2012 NASCAR thread

Perhaps AJ can come back to Indycar, assuming they don't mind this incident that is ;)

I'm surprised you didn't comment on last weekend's Nationwide race at Chicagoland, JRS...or the Cup race at New Hampshire for that matter.
 
I'm surprised you didn't comment on last weekend's Nationwide race at Chicagoland, JRS...or the Cup race at New Hampshire for that matter.

I didn't watch them, so there wasn't a great deal for me to say! :) Should be watching the weekend races at Indy though.
 
Did I watch the Chicago NNS race? Remind me what happened?

Elliot Sadler extended his championship lead by winning (though Stenhouse Jr lead the most laps). None of the other top 9 changed by much (just relative points differences). Hornish wrecked Kyle Busch two laps from the end and finished 8th in the race. Danica was in mid-pack again (14th).

I didn't watch them, so there wasn't a great deal for me to say! :) Should be watching the weekend races at Indy though.

Why not? You seem a lot more into Nascar than I am :p
 
Why not? You seem a lot more into Nascar than I am :p

Lack of usable internet connection. Tried it out pre-race, but no dice - couldn't go more than a few seconds without skipping or buffering. Since then I've lit a rocket up Openreach's backside, and got my connection back up to ~3meg and better line quality.
 
Lack of usable internet connection. Tried it out pre-race, but no dice - couldn't go more than a few seconds without skipping or buffering. Since then I've lit a rocket up Openreach's backside, and got my connection back up to ~3meg and better line quality.

Oh, I figured you'd have the TV channels to watch it. BT are a terrible ISP, I only use them for phone lines (and they do that well enough, I get a healthy ~9mbit despite being in the middle of nowhere relatively speaking). That said, my own ISP has gone a little downhill relative to their early excellence since O2\Telefonica purchased them.
 
Oh, I figured you'd have the TV channels to watch it.

Nope, no TV channels. No TV! Just a Hauppauge adapter for the computer to watch Freeview, if I can even be bothered. Still haven't watched a GP live since before Bahrain (which I didn't watch on principle, the rest are just because I had something better to do), haven't even bothered with the BBC highlights for many of those races that they didn't want to meet their original contract for.

BT are a terrible ISP, I only use them for phone lines (and they do that well enough, I get a healthy ~9mbit despite being in the middle of nowhere relatively speaking). That said, my own ISP has gone a little downhill relative to their early excellence since O2\Telefonica purchased them.

I'm with TalkTalk, which might well be terrible but at least they're cheap and terrible....unlike other ISPs, which are expensive and terrible. Unfortunately, since I live in the relative technological wilderness of Stretton, I'm limited in what I can actually get. Hell, my road hasn't even been updated with the rest of the village for FTTC yet, despite the live date for the Burton-on-Trent exchange being the end of last month....
 
Nope, no TV channels. No TV! Just a Hauppauge adapter for the computer to watch Freeview, if I can even be bothered.

Fair enough.

I'm with TalkTalk, which might well be terrible but at least they're cheap and terrible...

I guess so. I only pay £14 a month though (with Be) and rarely encounter any issues (just one short outage in the last 18 months).

..despite the live date for the Burton-on-Trent exchange being the end of last month....

That's what happens with private infrastructure monopolies. Slovakian telecoms providers will bundle 100Mbit connections with your phoneline (and that's been the case for years) for a pittance. The UK government is too busy subsidising the finance, drug, security and war industries to care about useful items...

Anyway, going back to NASCAR I notice that Kenseth is still holding onto the top spot despite his average race at Loudon...Junebug is getting closer in points though.
 
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Anyway, going back to NASCAR I notice that Kenseth is still holding onto the top spot despite his average race at Loudon...Junebug is getting closer in points though.

Ah, but can they maintain their form going into the Chase? That's going to be the big question.

Jeff Gordon is pretty much certain to not qualify for the Chase now, so that's one big name out of it. Yes, there are seven races to go until the Chase (including this weekend at Indy) but his team's form is in the tank. Carl Edwards is 46 points away from 10th place, and would also (like Gordon) need to win at least twice to be in with a shout of getting a wildcard entry so he could well be out of it (not to mention having to change crew chief now since Bob Osborne is retiring on health grounds). Who else can displace someone now? Well, Ryan Newman and Joey Logano are both on a win each, so if either wins again and Kyle Busch doesn't then they could get a wildcard.
 
This weekend marks the first time that the Nationwide series has come to Indianapolis Motor Speedway. For 30 years or so up until last year, their event was held at a track called Lucas Oil Raceway. For a long time, this track was known as Indianpolis Raceway Park. It was called Indianapolis Raceway Park because it is in Clermont, Indiana as opposed to Indianapolis, Indiana.

Yes, quite. Never really got that one myself....

Aaaaaaanyway. The Nationwide drivers have had their first experience at running around this legendary piece of racetrack. Suffice to say, it has the potential to be a bit quick. No surprise that Kyle Busch has been the one to show the way in practice - say what you like about his lack of emotional maturity (and I frequently do), the kid can really drive. I once made a thread about the rumours of him wanting to test a Formula One car, and if he was given a drive then that would be me done with the sport. Now....I actually wouldn't mind seeing what he could do with a good F1 car.

Nationwide engines produce 650 horsepower, about 200 less than their Sprint Cup counterparts, and Thursday that speed difference was evident. In turns 2 and 4, [Justin] Allgaier said, drivers could keep the accelerator mashed all the way down, because they haven't built up as much momentum coming out of the short chutes at either end of the track. In turns 1 and 3, which follow long straightaways, they had to lift -- but not much. Just a little bit to set the nose of the car, according to [Sam] Hornish. "You'll definitely be pretty close to flat [out] once you get a good handle on a car," he added.

[Kyle] Busch seemed to have just that, pacing final practice with a speed of 175.836. Austin Dillon can't imagine Busch came off the throttle much, if at all. "He might be just barely [coming off], but he's close to it," the Richard Childress Racing driver said. "We're tight, and I think he's got his car pretty loose to do it. But yeah, I think you're going to see someone go wide open for sure to get the pole, or right at it, and some people are going to be touching that wall coming off the corner because you're just going to get a little bit tight."

That flat-out speed, though, doesn't mask the difficulty of this race track, particularly for drivers in a series that has no history at a place like Indianapolis. Long straights, sharp corners, zero banking, a tight pit road with a wall on either side, a narrow racing surface that puts a premium on track position -- they all combine to present a challenge unlike anything most of the Nationwide drivers have seen before. And then there's the fact that crew chiefs don't really have a notebook to fall back on. No, these guys aren't at little Lucas Oil Raceway anymore.
 
Well, on the evidence of that race they should have sent the Nationwide series to IMS long before now....

Got to feel sorry for Eliott Sadler. He didn't jump that restart, just got a good run. And he's penalised anyway. Hope he can bounce back from that.
 
Well, on the evidence of that race they should have sent the Nationwide series to IMS long before now....

Got to feel sorry for Eliott Sadler. He didn't jump that restart, just got a good run. And he's penalised anyway. Hope he can bounce back from that.

Just finished watching it myself, he was being pushed by Dillon anyway.
 
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