2006 Spanish Grand Prix - Race 6/18

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[b]Pos	Driver			Session 1	Session 2	Session 3[/b]
1	Alonso			1:15.816	1:15.124	1:14.648
2	Fisichella		1:16.046	1:14.766	1:14.709
3	M.Schumacher		1:16.049	1:14.637	1:14.970
4	Massa			1:16.359	1:15.245	1:15.442
5	Barrichello		1:16.266	1:15.258	1:15.885
6	R.Schumacher		1:16.234	1:15.164	1:15.885
7	Trulli			1:16.174	1:15.068	1:15.976
8	Button			1:16.054	1:15.150	1:16.008
9	Raikkonen		1:16.613	1:15.422	1:16.015
10	Heidfeld		1:16.322	1:15.468	1:17.144
11	Webber			1:16.685	1:15.502
12	Montoya			1:16.195	1:15.801
13	Rosberg			1:17.213	1:15.804
14	Villeneuve		1:16.066	1:15.847
15	Klien			1:16.627	1:15.928
16	Liuzzi			1:17.105	1:16.661
17	Speed			1:17.361
18	Monteiro		1:17.702
19	Albers			1:18.024
20	Sato			1:18.920
21	Montagny		1:20.763
22	Coulthard		No Time
 
Flibster said:
Oh yes- Ferrari's problem last year was allll due to tyres.. The car was didgy in all areas - they pretty much gave up as far as I could see towards the end of the year and concentrated on this years car.

Renault's 'launch control' is partially due to having a very heavy rear end to the car. They understeer everywhere but have immense traction. Large fuel loads help this as thats more weight at the back.

They all flex - but none quite as much as Ferrari's - the main problem with the Ferrari wing was that it also appeared to twist.

Right so let me get this straight...Renault have a really heavy rear end alledgedly yet somehow suffered minimal graining on the front tyres last year compared to everyone!

Umm do you really work in F1?

They understeer everywhere but have immense traction.

;) :D :D
 
Flibster said:
They all flex - but none quite as much as Ferrari's - the main problem with the Ferrari wing was that it also appeared to twist.

Flibster said:
Ferrari were told to change both - and all they've done on the front is added a little cover over the bit that slides..

So it flexes, slides and twists. Thats some movement for a small part of carbon fibre.

You saw the Ranaults wing 'Flexing' at the Nurburgring yet no one was complaing because they are not Ferrari.

There is a big difference from wing appearing to do it and actually twisting. It was the little wing above the main element that you are talking about where it attaches to the nose cone which smothes the air flow not provide down force whereas the Renaults main element moves yet you done cry and moan about that.

It is the same when Ferrari are faster than anyone everybody says they are running light and there rivals have more fuel on board yet when Renault, McLaren etc. are quickest it is because they have the best package, have the best strategy etc.
 
Type_R said:
Right so let me get this straight...Renault have a really heavy rear end alledgedly yet somehow suffered minimal graining on the front tyres last year compared to everyone!

Umm do you really work in F1?

Hmmm...so - what contributes to graining

Suspension geometry
Track Surface
Grip
Track temperature

Graining is caused by the tyre sliding sideways across the track surface - it also causes understeer - not good if you have understeer to start with.

If the tyre is cold then you will be more likely get graining. Too hot - blistering...

Graining also goes away as you wear the tyres - so in the first few laps - you thrash them - you'll be pretty grain free the rest of the day.

Some circuits are more subject to graining than others - Canada will be more likely to grain the rears, Imola the front.

So - Renault may have had understeer but weere working the tyres in the correct operating temperature with the correct setup.

Understeer != Graining but Graining = Understeer

Also - I don't work in F1 - I used to...
 
Schu confident of winning pace

Michael Schumacher believes that Ferrari is still on course to spoil Fernando Alonso’s party, despite the Spaniard taking pole position on home ground at Barcelona on Saturday.

The German, who is on a hat-trick in this weekend’s Spanish Grand Prix, reckons that his third place grid is not a true reflection of what he believes is the team’s strong race pace.

“It’s all about the strategy whether you can be disappointed or you should be rather happy,” he said.

“In general I think we knew that we might have a little sacrifice for qualifying but we have a very strong race pace and that’s what we have to concentrate on.

“That’s what we obviously knew when we started the weekend, so that’s where we are. No surprise.”

Ferrari may have opted for the harder of Bridgestone’s two tyre compounds, which Schumacher will then be hoping gives him the pace to challenge through the two pit stop zones.

The Bridgestone seems to be stronger towards the end of stint than the Michelin, and Schumacher will be looking to take advantage of that during those periods of the race.

“Unlike at the Nurburgring, this time, I start from the clean side of the grid,” he said.

“As for race strategy, there are two possibilities and now we will have to make sure we pick the best one."

The team’s technical director Ross Brawn is equally optimistic that Ferrari, whose other driver Felipe Massa starts fourth, will turn the tables around on Sunday.

"It was a very exciting session which kept our drivers and engineers busy right to the end,” he said.

“I think both Michael and Felipe did an excellent job. Obviously, you always hope to be as far forward as possible on the grid, but the cars are very good and it looks as though the Bridgestone tyres should give a strong performance over a long distance.

“There is good reason to be optimistic about tomorrow's race."
 
Barrichello strong, Button disappointed
Spanish GP - Honda - Qualifying


Rubens Barrichello cemented a good start to his Spanish Grand Prix challenge today, posting the fifth fastest time of this afternoon's qualifying session. He will line up on the third row of the grid for the start of tomorrow's 66 lap race at the Circuit de Catalunya.

On the opposite side of the garage, a promising start to the qualifying session turned to disappointment for Jenson Button as he picked up a lot of unexpected understeer on his final run and was unable to improve on the eighth fastest time.

Rubens Barrichello
"Obviously I'm very happy with my qualifying position. I think I extracted the maximum out of the car today. It is quite difficult to beat the other two teams at the moment so we just have to concentrate on what we have now and make the best of every opportunity during the race. I'm quite happy with what we have achieved today and I'm looking forward to tomorrow."

Jenson Button
"I'm extremely disappointed to qualify in eighth position. The car balance was fine until I asked for a little more front wing. Normally you would expect to get a better front end on the car but I had massive understeer, far more than we would have expected. We'll have to look at the data to see what the problem is and hopefully address it in time for tomorrow."

Gil de Ferran, Sporting Director
"We have mixed emotions regarding today's qualifying session. It all went smoothly for Rubens, who had a great run to put the car in 5th position on the grid. Jenson on the other hand was going similarly well, but unexpectedly he picked up a lot of understeer on his last run on new tyres and this is something we need to investigate. As always there are a lot of unknowns in terms of strategy so we will see what tomorrow brings."

Shuhei Nakamoto, HRD Engineering Director
"We were aiming for slightly better starting grid positions overall, but this gives us the chance to fight for points tomorrow. We know we have to keep working hard to improve and give our drivers an even stronger package. No issues to report with either engine."
 
Those 2008 regulations....

Looking around, one could easily draw the conclusion that this week's inaugural meeting of the FIA's new Sporting Working Group (SWG), described as one of the most important F1 meetings in years, went swimmingly and that everyone is delighted with the results.

Indeed, speaking at yesterday's FIA press conference, both Ron Dennis and Nick Fry were clearly happy with the progress that has (seemingly) been made.

However, while Ferrari, Red Bull and Scuderia Toro Rosso always voted with the FIA, occasionally joined by Prodrive, with vote therefore usually going either 9-3 or 8-4, the remaining teams always voted against the FIA.

In line with the process set out by the FIA, and backed by the fact that highly-seasoned F1 experts, the members of the SWG, have placed these votes, the teams (and pretty much the rest of the paddock) now expect the F1 Commission and World Motor Sport Council to rubber stamp the majority votes.

The end result is that that the regulations, which Max Mosley said had to be agreed by 30 June have all been thrown out, which beggars the question what will the FIA President do next, especially in light of the fact that he previously declared that he would accept the Sporting Working Group's vote. Will he respect his own process or will he argue that these majority votes are not in line with the interests of F1 and motor sport in general?

Time will tell.

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Qualifying
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[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Session 1	Session 2	Session 3[/b]
1	1	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:15.816	1:15.124	1:14.648 
2	2	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:16.046	1:14.766	1:14.709 
3	5	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:16.049	1:14.637	1:14.970 
4	6	Felipe Massa		Ferrari			1:16.359	1:15.245	1:15.442 
5	11	Rubens Barrichello	Honda			1:16.266	1:15.258	1:15.885 
6	7	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:16.234	1:15.164	1:15.885 
7	8	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:16.174	1:15.068	1:15.976 
8	12	Jenson Button		Honda			1:16.054	1:15.150	1:16.008 
9	3	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:16.613	1:15.422	1:16.015 
10	16	Nick Heidfeld		Sauber-BMW		1:16.322	1:15.468	1:17.144 
11	9	Mark Webber		Williams-Cosworth	1:16.685	1:15.502	
12	4	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:16.195	1:15.801	
13	10	Nico Rosberg		Williams-Cosworth	1:17.213 	1:15.804	
14	17	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-BMW		1:16.066	1:15.847	
15	15	Christian Klien		RBR-Ferrari		1:16.627	1:15.928	
16	20	Vitantonio Liuzzi	STR-Cosworth		1:17.105	1:16.661	
17	21	Scott Speed		STR-Cosworth		1:17.361	 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		MF1-Toyota		1:17.702	 
19	19	Christijan Albers	MF1-Toyota		1:18.024	 
20	22	Takuma Sato		Super Aguri-Honda	1:18.920	 
21	23	Franck Montagny		Super Aguri-Honda	1:20.763	 
22	14	David Coulthard		RBR-Ferrari		No time

Sector Times - Qualifying

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[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	5	Michael Schumacher	22.134 
2	6	Felipe Massa		22.363 
3	2	Giancarlo Fisichella	22.405 
4	17	Jacques Villeneuve	22.432 
5	1	Fernando Alonso		22.440 
6	8	Jarno Trulli		22.526 
7	16	Nick Heidfeld		22.590 
8	7	Ralf Schumacher		22.591 
9	12	Jenson Button		22.602 
10	10	Nico Rosberg		22.643 
11	3	Kimi Räikkönen		22.649 
12	11	Rubens Barrichello	22.665 
13	9	Mark Webber		22.756 
14	4	Juan Pablo Montoya	22.803 
15	15	Christian Klien		22.900 
16	20	Vitantonio Liuzzi	23.035 
17	21	Scott Speed		23.058 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		23.308 
19	19	Christijan Albers	23.470 
20	22	Takuma Sato		23.716 
21	23	Franck Montagny		23.920

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[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	1	Fernando Alonso		29.727 
2	2	Giancarlo Fisichella	29.731 
3	5	Michael Schumacher	29.862 
4	12	Jenson Button		29.957 
5	3	Kimi Räikkönen		29.964 
6	11	Rubens Barrichello	29.976 
7	8	Jarno Trulli		29.981 
8	7	Ralf Schumacher		30.002 
9	9	Mark Webber		30.112 
10	6	Felipe Massa		30.157 
11	15	Christian Klien		30.182 
12	16	Nick Heidfeld		30.194 
13	4	Juan Pablo Montoya	30.281 
14	10	Nico Rosberg		30.339 
15	17	Jacques Villeneuve	30.426 
16	20	Vitantonio Liuzzi	30.503 
17	21	Scott Speed		30.895 
18	19	Christijan Albers	30.955 
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		31.146 
20	22	Takuma Sato		31.581 
21	23	Franck Montagny		32.165 
22	14	David Coulthard		32.532

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[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	2	Giancarlo Fisichella	22.480 
2	1	Fernando Alonso		22.481 
3	8	Jarno Trulli		22.561 
4	7	Ralf Schumacher		22.571 
5	12	Jenson Button		22.591 
6	11	Rubens Barrichello	22.617 
7	4	Juan Pablo Montoya	22.627 
8	9	Mark Webber		22.634 
9	5	Michael Schumacher	22.641 
10	6	Felipe Massa		22.667 
11	16	Nick Heidfeld		22.684 
12	10	Nico Rosberg		22.762 
13	17	Jacques Villeneuve	22.808 
14	3	Kimi Räikkönen		22.809 
15	15	Christian Klien		22.846 
16	20	Vitantonio Liuzzi	23.123 
17	18	Tiago Monteiro		23.248 
18	21	Scott Speed		23.306 
19	19	Christijan Albers	23.433 
20	22	Takuma Sato		23.623 
21	23	Franck Montagny		23.905 
22	14	David Coulthard		31.764

Speed Trap

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[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	6	Felipe Massa		14:48:22	319.7 
2	5	Michael Schumacher	14:30:12	314.1 
3	2	Giancarlo Fisichella	14:49:44	311.2 
4	17	Jacques Villeneuve	14:15:03	308.7 
5	16	Nick Heidfeld		15:03:45	308.5 
6	11	Rubens Barrichello	14:51:04	308.2 
7	7	Ralf Schumacher		14:28:43	307.6 
8	8	Jarno Trulli		14:14:32	307.5 
9	1	Fernando Alonso		14:58:04	304.8 
10	21	Scott Speed		14:14:55	304.4 
11	15	Christian Klien		14:06:43	303.8 
12	3	Kimi Räikkönen		14:59:14	303.7 
13	10	Nico Rosberg		14:37:03	303.1 
14	4	Juan Pablo Montoya	14:14:52	302.8 
15	9	Mark Webber		14:27:23	301.6 
16	12	Jenson Button		14:52:15	301.5 
17	22	Takuma Sato		14:03:32	301.4 
18	20	Vitantonio Liuzzi	14:14:45	300.5 
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		14:15:09	295.6 
20	19	Christijan Albers	14:03:37	291.4 
21	23	Franck Montagny		14:04:27	289.7 
22	14	David Coulthard		14:06:17	256.8
 
Spanish GP: Qualifying notes - WilliamsF1

Sam Michael, Technical Director, WilliamsF1: "It's disappointing to have neither car in the final ten - a couple of tenths takes you a long way. However, we are confident of having a good race pace and using a good strategy tomorrow."

Mark Webber: "We got a bit of idea in testing that maybe it was going to be a little bit difficult for us here, but you only really confirm this on the day, and we found out today that we are just a sniff away from getting into the top ten. This is the first time this year that I didn't make it into the last ten by a small margin, but unfortunately we are not quick enough over one lap."

Nico Rosberg: "We still seem to be missing something to get qualifying right and making it into the top ten and this is something we need to work on. Our race pace so far this season has been quite alright though and I think tomorrow we should look quite good, especially with respect to our tyres. Both Mark and I are in good shape to collect some points in the race and we proved at the Nurburgring that we are able to make up positions into the points, even from the back of the field."

Sean O'Mahony, Principal Engineer - F1 Race Engineering, Cosworth Ltd: "Today was fairly uneventful on the engine front - there were no reliability issues in any of the sessions. On the calibration side, we carried out some fine tuning of the maps we developed yesterday and made an improvement in the low engine speed range. Hopefully we will see the benefits of this work tomorrow."
 
Spanish GP: Qualifying notes - Renault

The Renault F1 Team took first and second positions on the grid for the Spanish Grand Prix this afternoon, with World Champion Fernando Alonso taking pole position at his home race for the first time, ahead of team-mate Giancarlo Fisichella.

This is the first all-Renault front row since the 2005 Chinese Grand Prix, the team's third pole position of the season in six races, and Fernando Alonso's second consecutive pole.

Both drivers have enjoyed a trouble-free weekend so far, and the R26 is handling well on the long high-speed corners of the Circuit de Catalunya. Tomorrow, tyre performance is expected to be a determining factor, as the circuit is notoriously demanding for tyres. So far, both Renault drivers have demonstrated the excellent single-lap performance of the Michelin products, and are confident in their consistency over a race distance.

Fernando Alonso: I don't think even 66 laps tomorrow will be enough for me to enjoy this race, because it is pure pleasure to be driving here in Barcelona this weekend in front of my people. It is fantastic to be on pole because the times have been very close all the way through practice, probably because we test a lot at this circuit, and we expected the qualifying session to be tough. In fact, we were more nervous about Q2 than Q3 before the session started. But like in the Nürburgring, we were not so strong in the second part, and then found something extra in the third session, so I am really happy to take my second consecutive pole. Looking ahead for tomorrow, after the Renaults it is clear that Ferrari and especially Michael are very strong. So far, my worst result in five races has been second position, and if we can keep this consistency then it will be good for the championship. But we will go into the race thinking the victory is possible.

Giancarlo Fisichella: It is nice to be P2 after a couple of difficult qualifying sessions for me at the last races. The Renault performance has been very good here all winter in testing, and we expected to be competitive at this circuit. To take the front row is a great result, and we are optimistic that we have a good package not just in qualifying, but for the race. I said at the last races that I could have fought for the podium if my qualifying position had been stronger, and I think I proved that today. There will be a tough battle for us with Ferrari tomorrow afternoon, and between the tyre manufacturers as well. I am looking forward to a great race.

Pat Symonds, Executive Director of Engineering: This was a very exciting qualifying session, and we were delighted to see both of our drivers put in perfect laps today. We have been pleased with the long-run performance of the Michelin tyres so far this weekend, and this afternoon's result shows they are working well on the first lap too. It has all the makings of a very exciting race tomorrow.

Denis Chevrier, Head of Trackside Engine Operations: It is extremely satisfying to see both cars on the front row this afternoon, and to see Fernando take pole in front of his home fans – the second in a row for him, and the RS26B engine. We have had a very smooth weekend so far, and went into qualifying with the intention of putting ourselves in the optimum position for the race. Taking the front row is the perfect way to do that, and puts us in the right place to make the most of our pace in race conditions. After two difficult qualifying sessions, we were all pleased to see Giancarlo put in a faultless performance, and qualify strongly at the front of the field. We are now looking forward to a strong team performance in tomorrow afternoon's Grand Prix.
 
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Spanish GP: Qualifying notes - Red Bull

David Coulthard: There was failure on the car. Turn three is not a difficult corner, even when you're flat out, and I was on an out lap and not pushing hard at all. Something failed at the rear of the car and it just went away from me. I'm really *piddled* off as I think we were in really good shape this morning, but we just need to take it on the chin and see what we can do in the race.

Christian Klien: I got through the first qualifying part okay. The second part looked good at the beginning, but when I went out on new tyres I lost some time in the first sector. The car was understeering quite a lot and (Jacques) Villeneuve held me up on my last flying lap, but with this new qualifying system it's so easy to get held up in traffic. My qualifying position is not great, but it's a long race tomorrow and we'll play a little bit with our strategy, so hopefully we'll get some points.

Christian Horner: It was unfortunate that David suffered a problem. His car's water system lost pressure. He was quick this morning and was feeling confident ahead of the session. For Christian, we always knew it would be tight to get into the top ten, but we've been looking more competitive this weekend. Christian made it through to part two of the session and the first time he set was very respectable. Unfortunately he was blocked on his final run, which was a shame as it cost him the opportunity to improve. The grid is so tight now that every tenth of a second counts. But, we'll race hard tomorrow and go from there.
 
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