30/11 Strikes.

Erm, what?

By using a % income based approach, you ensure that everyone pays the same proportion of income for the same services, and the rich subsidise the poor...

No, he's pointing out that it would end up as a two tier system because the savvy and intelligent - who will generally be richer anyway - will sit down and ensure they get the best value bin man, whilst the majority, who can probably ill afford to, will not bother and end up with default provision.
 
"for the same services"?

This isn't what your posts suggest.

Well, same minimum service and type, which provider they chose to use for the service, and whether they offered additional services for the same 'cost' is up to them.
 
[TW]Fox;20683164 said:
No, he's pointing out that it would end up as a two tier system because the savvy and intelligent - who will generally be richer anyway - will sit down and ensure they get the best value bin man, whilst the majority, who can probably ill afford to, will not bother and end up with default provision.

If the default provision is poor, why lumber everyone with it without any choice?
 
[TW]Fox;20683199 said:
Why not lumber everyone with a default provision thats excellent?

Do you have specific criticisms of your current council refuse collection?

I wouldn't say it is excellent, adequate at best, and could probably be provided better. It is hard to tell when no alternative is permitted.

Specific criticisms would be around sporadic collection and inconsistent timings...
 
I wouldn't say it is excellent, adequate at best, and could probably be provided better. It is hard to tell when no alternative is permitted.

Specific criticisms would be around sporadic collection and inconsistent timings...

In which case complain to your elected representative. It's what they are there for.
 
Blurgh its official my uni is shut tomorrow. Not impressed at all as my lecturers who are part of the union do a terrible job and are not even qualified to get a teachers pension @_@

Worse still my idiot students union is supporting the strike action directly by picketing with the staff. Not impressed as this is just protectionism of the few with decent pensions and not a fight to make the state pension any better for everyone.

The unions striking are just as greedy as the idiot bankers and I'm suffering by having more forced days closure of university time that I have already payed for.

Not impressed
 
I wouldn't say it is excellent, adequate at best, and could probably be provided better.

Don't be obtuse.

His point is excellent - "excellence" - yet again you are caught out being your negative self wanting to pull the walls down with you because of it.

Specific criticisms would be around sporadic collection and inconsistent timings...

Timings? Can't say I am that uninterested in everything else in life to notice when the bin man comes.
 
[TW]Fox;20682967 said:
Yes, because like it or not in this country of almost 70 million people, quite a large proportion of them are the average person and a scary proportion are the below average. They would be quite capable of ending up with a pile of stinking rubbish in the garden because they simply couldn't be arsed to tear themselves away from I'm a Celeb long enough to allocate some of the personal budget towards waste collection.

Word has it that as many as 50% of people are below average.
 
I wouldn't say it is excellent, adequate at best, and could probably be provided better. It is hard to tell when no alternative is permitted.

Specific criticisms would be around sporadic collection and inconsistent timings...

Why would you possibly care if they turn up at 9am, 10am or 2pm?

No sporadic collection here - same day every time, with the obvious except of when they are all standing around in donkey jackets moaning about pensions, of course.

Or perhaps when they take a day off to go and spend the hugely generous salary they obviously get on a new Ferrari, or something.
 
On a slightly, if no less pertinent point to the thread, I find it funny that George Osbourne has stated that tomorrows strike will be 'inconvenient to millions of people'.

I would suggest that it means:

  1. Perhaps the public sector does do some good (no, really!!); and
  2. He doesn't realise that striking is meant to disrupt!
 
In which case complain to your elected representative. It's what they are there for.

You assume that my elected representative is in some way useful. I do contact her with concerns, but she is hopeless. Classics have included 'the opinion of ministers is more important than scientific evidence' and 'You can't criticise services when they don't do what they promise because the staff will be upset'...
 
Blurgh its official my uni is shut tomorrow. Not impressed at all as my lecturers who are part of the union do a terrible job and are not even qualified to get a teachers pension @_@

Worse still my idiot students union is supporting the strike action directly by picketing with the staff. Not impressed as this is just protectionism of the few with decent pensions and not a fight to make the state pension any better for everyone.

The unions striking are just as greedy as the idiot bankers and I'm suffering by having more forced days closure of university time that I have already payed for.

Not impressed

Letting things get worse for some is hardly going to make it better for all.

A race to the bottom is not desirable.
 
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You assume that my elected representative is in some way useful. I do contact her with concerns, but she is hopeless. Classics have included 'the opinion of ministers is more important than scientific evidence' and 'You can't criticise services when they don't do what they promise because the staff will be upset'...

Then exercise your voting rights elsewhere as is your democratic right.

If you believe you can do a better job then step up to the plate. There's no pension for local councillors though and the "financial compensation" is still poor.
 
You assume that my elected representative is in some way useful. I do contact her with concerns, but she is hopeless. Classics have included 'the opinion of ministers is more important than scientific evidence' and 'You can't criticise services when they don't do what they promise because the staff will be upset'...

Special pleading I'm afraid.

;)

Care to offer any context in any event? Maybe it's just you?
 
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