2017 car launches

andicole0 · 26 Feb 2017 at 13:01

chriscatt said:
I think they banned the sidepod wings over issues to do with safety, the shark fin probably isn't seen as the same...

I think you're right, pedestrain safety iirc in case a pedestrian stepped out on the race track.

cuke2u · 26 Feb 2017 at 13:06

"X-wings banned for safety reasons
[2-May-1998-20h05 CET] - The FIA has officially banned the sidepod mounted X-wings ("pingouins"), which have sprouted on most cars this season, for safety reasons.
Quoting the case of Jean Alesi (Sauber), who lost one of his X-wings during a pit-stop during the Argentinian Grand Prix, as evidence, the FIA said that these wings were not only dangerous during pit-stops but also had potential to cause injury to the driver or spectators if they were ripped off during a crash. "

MooMoo444 · 26 Feb 2017 at 13:18

That RB looks gooood

Kevin Clark · 26 Feb 2017 at 13:30

oo that's going on there?
Might just be the S-duct intake though

reef · 26 Feb 2017 at 13:37

That actually looks quite basic apart from the tiny sidepods and front nose. I imagine it will be completely different to what is seen at testing and that this is just a very basic spec for the unveiling. If not then its quite underdeveloped compared to the Ferrari and Merc, which I find hard to believe when Newey's involved!

this_is_gav · 26 Feb 2017 at 14:05

reef said:
That actually looks quite basic apart from the tiny sidepods and front nose. I imagine it will be completely different to what is seen at testing and that this is just a very basic spec for the unveiling. If not then its quite underdeveloped compared to the Ferrari and Merc, which I find hard to believe when Newey's involved!

It's odd they would launch the car in a dumbed down state yet leave the one obvious conceptional idea in clear view.

I think both they and McLaren have gone for a low-drag concept this year (though I suppose 'efficient' is a better description than 'low drag'). Bits will be added in testing of course (the Red Bull's barge-boards will surely grow!) but I don't think either are going to sprout as many flaps and appendages as most of the other cars come Melbourne.

Steampunk · 26 Feb 2017 at 15:04

Most of the teams seem to sandbag with their launch car. They turn up at the first race with all sorts of extra bits that they didn't want to show to their competitors.

drunkenmaster · 26 Feb 2017 at 16:23

this_is_gav said:
It's odd they would launch the car in a dumbed down state yet leave the one obvious conceptional idea in clear view.

I think both they and McLaren have gone for a low-drag concept this year (though I suppose 'efficient' is a better description than 'low drag'). Bits will be added in testing of course (the Red Bull's barge-boards will surely grow!) but I don't think either are going to sprout as many flaps and appendages as most of the other cars come Melbourne.

Do people not realise RBR have had a whole in the nose for quite some time? It's just had a grill on it most of the time. It's just, actually was going to say bigger but I'm not sure it is, it's just flipped on it's side, before it was a rectangle with longer sides vertical, now they are horizontal.

I wouldn't be surprised to see it covered with a grill at some point to prevent stuff getting in there, which is presumably why it had a grill before.

Kevin Clark · 26 Feb 2017 at 16:58

They pretty much all have a hole in the end of the nose. It's for cooling the driver and it's usually very blended in to the shape. This is a bit more in your face, suggesting it might be more than just driver cooling.

MissChief · 26 Feb 2017 at 16:59

Probably similar to Force India's nostrils.

Kevin Clark · 26 Feb 2017 at 17:06

Jono8 · 26 Feb 2017 at 17:17

I like that livery^

SS-89 · 26 Feb 2017 at 17:21

Think I preferred last years but it's still better than most!

Duke · 26 Feb 2017 at 17:29

TR looks nice. Newey is trolling big time with the RB lack of detail :cool:

Estimated wheel bases - http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=676969&sid=f17d8dd6c9b745efb6ffba2aeed019c7#p676969
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=676969&sid=f17d8dd6c9b745efb6ffba2aeed019c7#p676969
https://twitter.com/kappa224/status/835431533003616256
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=676969&sid=f17d8dd6c9b745efb6ffba2aeed019c7#p676969
Ferrari: 3463 mm
Mercedes: 3666 mm
Renault: 3584mm

MissChief · 26 Feb 2017 at 18:47

Have to say I quite like the Torro Rosso's paint job. Simple and stylish.

Guerrilla · 26 Feb 2017 at 19:01

Yea liking the TR, looks good.

andicole0 · 26 Feb 2017 at 19:33

The thing I don't like about the TR is having Red Bull on the side.
Andi.

MissChief · 26 Feb 2017 at 20:07

andicole0 said:
The thing I don't like about the TR is having Red Bull on the side.
Andi.

I put up with it because otherwise it would mean one less team and two less cars on the grid.

this_is_gav · 26 Feb 2017 at 20:27

That Toro Rosso is awesome. Livery wise it's like trip back to the 90s.

The McLaren looks far better on track too, but it's still disappointing compared to how good it could have look.

drunkenmaster said:
Do people not realise RBR have had a whole in the nose for quite some time? It's just had a grill on it most of the time. It's just, actually was going to say bigger but I'm not sure it is, it's just flipped on it's side, before it was a rectangle with longer sides vertical, now they are horizontal.

I wouldn't be surprised to see it covered with a grill at some point to prevent stuff getting in there, which is presumably why it had a grill before.

Most cars in my lifetime have had a hole on the nose but that's Pingu.

drunkenmaster · 26 Feb 2017 at 21:11

Kevin Clark said:
They pretty much all have a hole in the end of the nose. It's for cooling the driver and it's usually very blended in to the shape. This is a bit more in your face, suggesting it might be more than just driver cooling.

https://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/164047/f1-redbull-nose-rb10-inline.jpg

I meant like a similarly sized hole, it's just far more hidden on that.

They have holes, they just move then around depending on what else they've got going on under the nose. Some years they have the hole likely on the underside and all but completely hidden. Other years it's right up front.

I'd guess it's back on the nose because with so much more allowed to be in the bargeboard area and under the nose an intake there impedes their other airflow management underneath so better to collect it at the front. Though I'd guess this one is both s-duct and inside the nose separates and sends some to the driver.