2005 United States Grand Prix

goreblast said:
Also everyone - quick question about the qualifying times tomorrow. Do you want me to post the qualy times after it takes place or what until after ITV have shown their program? I cant remember what Simon/Flibster normally does. Majbe provide a link to the times from 6ish until midnight then update the post with the times after the program has finished? Sound OK?

Just do what I used to do - means you can then take a rest overnight *unlike in canada. :(*

All I did was hide the results using a colour code that makes the text the same colour as the background in the code box..

Taking the data from Monaco *only one on this hdd atm..*

Thursday Free Practice 1.
Code:
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:17.152		
2	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:17.301		
3	37	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:17.511		
4	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:17.640		
5	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:17.869		
6	35	Alexander Wurz		McLaren-Mercedes	1:18.059		
7	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:18.244		
8	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:18.482		
9	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:18.669		
10	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:18.838		
11	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		1:18.859		
12	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:19.055		
13	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:19.255		
14	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:19.755		
15	15	Vitantonio Liuzzi	Red Bull Racing		1:19.844		
16	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:20.180		
17	38	Ricardo Zonta		Toyota			1:20.979		
18	39	Robert Doornbos		Jordan-Toyota		1:21.511		
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	1:21.968		
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:22.388		
21	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:23.521		
22	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:25.664

All I would do is add [ color=003366] after the column titles and add [ /color] at the end before the final [/code]...like thus

Thursday Free Practice 1.
Code:
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[color=#003366][/b]
1	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:17.152		
2	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:17.301		
3	37	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:17.511		
4	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:17.640		
5	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:17.869		
6	35	Alexander Wurz		McLaren-Mercedes	1:18.059		
7	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:18.244		
8	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:18.482		
9	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:18.669		
10	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:18.838		
11	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		1:18.859		
12	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:19.055		
13	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:19.255		
14	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:19.755		
15	15	Vitantonio Liuzzi	Red Bull Racing		1:19.844		
16	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:20.180		
17	38	Ricardo Zonta		Toyota			1:20.979		
18	39	Robert Doornbos		Jordan-Toyota		1:21.511		
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	1:21.968		
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:22.388		
21	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:23.521		
22	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:25.664 [/color]

Simon/~Flibster
 
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I'm liking the sound of these changes. The technology involved in Formula 1 has always been a turn off for me. I would sooner they all drive forumula 3/000 cars. Its the level of coverage and attention that makes it special imho, the cars have little to do with it (for me).
 
Alarm bells are already starting to ring: 90% less downforce than the current cars? Erm, that really aint leaving them with a lot, why dont you they just ban front and rear wings ;).

I'm all for close racing but these proposals sound more like fancy budgeting than actually improving the sport. Whats next, the tracks are too expensive so we'll just nip to 20 different Tescos stores and use the car parks :eek:.
 
Friday Practice Session 1
Code:
Pos	No	Driver Team					Time 

1	10	Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes		1:12.027
2	38	Ricardo Zonta Toyota				1:12.085
3	5	Fernando Alonso Renault				1:12.666
4	8	Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW			1:12.804
5	3	Jenson Button BAR-Honda				1:12.865
6	35	Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes		1:12.913
7	4	Takuma Sato BAR-Honda				1:13.013
8	6	Giancarlo Fisichella Renault			1:13.024
9	7	Mark Webber Williams-BMW			1:13.082
10	1	Michael Schumacher Ferrari			1:13.242
11	2	Rubens Barrichello Ferrari			1:13.245
12	17	Ralf Schumacher Toyota				1:13.461
13	16	Jarno Trulli Toyota				1:13.683
14	14	David Coulthard Red Bull Racing			1:13.740
15	37	Scott Speed Red Bull Racing			1:13.846
16	15	Christian Klien Red Bull Racing			1:14.444
17	12	Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas			1:14.637
18	11	Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas		1:14.696
19	19	Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota		1:14.803
20	18	Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota			1:14.978
21	39	Robert Doornbos Jordan-Toyota			1:15.791
22	20	Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth		1:16.343
23	21	Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth		1:16.357
24	9	Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
 
Formula 3000 races are half the distance of formula 1. They are all going to be on the same strategy for a start hence more of a procession. Besides I find it better to have a field of cars on the same level.
 
Sector Times
Code:
Position	No	Driver			Time 

			 
SECTOR 1 

1		38	Ricardo Zonta		22.217 
2		10	Juan Pablo Montoya	22.266 
3		5	Fernando Alonso		22.333 
4		9	Kimi Räikkönen		22.396 
5		1	Michael Schumacher	22.444 
6		3	Jenson Button		22.499 
7		7	Mark Webber		22.522 
8		6	Giancarlo Fisichella	22.534 
9		2	Rubens Barrichello	22.558 
10		4	Takuma Sato		22.595 
11		8	Nick Heidfeld		22.710 
12		35	Pedro de la Rosa	22.715 
13		16	Jarno Trulli		22.731 
14		17	Ralf Schumacher		22.837 
15		12	Felipe Massa		22.911 
16		14	David Coulthard		22.919 
17		11	Jacques Villeneuve	22.921 
18		19	Narain Karthikeyan	22.962 
19		37	Scott Speed		23.096 
20		18	Tiago Monteiro		23.152 
21		15	Christian Klien		23.354 
22		39	Robert Doornbos		23.440 
23		21	Christijan Albers	23.777 
24		20	Patrick Friesacher	23.850 
			 

SECTOR 2 

1		8	Nick Heidfeld		29.767 
2		10	Juan Pablo Montoya	29.878 
3		38	Ricardo Zonta		29.898 
4		7	Mark Webber		29.947 
5		1	Michael Schumacher	29.974 
6		3	Jenson Button		30.039 
7		5	Fernando Alonso		30.040 
8		4	Takuma Sato		30.124 
9		14	David Coulthard		30.130 
10		9	Kimi Räikkönen		30.133 
11		35	Pedro de la Rosa	30.178 
12		6	Giancarlo Fisichella	30.181 
13		17	Ralf Schumacher		30.250 
14		2	Rubens Barrichello	30.290 
15		37	Scott Speed		30.340 
16		15	Christian Klien		30.437 
17		16	Jarno Trulli		30.575 
18		11	Jacques Villeneuve	30.596 
19		12	Felipe Massa		30.694 
20		18	Tiago Monteiro		30.770
21		19	Narain Karthikeyan	31.036 
22		39	Robert Doornbos		31.177 
23		20	Patrick Friesacher	31.441 
24		21	Christijan Albers	31.502 
			 

SECTOR 3 

1		10	Juan Pablo Montoya	19.849 
2		38	Ricardo Zonta		19.970 
3		35	Pedro de la Rosa	20.020 
4		5	Fernando Alonso		20.115 
5		3	Jenson Button		20.133 
6		9	Kimi Räikkönen		20.133 
7		2	Rubens Barrichello	20.197 
8		4	Takuma Sato		20.227 
9		17	Ralf Schumacher		20.249 
10		6	Giancarlo Fisichella	20.275
11		16	Jarno Trulli		20.314 
12		8	Nick Heidfeld		20.327 
13		37	Scott Speed		20.375 
14		1	Michael Schumacher	20.378 
15		11	Jacques Villeneuve	20.422 
16		12	Felipe Massa		20.427 
17		15	Christian Klien		20.463 
18		14	David Coulthard		20.491 
19		7	Mark Webber		20.508 
20		19	Narain Karthikeyan	20.532 
21		18	Tiago Monteiro		20.575 
22		39	Robert Doornbos		20.768 
23		20	Patrick Friesacher	20.854 
24		21	Christijan Albers	20.981
 
Speed Trap
Code:
Pos	No	Driver			Time of Day	Speed 
				 
1	38	Ricardo Zonta		11:55:06	346.4 
2	4	Takuma Sato		11:58:36	343.6 
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	11:54:49	341.9 
4	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	11:55:04	341.3 
5	5	Fernando Alonso		11:54:29	341.1 
6	12	Felipe Massa		11:54:51	338.5
7	11	Jacques Villeneuve	11:55:59	338.5
8	17	Ralf Schumacher		11:53:10	336.3 
9	16	Jarno Trulli		11:56:00	336.3 
10	18	Tiago Monteiro		11:57:59	335.9 
11	19	Narain Karthikeyan	11:59:40	335.2 
12	3	Jenson Button		11:56:22	333.8 
13	37	Scott Speed		11:43:26	333.3 
14	9	Kimi Räikkönen		11:50:00	333.2 
15	39	Robert Doornbos		11:58:07	333.1 
16	2	Rubens Barrichello	11:43:29	332.0 
17	1	Michael Schumacher	11:56:58	332.0 
18	21	Christijan Albers	11:55:41	331.8 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	11:54:52	331.6 
20	8	Nick Heidfeld		11:58:01	331.1 
21	7	Mark Webber		11:55:13	330.9 
22	15	Christian Klien		11:57:28	330.9 
23	14	David Coulthard		11:55:18	330.1 
24	35	Pedro de la Rosa	11:10:22	329.7
 
rpstewart - ever watched a Formula Ford race? Or Foruma Renault for that matter.

That's a series where the onus is on mechanical rather than aerodynamic grip.

F3000 is a bad comparison. GP2 would be better.

Arc - F1 races have been held in car parks before...Certainly wouldn't discount it happening again...

*n
 
No problem Mike

Back to Max Mosley - One thing I would say is that he always puts the most extreme view and what actually happens is a watered down version of his (so called) vision. So fingers crossed.
 
penski said:
Arc - F1 races have been held in car parks before...Certainly wouldn't discount it happening again...

*n

I know that, back in the good old days :).

Except this time I have visions of them using trolleys to mark out chicanes ;).
 
Which of the current GPs would you lose the least sleep over if it was to be dropped from the calender as replaced with (eg) Russia or South Africa. For me it would have to be Hungary.
 
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