2026 Re-build

A lot of people don't ever upgrade their CPU (rarer with AM4, admittedly, since it had great longevity), so if you were going to keep the 5700X3D and 7900 XT (or equivalent, personally I'd only buy the 90 series now) for a significant length of time (2-3+ years) you're potentially just dumping money into AM5 for future gains you may never realise and then be cursing not hanging on for AM6.

It is true that a 5700X3D/5800X3D aren't ideal for much faster cards than the 7900 XT, but you'd possibly need a new CPU by then anyway, even if you were on AM5.
From what im seeing online i might be cooked on the 5700x3d front. It appears that nowhere has stock of it anymore, so im not sure I'll be able to pick one up.

Whats would you recommend if the stock never replenishes as I belive its no longer manufactured?
 
Just get the 5700X3D or 5700X/5800X if you can't get the X3D and a 9070 XT.

You have a solid base for a PC that will still last for quiet a while.

Maybe get another NVME drive for games.
 
Just get the 5700X3D or 5700X/5800X if you can't get the X3D and a 9070 XT.

You have a solid base for a PC that will still last for quiet a while.

Maybe get another NVME drive for games.
As its highly unlikely im going to be bale to find a 5700X3D is the next best option the 5800X?

OC had the 9070XT which i can order and 5800X, but I cant find a x3d anywhere in stock
 
As its highly unlikely im going to be bale to find a 5700X3D is the next best option the 5800X?

OC had the 9070XT which i can order and 5800X, but I cant find a x3d anywhere in stock
I should have added to get the CPU second hand, the X3D you have no choice unless you shop in China and Think the 5800X is overpriced now. (unless SH price is near new price)

EDIT

You can get a 5700X for cheaper than the 5800X and you don't lose very much performance.
 
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You won't find this new at present as production has ceased on them (5700x3d and 5800x3d)

If you don't mind getting them used then the usual places sell them
How safe is it getting a CPU second hand?

I had a little look at what's available and this doesn't seem to bad as long as its not just putting a temp solution in place that will need to change about in 12-18months.

OC Cart:

1 X AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail - £199.99
SKU
: CP-3CB-AM

1 X Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 1g - £5.99
SKU
: TH-022-TG

1 X Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £649.99
SKU
: GRA-SPR-03983

Grand Total: £863.96
 
How safe is it getting a CPU second hand?
personally i've not had issues with buying used CPUs and will always buy used items as a first port of call (most of my main and secondary PCs are assembled using used components/bought from china - also no warranty lol)
but as it's the used market, your mileage will vary

1 X Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £649.99
this can be carried on into the new build in the future so i wouldn't see this as a stopgap
and wow this was £560 just 6 weeks ago :/
 
@Cr1tch this chap's just done a similar upgrade too, but to a 9070 (non-xt)
 
As a few others have said, just upgrade the CPU and GPU, rest of your set up is pretty solid and well still be doing well when AM6 is released.

I would probably look for something like the 5600x, 5700x or 5800x if the price is not extortionate or if there is a great deal on an X3D variant take that.

GPU like others have said would be the 9070xt, and sooner rather than later as prices may well rise.

With that I would most likely ignore AM5 until memory pricing hits prices that can be considered normal and not deranged.
 
Following all the help and support you guys have kindly offered I have gone ahead and setup the following basket.

Your Order​

1 X AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail - £199.99
SKU
: CP-3CB-AM

1 X Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 1g - £5.99
SKU
: TH-022-TG

1 X Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £649.99
SKU
: GRA-SPR-03983

Grand Total: £863.96

Before I commit and order I have a couple of additional questions based on my research.

1. Is there much difference in 9070XT Models? (Which is recommended)
2. Are there any available better alternatives from the 5800X with the 57800X3D being unavailable (new)?
- From what I have read the 5800X is good but not great and is an older CPU which can cause bottle necks with the 9070XT not sure if this is correct.

Once again thanks for everyone's input.
 
1. Is there much difference in 9070XT Models? (Which is recommended)
yes there's a difference, no there's not much in it to matter in the grand scheme of things.
the correct answer for most/the average user is normally the base spec version of the card
so, just get the cheapest


2. Are there any available better alternatives from the 5800X with the 57800X3D being unavailable (new)?
no there isn't without doing a full platform swap out

- From what I have read the 5800X is good but not great and is an older CPU which can cause bottle necks with the 9070XT not sure if this is correct.
it depends on the game, but yes it is possible
the X3D is a better choice, but if you are averse to getting a used sample then you don't really have much of a choice
 
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1 X Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £649.99
SKU
: GRA-SPR-03983
It's a shame you missed out on the sale price as it is a very good GPU, but if buying today i would get the cheapest. Be aware though the Gigabyte and Asus need 3 x power cables.
 
I wonder if it will get that low again with the way things are going?

well according to gibbo probably not

If I was to take an educated guess I'd say the market situation is as follows:

5060 - Consistent supply and pricing to remain as is, 5% increase at most. (BF lowest was £219)
5060 Ti 8G - To become new focus part, pricing to remain and expect it to be the SKU you see deals on in coming weeks and popular in SI. (BF lowest was £329)
5060 Ti 16G - Will become insanely scarce and pricing will rocket. (BF lowest was £379)
5070 - Remain in OK supply and expect price increases of 5-10% (BF lowest was £479)
5070 Ti - Will become pretty short on supply and expect prices to jump by around 10-20% (BF lowest was £679)
5080 - Tight supply but should be OK as suspect production from 5070 TI shall shift to 5080, prices up at least 10%. (BF lowest was £929)
5090- Expect to see lots of fancy all dancing OC versions appearing at some sky high pricing and regular priced SKU's will remain near impossible to get hold of in any volume. (BF Lowest, NV FE around £1800, other models £2100)

9060 XT 8G - 10% Price increase with OK supply (BF Lowest £259)
9060 XT 16G - 20% price increase and stock becoming scarce (BF lowest £329)
9070 - 10-20% price increase and stock thin on ground (BF lowest £449)
9070 XT - 10-20% price increases with OK supply. (BF lowest £539)

B570 - Minimum 30% increase (BF lowest £149)
B580 - Minimum 20% increase (BF lowest £195)
 
How safe is it getting a CPU second hand?

I had a little look at what's available and this doesn't seem to bad as long as its not just putting a temp solution in place that will need to change about in 12-18months.

OC Cart:

1 X AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core 4.7GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail - £199.99
SKU
: CP-3CB-AM

1 X Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 1g - £5.99
SKU
: TH-022-TG

1 X Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £649.99
SKU
: GRA-SPR-03983

Grand Total: £863.96
£650 for the pulse is a bit rich when can be had for £630 elesewhere which is still rich..couple are available for £600 (asus prime and xfx swift, or the powercolor reaper for £620)...I like the pulse, don't get me wrong, but not at £650..that's the same price as the pure which is higher clocked and has a bit of rgb on it..the pulse s/b cheaper.
I'd be tempted just to start with the gpu and see how it performs before dropping £200 on a 5800x . As a guide my eldest has my am4 rig at uni and games 4k with the 5800x paired with a 3080FE. I've actually got him a 9070xt nitro to shove in there, but waiting to see how his exams go before handing it over(need some form of incentive) otherwise I could get him to give some fps figures. Just looking at some YT vids, found one looking at the 5800x with the 9070 non xt, and at 1440p on av was 93% gpu bound, 7% cpu bound..so works ok (for my son then the 9070xt paying at 4k, he'll be gpu bottlenecked so 5800x wont be a proble)..
issue then arrises when you then try upscalling....in the vid with FSR4.0 turned on, the 1440 res is then upscaled from 1504x848, and results then show a 44% cpu bound/56 gpu bound ratio as more pressure is pushed onto the cpu..this will be even worse with a 9070xt ...hense why say hold off dropping £200 on the cpu. As you play at 1440P, you may find that the 9070xt still does most of the heavy lifting(certainly would at 4k), in which case you can get away with keeping your 3800x. If not you can then look at the 5800x, just be aware the 5800x with still become a bottleneck as soon as you start enabling upscaling

as for 2nd had cpu's, you do roll the dice. I've bought a 5600x and 32gn ddr4 ram to do a build for a cousin, only for the seller to pack the 5600x back to front in the case, and all the pins were bent(and some broke as i tried to bend them back they were so flattenned), but at the same time bought a 2nd hand 7800x3d for £250 for same said son at uni for a build (and just keep the am4 system at home for my wife). That cpu this in it's box (and as am5 cpu's don't have the pins on the cpu), a lot less chance of something going wrong, so looks all good to me. Recently mucked up on purchasing some 9800x3d for builds and overbought, so prob actually just sell that on along with my other son's 7800x3d at some point (just need to get that one out his pc next time I'm back home in uk)

so don't discount going down 2nd hand route. OCuk have a 2nd hand mktplace but you need 1000 posts to access it..but had success on facebook mktplace...you do need to be a little cautious and know what you want (def some people out there trying to sell stuff to unsuspecting buyers that aren't fully aware of what they're buying)
my quick view, 5700x3d is around £300, 5800x3d is around £400...seeing as a 5800x3d has similar performance to a 7600x (actually overall 7600x edges it but basically equal), and just seen one used one available for £120 used, if lookingat a 5800x3d etc, I'd rather just jump onto am5, even with ddr5 prices...you're paying £280 over a used 7600x, which covers a bulk of the price hikes in ddr5, and so just have the am5 mobo cost(which you'd be paying anyway if upgrading)
 
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