		244.8 
9	14	David Coulthard		9:44:35		244.3 
10	8	Antonio Pizzonia	9:43:24		242.9 
11	15	Christian Klien		9:41:18		242.2 
12	2	Rubens Barrichello	9:44:50		237.6 
13	21	Christijan Albers	9:36:11		233.7 
14	20	Robert Doornbos		9:43:06		225.0 
15	12	Felipe Massa		9:28:06		203.7 
16	16	Jarno Trulli		9:09:37		201.3 
17	11	Jacques Villeneuve	9:34:06		188.4 
18	17	Ralf Schumacher		9:03:56		179.9
 
Saturday Free Practice 2.
Code: 
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:50.136		
2	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:50.150		
3	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:50.369		
4	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		1:50.920		
5	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:50.994		
6	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:51.223		
7	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:51.274		
8	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:51.503		
9	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:51.710		
10	20	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth	1:51.971		
11	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:52.667		
12	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:52.897		
13	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:53.460		
14	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:53.739		
15	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:53.842		
16	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:54.307		
17	8	Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		2:01.075		
18	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari				
19	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes				
20	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes

Sector Times - Free Practice 4

Code: 
[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		38.836 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	39.052 
3	18	Tiago Monteiro		39.059 
4	19	Narain Karthikeyan	39.344 
5	8	Antonio Pizzonia	39.480 
6	2	Rubens Barrichello	39.494 
7	3	Jenson Button		39.635 
8	21	Christijan Albers	39.647 
9	16	Jarno Trulli		39.766 
10	14	David Coulthard		39.829 
11	20	Robert Doornbos		39.918 
12	7	Mark Webber		39.927 
13	11	Jacques Villeneuve	40.139 
14	5	Fernando Alonso		40.198 
15	15	Christian Klien		40.348 
16	4	Takuma Sato		40.767 
17	12	Felipe Massa		40.783

Code: 
[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	19	Narain Karthikeyan	48.352 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	48.545 
3	7	Mark Webber		48.578 
4	21	Christijan Albers	48.674 
5	2	Rubens Barrichello	48.888 
6	3	Jenson Button		48.888 
7	17	Ralf Schumacher		48.978 
8	8	Antonio Pizzonia	49.053 
9	16	Jarno Trulli		49.056 
10	18	Tiago Monteiro		49.276 
11	5	Fernando Alonso		49.371 
12	14	David Coulthard		49.391 
13	20	Robert Doornbos		49.520 
14	15	Christian Klien		49.619 
15	12	Felipe Massa		49.799 
16	4	Takuma Sato		50.079 
17	11	Jacques Villeneuve	50.258

Code: 
[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	3	Jenson Button		22.397 
2	19	Narain Karthikeyan	22.439 
3	14	David Coulthard		22.449 
4	20	Robert Doornbos		22.503 
5	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	22.539 
6	7	Mark Webber		22.541 
7	16	Jarno Trulli		22.544 
8	17	Ralf Schumacher		22.555 
9	21	Christijan Albers	22.673 
10	4	Takuma Sato		22.775 
11	18	Tiago Monteiro		22.888 
12	15	Christian Klien		22.930 
13	5	Fernando Alonso		22.943 
14	11	Jacques Villeneuve	23.063 
15	12	Felipe Massa		23.135 
16	8	Antonio Pizzonia	23.356 
17	2	Rubens Barrichello	23.958

Speed Trap

Code: 
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		10:58:19	258.9 
2	19	Narain Karthikeyan	10:58:22	258.3 
3	3	Jenson Button		11:00:49	258.2 
4	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	11:00:58	257.7 
5	14	David Coulthard		10:51:19	254.8 
6	20	Robert Doornbos		10:59:33	252.1 
7	7	Mark Webber		10:56:57	251.7 
8	4	Takuma Sato		11:00:41	250.9 
9	12	Felipe Massa		10:56:37	248.1 
10	18	Tiago Monteiro		11:00:51	246.5 
11	16	Jarno Trulli		10:58:41	244.8 
12	21	Christijan Albers	10:57:46	244.7 
13	5	Fernando Alonso		10:57:04	244.1 
14	15	Christian Klien		10:46:06	242.9 
15	11	Jacques Villeneuve	11:00:21	239.5 
16	2	Rubens Barrichello	10:49:46	237.2 
17	8	Antonio Pizzonia	10:47:43	234.2
 
Please note - the times below are hidden...

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Qualifying
Code: 
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:46.106		
2	3	Jenson Button 		BAR-Honda		1:46.141		
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:46.276		
4	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:46.464		
5	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:46.841		
6	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:46.892		
7	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:47.233		
8	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:47.440		
9	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:48.248		
10	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:48.278		
11	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:48.718		
12	8	Antonio Pizzonia	Williams-BMW		1:48.898		
13	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:50.843		
14	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:52.676		
15	20	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth	1:52.894		
16	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:54.667		
17	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	2:02.309		
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota				
19	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota				
20	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes

Sector Times

Code: 
[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	37.327 
2	17	Ralf Schumacher		37.396 
3	7	Mark Webber		37.558 
4	11	Jacques Villeneuve	37.578 
5	16	Jarno Trulli		37.631 
6	3	Jenson Button		37.680 
7	1	Michael Schumacher	37.897 
8	15	Christian Klien		37.908 
9	4	Takuma Sato		38.042 
10	14	David Coulthard		38.207 
11	12	Felipe Massa		38.336 
12	2	Rubens Barrichello	38.383 
13	8	Antonio Pizzonia	38.449 
14	19	Narain Karthikeyan	38.688 
15	21	Christijan Albers	39.222 
16	20	Robert Doornbos		39.566 
17	5	Fernando Alonso		39.719 
18	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	41.290 
19	9	Kimi Räikkönen		41.420

Code: 
[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	3	Jenson Button		47.441 
2	15	Christian Klien		47.485 
3	17	Ralf Schumacher		47.501 
4	14	David Coulthard		47.506 
5	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	47.610 
6	4	Takuma Sato		47.728 
7	7	Mark Webber		48.002 
8	2	Rubens Barrichello	48.146 
9	11	Jacques Villeneuve	48.250 
10	19	Narain Karthikeyan	48.256 
11	8	Antonio Pizzonia	48.298 
12	12	Felipe Massa		48.461 
13	16	Jarno Trulli		49.085 
14	21	Christijan Albers	49.143 
15	1	Michael Schumacher	49.898 
16	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	50.263 
17	20	Robert Doornbos		50.646 
18	5	Fernando Alonso		50.666 
19	9	Kimi Räikkönen		53.157

Code: 
[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	3	Jenson Button		21.020 
2	4	Takuma Sato		21.071 
3	15	Christian Klien		21.071 
4	14	David Coulthard		21.179 
5	17	Ralf Schumacher		21.209 
6	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	21.339 
7	12	Felipe Massa		21.481 
8	11	Jacques Villeneuve	21.612 
9	7	Mark Webber		21.673 
10	2	Rubens Barrichello	21.719 
11	19	Narain Karthikeyan	21.774 
12	16	Jarno Trulli		21.992 
13	8	Antonio Pizzonia	22.151 
14	21	Christijan Albers	22.478 
15	20	Robert Doornbos		22.650 
16	1	Michael Schumacher	22.660 
17	5	Fernando Alonso		23.496 
18	9	Kimi Räikkönen		24.655 
19	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	25.320

Speed Trap

Code: 
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		13:38:27	279.0 
2	4	Takuma Sato		13:34:18	276.9 
3	3	Jenson Button		13:40:35	275.9 
4	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	13:48:29	273.9 
5	14	David Coulthard		13:03:35	268.7 
6	12	Felipe Massa		13:28:23	264.1 
7	19	Narain Karthikeyan	13:19:19	262.0 
8	15	Christian Klien		13:36:22	260.1 
9	7	Mark Webber		13:10:43	259.8 
10	20	Robert Doornbos		13:08:31	254.4 
11	16	Jarno Trulli		13:21:53	253.8 
12	11	Jacques Villeneuve	13:26:03	252.9 
13	2	Rubens Barrichello	13:42:54	251.9 
14	21	Christijan Albers	13:21:31	249.3 
15	8	Antonio Pizzonia	13:06:09	245.7 
16	1	Michael Schumacher	13:48:46	236.5 
17	5	Fernando Alonso		13:53:02	232.0 
18	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	13:57:47	229.4 
19	9	Kimi Räikkönen		13:55:25	212.5
 
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Interesting Qual, should make for a great race tomorrow, the weather may make it even more interesting :).

rpstewart said:
Now I for one am sick to the back teeth of Bridgestone (and Ferrari to a certain extent) moaning about the new tyre rules.
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Can you blame them? The FIA have changed the regs for F1 for the past 5 years in a bid to stop Ferrari wining and to make the sport more "interesting". Its finally happened this season.
 
Teams discuss new proposals

Team bosses and drivers held a meeting on Saturday afternoon to discuss a number of issues relating to new proposals being put forward by the FIA for 2006.

Talking to reporters after the meeting, Minardi boss, Paul Stoddart, described the meeting as "positive".

"The drivers had a very valuable input," the Australian revealed, "they took the trouble to prepare an agenda and I enlightened them on what the actual proposals are. Issues discussed included qualifying, driver safety and we also briefly discussed testing.

"I thought it was an incredibly positive meeting," he added.

An FIA spokesman confirmed to Pitpass on Saturday that Max Mosley has issued a number of new proposals to the teams this weekend ahead of a meeting of the Formula One Commission later this month.

Following the debacle that was Sunday qualifying, Formula One is still trying to come up with a format that will please the teams, drivers, race fans, TV broadcasters and sponsors.

Bernie Ecclestone is pushing hard for a knock-out format. However, it remains to be seen if he can sell the idea, especially when he was the driving force behind the unloved Sunday format.

It's understood that other proposals put forward by Mosley include the phasing out of third cars in Friday practice, and also spare cars during GP weekends. It's believed that tyre changes could also be re-introduced, in what will be seen by many as a U-turn by the FIA.

Ahead of the meeting, Frank Williams told reporters: "We are in the entertainment business and most teams enjoy doing that. But Max's problem is that it will make the cars faster.

"That said, next year we'll have a lot less horsepower so maybe it's not such an issue," added the Englishman.
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New Ferrari will debut in January

Ferrari technical director Ross Brawn has revealed that the 2006 Ferrari, which will feature an all-new 2.4 litre V8 engine, in line with the new regulations, will probably make its track debut in mid-January.

Speaking to reporters at Suzuka, the Englishman revealed: "The engine has been running in a hybrid car and will continue to run for the next four or five months.

"We plan to bring the new car out during January, so it will be earlier than previous cars," he continued. "The engine probably has the longest lead time of all the parts we need for next year and that's getting updates and revisions as we go along."

Traditionally, Michael Schumacher has enjoyed a long winter break, not usually joining the team's test programme until mid-January, despite the new formula, Ross Brawn doesn't expect things to be any different this year.

"It's possible but it is not necessary to use Michael for reliability running," he said. "I think the engine is still at a fairly early stage where mapping and fine tuning is not a priority and Michael needs some time away from the car like everyone.

"Traditionally Michael's had a month or six weeks away from Formula One to recharge his batteries and we won't use him unless it is absolutely essential."
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Breakaway threat almost at point of no return

BMW executive board member Burkhard Goeschel has warned that the break up of Formula One is almost at the point of no return.

Last week, the five manufacturers that comprise the Grand Prix Manufacturers' Association, together with a number of F1 teams, signed a binding agreement, making it clear that they intend pursuing the idea of an alternative race series, should the sport's governing body, the FIA, and 'ringmaster' Bernie Ecclestone not agree with various proposals being put forward, including financial issues and also the governance of the sport.

At the same time it was announced that International Sports and Entertainment AG (iSe) has been instructed to "advance strategic and commercial negotiations with key parties", including TV broadcasters, circuit owners and potential sponsors.

Talking to Reuters, Goeschel said: "We have nearly reached the point of no return. The contracts with circuits and sponsors is a two-year approach. The decision should happen within this year.

"The series is on track, going forward and the five manufacturers are united," he added.

The five manufacturers - BMW, DaimlerChrysler, Renault, Honda and Toyota - are joined by BAR, McLaren, Minardi and Sauber. However, Minardi has been bought out by Red Bull and will obviously sign up with Ecclestone's new Concorde Agreement, joining Ferrari, Jordan and Red Bull. Earlier this week, Honda bought out BAR, while BMW has bought Sauber, and Mercedes owns a large slice of McLaren. WilliamsF1 has admitted that it did not sign the agreement, prompting speculation that the British team will sign up with Ecclestone once a price has been agreed.

Other than money, the manufacturers are seeking a total revision of the way the sport is governed. In addition to greater transparency the GPMA wants long-term stability in the sport's rules, and also wants the manufacturers and teams to have the right to create the rules - while the FIA serves as referee not as rule maker: "On this point we are saying that we are not flexible," said Goeschel.

Although both Ecclestone and, FIA President, Max Mosley, have dismissed the threat of a breakaway series, Goeschel warns that the manufacturers are deadly serious, though they hope that it won't come to it.

"I don't think that there will be a split in the future," he said. "The five manufacturers standing together is the most important factor in GP racing today and in the future.

"Honda have bought BAR and now own the team. We are five manufacturers and each one owns a team. We also own the technology," he added. "The most important sponsors in future will be committed to brand values linked to manufacturers. Those companies want to be connected with the big car manufacturers and this is also our strength. I think we will also have the best drivers."
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