20mph residential speed limit (replacing 30mph)

Rroff said:
Most studies have shown in the longer run the average speed in blanket 20s creeps back up to around 26-28MPH while average speed in 30s is 31. Most longer term studies have shown fatalities of pedestrians reduces quite a bit for the first 2-3 years but then returns to what it used to be in the longer run while cyclist fatalities generally doubles after a few years, probably due to a mixture of the lower limits slightly encouraging more people to cycle and the lower traffic limits making it harder for vehicles to pass cyclists, etc. resulting in more incidents.
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Said this about cycling from the start.
My ebike goes 15mph.
No way to I want a car passing me at a delta of 5mph!
Thw amount of side by side time is too high. The gap for a car to wait to overtake St that speed is just too high.
 
Rroff said:
Most studies have shown in the longer run the average speed in blanket 20s creeps back up to around 26-28MPH while average speed in 30s is 31. Most longer term studies have shown fatalities of pedestrians reduces quite a bit for the first 2-3 years but then returns to what it used to be in the longer run while cyclist fatalities generally doubles after a few years, probably due to a mixture of the lower limits slightly encouraging more people to cycle and the lower traffic limits making it harder for vehicles to pass cyclists, etc. resulting in more incidents.
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Your own argument shows that the problem is ********, who do not have any patience and want to drive however they want, are the problem! "making it harder for vehicles to pass cyclists" If a cyclist is doing 15 in a 20 then have some ******* patience. You, and people like you, just want to be selfish!
 
If you cannot control your car to 20 mph then either you are a crap driver or you have bought a car that has been badly designed. Neither of those issues should be another road users issue.
 
Gabby said:
Your own argument shows that the problem is ********, who do not have any patience and want to drive however they want, are the problem! "making it harder for vehicles to pass cyclists" If a cyclist is doing 15 in a 20 then have some ******* patience. You, and people like you, just want to be selfish!
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Nice trash posting.
 
My motorbike and the last few other motorbikes i owned hate doing only 20mph and are far from smooth at such a low speed

Think this is due to 1st gear on motorbikes these days are geared for such a high speed to keep the front wheel down
I have no idea what speed my bike 1st is geared for, But i heard of some ltr sportbikes where 1st is geared for somewhere between 90mph to over 100mph
 
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Moved out to Surrey after living in Central London and I thought that was bad, but Surrey is even worse, 20mph every other road and speed cameras coupled with dreadful speed bumps oh and potholes.
 
413x said:
Said this about cycling from the start.
My ebike goes 15mph.
No way to I want a car passing me at a delta of 5mph!
Thw amount of side by side time is too high. The gap for a car to wait to overtake St that speed is just too high.
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Could always slow down to let them pass...

Slow moving vehicles should let traffic go by, though it isn't a requirement for cyclists (probably should be, being the slowest thing with wheels on the road).
 
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Nasher said:
Could always slow down to let them pass...

Slow moving vehicles should let traffic go by, though it isn't a requirement for cyclists (probably should be, being the slowest thing with wheels on the road).
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And you’ll be overtaken again at the next set of lights in a 20mph zone.

Generally, if you are on an ebike (or can pedal a ‘manual’ bike as quickly, you’ll probably making a lot more progress through a town/city than a car.
 
Nasher said:
Could always slow down to let them pass...

Slow moving vehicles should let traffic go by, though it isn't a requirement for cyclists (probably should be, being the slowest thing with wheels on the road).
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So cars should slow down and get out of my way in 20mph zones when Im on my bicycle? Yeah I didnt think so
 
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As a cyclist I usually glance behind at motorist, even move over a bit, to give an indication when I am happy for them to overtake and there is sufficient space,
worst thing as a motorist is blinkered cyclists who show no awareness.

speed cameras in 20's - the police, in Wales, at least, had said there was an introductory period set at 26mph, so shouldn't have a false sense of security if you are driving old speeds.
 
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