2005 Turkish Grand Prix

//Mike · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:33

Have to agree with Martin there. Raikkonen driver of the day.

Byron5184 · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:35

ashtray_head said:
driver of the day guys???

I'd say Raikonnen 1st, clean good race. Button second, getting all the way up to 5th "best of the rest" as martin states.

//Mike · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:35

Arc said:
You cant pull in that close in front of a car and then expect it to brake, the loss of downforce for the Jordan would have been too great. Montoyas done that before though .

Kimi was rather quiet when told that Montoya wasnt 2nd .

Whilst I agree that Montoya pulled in sharpish, Monteiro should have expected Montoya to rejoin the racing line and should have recognised that Montoya was going to have to brake hard infront of him. Monteiro should have started braking earlier to compensate for this.

Flibster · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:35

Raikkonen driver of the day for me as well. Superbly done.

Lost it at the start but that overtaking move between the 2 Renaults was fantastic.

2005 Turkish Grand prix Results *Subject to conformation*

Code:

[b]Pos	Driver			Team		[/b]
1	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes
2	Fernando Alonso		Renault		
3	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes
4	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault		
5	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda	
6	Jarno Trulli		Toyota		
7	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing	
8	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing	
9	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda	
10	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari	
11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas	
12	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota		
13	Robert Doornbos		Minardi-Cosworth
14	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota	
15	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota	
16	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth
17	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari		
18	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW	
19	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas	
20	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW

Richard T · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:36

//Mike said:
Whilst I agree that Montoya pulled in sharpish, Monteiro should have expected Montoya to rejoin the racing line and should have recognised that Montoya was going to have to brake hard infront of him. Monteiro should have started braking earlier to compensate for this.

agreed

Stormrider · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:37

Nice unique trophy there.

Byron5184 · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:37

Very nice trophy

Certainly unique

//Mike · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:39

Turkey obviously isn't dry if they're using champagne - wonder why there was no Jonnie Walker livery on the McLarens then?

Richard T · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:39

gonna need a while to go through all the action

Flibster · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:40

Think these are correct...

Current Standings

2005 Drivers Championship.

Code:

[b]Pos	Driver			Nationality	Team			Points [/b]
1	Fernando Alonso		Spanish		Renault			95
2	Kimi Räikkönen		Finnish		McLaren-Mercedes	71
3	Michael Schumacher	German		Ferrari			55 
4	Juan Pablo Montoya	Colombian	McLaren-Mercedes	40 
5	Jarno Trulli		Italian		Toyota			39 
6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Italian		Renault			35 
7	Ralf Schumacher		German		Toyota			32 
8	Rubens Barrichello	Brazilian	Ferrari			31 
9	Nick Heidfeld		German		Williams-BMW		28 
10	Mark Webber		Australian	Williams-BMW		24 
11	Jenson Button		British		BAR-Honda		23 
12	David Coulthard		British		Red Bull Racing		21 
13	Felipe Massa		Brazilian	Sauber-Petronas		8 
=16	Tiago Monteiro		Portuguese	Jordan-Toyota		6 
=16	Alexander Wurz		Austrian	McLaren-Mercedes	6 
=16	Jacques Villeneuve	Canadian	Sauber-Petronas		6 
=18	Christian Klien		Austrian	Red Bull Racing		5
=18	Narain Karthikeyan	Indian		Jordan-Toyota		5 
=20	Christijan Albers	Dutch		Minardi-Cosworth	4 
=20	Pedro de la Rosa	Spanish		McLaren-Mercedes	4 
21	Patrick Friesacher	Austrian	Minardi-Cosworth	3 
=23	Vitantonio Liuzzi	Italian		Red Bull Racing		1 
=23	Takuma Sato		Japanese	BAR-Honda		1

2005 Constructors Championship.

Code:

[b]Pos	Constructor 		Points[/b]
1	Renault			130
2	McLaren-Mercedes	121
3	Ferrari			86	
4	Toyota			71	
5	Williams-BMW		52	
6	Red Bull Racing		27	
7	BAR-Honda		24	
8	Sauber-Petronas		14	
9	Jordan-Toyota		11	
10	Minardi-Cosworth	7

9 points in it for the Constructors championship.. :eek:

Simon/~Flibster

Arc · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:40

//Mike said:
Whilst I agree that Montoya pulled in sharpish, Monteiro should have expected Montoya to rejoin the racing line and should have recognised that Montoya was going to have to brake hard infront of him. Monteiro should have started braking earlier to compensate for this.

Time the entire incident from Montoya pulling in to going off, there wasnt time for Monteiro to react.

vanpeebles · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:41

//Mike said:
Turkey obviously isn't dry if they're using champagne - wonder why there was no Jonnie Walker livery on the McLarens then?

might of been panda lemonade in champers bottles

//Mike · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:42

Monteiro shouldn't have left himself that little time to react though. If he knew that Montoya was going to pass him he should have recognised he would have very little time to react and should have altered his braking accordingly.

//Mike · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:44

vanpeebles said:
might of been panda lemonade in champers bottles

They were advertising MUMM on the podium though.

Richard T · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:48

so the jordan broke the diffuser on the mclaren then
that explains the off then

Flibster · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:50

ashtray_head said:
so the jordan broke the diffuser on the mclaren then
that explains the off then

Something like 20% of the rear downforce gone just like that...

Richard T · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:51

Flibster said:
Something like 20% of the rear downforce gone just like that...

not good on that particular corner

Richard T · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:52

well jense enjoyed it and so did we

vanpeebles · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:52

that turn 8 needs a real manly name, thunder curve or something

Flibster · 21 Aug 2005 at 14:53

Not really no.

M.Schumacher is apparently being investigated by the stewards for 2 incidents in the race...

Simon/~Flibster