2900XT or 640GTS?

xtr3eme · 18 Jun 2007 at 11:14

Gerard said:
These gts cards don't seem to be lasting you any length of time.

my 8800's didnt last me that long either mate...

willhub · 18 Jun 2007 at 11:16

xtr3eme said:
my 8800's didnt last me that long either mate...

How many did you go through?

Gerard, that 8800GTS does 620/1.96ghz fine, overclock it abit more

Gerard · 18 Jun 2007 at 11:20

willhub said:
Gerard, that 8800GTS does 620/1.96ghz fine, overclock it abit more

Prefer to keep iot clocked down a bit, especially inside the shuttle where airflow is almost non existant.

xtr3eme · 18 Jun 2007 at 11:22

willhub said:
How many did you go through?

Gerard, that 8800GTS does 620/1.96ghz fine, overclock it abit more

i had a sparkle 8800GTX on release that had the faulty resister so it broke not long after 2 weeks of having it, i then got a replacement which i had for 2 months before i got sick of crap drivers from Nvidia. I then got a X1900XT for a stop gap and then a 8800GTS 320MB XXX had that for 2 months before selling it for this 2900XT.

I am now more than happy with this 2900XT

willhub · 18 Jun 2007 at 11:23

Gerard said:
Prefer to keep iot clocked down a bit, especially inside the shuttle where airflow is almost non existant.

Whats your idle / load? I got 55/84 with that card, my new 8800 at 650/2.2ghz gets 55/77.

xtr3eme said:
i had a sparkle 8800GTX on release that had the faulty resister so it broke not long after 2 weeks of having it, i then got a replacement which i had for 2 months before i got sick of crap drivers from Nvidia. I then got a X1900XT for a stop gap and then a 8800GTS 320MB XXX had that for 2 months before selling it for this 2900XT.

I am now more than happy with this 2900XT

Lmao, and I thought I was bad with keeping cards haha.

xtr3eme · 18 Jun 2007 at 11:26

willhub said:
Lmao, and I thought I was bad with keeping cards haha.

willhub · 18 Jun 2007 at 11:34

xtr3eme said:

If champ goes back on the swap I'll be crying

, not litrally lol. but I hope its my last change in graphics for a while

knowledge123 · 18 Jun 2007 at 11:45

Gerard said:
The results i got were as follows (all vista 64)

What resolution and image settings were they?

Gerard · 18 Jun 2007 at 11:47

knowledge123 said:
What resolution and image settings were they?

1920x1200

4xfsaa 16x af

game settings maxed

SS-89 · 18 Jun 2007 at 11:54

:O well that shows the 2900 outperforming the 8800 in all but HL2, very impressive figures especially at that res and AA/AF. Was the 2900 OCed?

the_champ_101 · 18 Jun 2007 at 12:15

Gerard said:
Doing fine, still miss my 2900 though

The results i got were as follows (all vista 64)

Company of Heroes Performance Test (demo version): Average 43,6 Min 17.4, Max 121.5 (x1900xt)

Company of Heroes Performance Test (demo version): Average 64.6, Min 30.5, Max 180.9 (2900xt)

Company of Heroes Performance Test (demo version): Average 41.0, Min 22.7, Max 140.4 (8800gts stock)

Company of Heroes Performance Test (demo version): Average 51.6, Min 24.9, Max 162.1 (8800gts oc 600\1800)DX 9

Company of Heroes Performance Test (retail version): Average 20.7, Min 11.1, Max 39.9 (8800gts oc 600\1800) DX10

Fear Performance Test: Average 42, Min 19, Max 95 (x1900xt)

Fear Performance Test: Average 51, Min 18 Max 99 (2900xt)

Fear Performance Test: Average 36, Min 19 Max 91 (8800gts stock)

Fear Performance Test: Average 42, Min 22 Max 99 (8800gts oc 6001\800)

Vista timedemo results:

Doom 3 54.2 fps (x1900xt)

Doom 3 70.5fps (2900xt)

Doom 3 57.8fps (8800gts stock)

Doom 3 61.3fps (8800gts oc 600\1800)

Half Life 2 Lost coast stress test 70.8fps (average) (x1900xt)

Half Life 2 Lost coast stress test 70.17fps (average) (2900xt)

Half Life 2 Lost coast stress test 71.61fps (average) (8800gts stock)

Half Life 2 Lost coast stress test 74.5fps (average) (8800gts oc 600/1800)

Before we get to what I think about the swap lets talk about these, you say they are running at 1920 x 1200, I say they all must be compromised settings on the 2900 i.e. low or no AA & AF, no HDR, Obviously no VSync, also looks very much like calculated guess and made up scores judging by the figures and comparisons. If the 2900 is so good why would I even contemplate in changing?

Gerard · 18 Jun 2007 at 12:20

the_champ_101 said:
Before we get to what I think about the swap lets talk about these, you say they are running at 1920 x 1200, I say they all must be compromised settings on the 2900 i.e. low or no AA & AF, no HDR, Obviously no VSync, also looks very much like calculated guess and made up scores judging by the figures and comparisons. If the 2900 is so good why would I even contemplate in changing?

Made up scores my arse, ive had both cards, i benched the 2900 when i had it then done the same with the gts when i got it. Wtf would i benefit from faking scores of a card i no longer have?

Gerard · 18 Jun 2007 at 12:20

SS-89 said:
:O well that shows the 2900 outperforming the 8800 in all but HL2, very impressive figures especially at that res and AA/AF. Was the 2900 OCed?

Nope stock settings.

the_champ_101 · 18 Jun 2007 at 12:33

Now to the swap, Will you seem like an honest person with a good reputation on here, better than me anyway. I can understand your doubts about me as I have the same feelings, The 2900 has improved slightly with the 7.5 and Valve have fixed the DOD fog which was one of my main performance concerns.
Weighing everything up I think we should halt this as it's a lot of hassle and risk without much gain, both cards are up and down and there's not an overall winner, the reason I wanted to swap was mainly down to the noise/heat/power issue but I decided I'm going to get the Maze block and water cool it, that should be the solution for me as it wipes out the problems that come with this card while being able to overclock and surpass the GTS's performance, around 825/2050 should do the trick.
I'll just keep this thing until the G92 comes out and see what the next generation brings.

Will you should do the same as it's clear now nothing is going to be gained apart from testing the relevant card in the swap and I pretty much know what the GTS is capable of anyway, if you like the Ram offer is still there for whenever you want.

the_champ_101 · 18 Jun 2007 at 12:36

Gerard said:
Made up scores my arse, ive had both cards, i benched the 2900 when i had it then done the same with the gts when i got it. Wtf would i benefit from faking scores of a card i no longer have?

So judging by that sentence you've currently got a GTS right? why would that be if you think the 2900 is so much better? Ok how would you benefit from these fabrications? simple, it's what a AMD/ATI fan boy do.

the_champ_101 · 18 Jun 2007 at 12:39

Fine ok the 2900 is so great and getting ever better, I must have made the right choice, end of story :rolleyes:

killer_uk · 18 Jun 2007 at 12:39

the_champ_101 said:
So judging by that sentence you've currently got a GTS right? why would that be if you think the 2900 is so much better? Ok how would you benefit from these fabrications? simple, it's what a AMD/ATI fan boy do.

I, for one, and there are probably plenty of other people here are fed up of you complaining about the ATI card. If you don't like it, get rid of it and get a GTS, just shut up complaining.

Gerard · 18 Jun 2007 at 12:40

the_champ_101 said:
So judging by that sentence you've currently got a GTS right? why would that be if you think the 2900 is so much better? Ok how would you benefit from these fabrications? simple, it's what a AMD/ATI fan boy do.

OK mr "steam game expert"

The reason i got the gts was the shuttle psu wasn't up to handling the 2900xt at load for long periods of time, some games would run fine, others would totally shut down the computer after 8 or 9 minutes play.

SS-89 · 18 Jun 2007 at 12:54

the_champ_101 said:
So judging by that sentence you've currently got a GTS right? why would that be if you think the 2900 is so much better? Ok how would you benefit from these fabrications? simple, it's what a AMD/ATI fan boy do.

How do we know you actually have a 2900? Maybe you actually have an 8800gts and simply **** the 2900 for the hell of it and no one would really question it as you 'own' one. Hey will thats why he doesn't want to send the card because he doesnt actually have one

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lol just kidding.

willhub · 18 Jun 2007 at 13:24

Well i'm putting money in the bank, selling this 8800GTS and getting a HD2900XT now I know which one is better.

the_champ_101 said:
So judging by that sentence you've currently got a GTS right? why would that be if you think the 2900 is so much better? Ok how would you benefit from these fabrications? simple, it's what a AMD/ATI fan boy do.

If your ever change your mind about swapping then i'm ready, this GTS can be boxed up any day and shipped off.