30/11 Strikes.

[Ahleckz]

I notice many of you with the most conservative views have pictures of flash cars in your sigs.

More utter nonsense and lies from the left. Rotty is the only one who has posted recently who has a flash car in his signature, and he's worked hard and made sacrificies I'm sure to get where he has. He hasn't been out demanding someone else pays for hs car, and his lifestyle. He's gone out and got it himself.

I'm a Conservataive supporter (paid up and everything) and I live in a poor area, have a crap job and could no way afford a car.

 

[shoes]

i love some of the comments on the strikes:

"You private sector employees are simply jealous. Your bonuses and perks have dried up, pensions are worthless due to incompetence and poor investment. The majority of you couldn't get a public sector job because you are too thick. Now get back to washing dishes or whatever else you do, and leave us to keep the country running"

Its worrying to think these people may be doing essential services. It makes their argument even more invalid given that there was no major disruptions yesterday other than schools half closing.

What the... I don't even....arghhhh what is wrong with these people ?!?!?!?!?!?!

******* idiots.

Sack them all - we have 3M unemployed - force them into their jobs, make these whingy, whiney, lazy, greedy, ****wit ****holes suffer, they are a blight on our country and need knocking down a peg or two.

Where on earth do they think the money for public sector spending actually comes from?!

Left wingers, socialists, liberals do my head in - what is wrong with them?

 

[do_ron_ron]

Yeah erm he might not have been being literal you know.

Clarkson has a history of comments over the years that are offensive. If he was not a media darling he would have had several visits from the police.

Anybody else you could make excuses for but he has a history. I see the BBC has apologised.

 

[DiCe!]

Or get a backbone and challenge it?

that is such a crap attitude. So very union.

times are hard now while almost everyone in the private sector is just getting on with it the unions throw in the RISE UP BROTHERS AND SISTERS rubbish.

Childlike from the unions striking tbh, I cant remember when striking has been called off because a "better deal" has been accepted. the unions love a good strike.

 

[Dolph]

What the... I don't even....arghhhh what is wrong with these people ?!?!?!?!?!?!

******* idiots.

Sack them all - we have 3M unemployed - force them into their jobs, make these whingy, whiney, lazy, greedy, ****wit ****holes suffer, they are a blight on our country and need knocking down a peg or two.

Where on earth do they think the money for public sector spending actually comes from?!

Left wingers, socialists, liberals do my head in - what is wrong with them?

<-- Liberal.

Are you confusing social democrat with Liberal?

 

[Deleted member 66701]

Balls advised Brown for years, including when Britain was running a defecit during boom years and when borrowing was rampant. While some may have a short memory, I don't.

I didn't say he impressed me then, I'm saying he's impressing me now.

 

[shoes]

<-- Liberal.

Are you confusing social democrat with Liberal?

You're a liberal?

Thank you for your contribution in destroying our country. Well done. I hope you're proud.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

that is such a crap attitude. So very union.

times are hard now while almost everyone in the private sector is just getting on with it the unions throw in the RISE UP BROTHERS AND SISTERS rubbish.

Childlike from the unions striking tbh, I cant remember when striking has been called off because a "better deal" has been accepted. the unions love a good strike.

It's always easier to run and hid, isn't it?

 

[Robbo]

These unions are just like a load of sulking children really. They don't get what they want (and shouldn't have anyway) so have a fit about it instead.

I hope the government stand firm against them, they'll give up eventually with any luck.

 

[bam0]

edit: also, it's unfortunately the case that people are paid based on the demand for their services, and the skill that goes into providing those services (the difficulty of the job in other words). I know many people hate bankers, politicians, solicitors etc, but they are all bloody hard jobs that are generally difficult to get into in the first place, require a lot of knowledge, a very good educational background, and have a lot of pressure on a daily basis.

You didn't exactly pick good examples there, politics and solicitors are both effectively closed markets. You aren't going to get in either just because you work hard or are skilled at it, without party support (and money) you have virtually no chance in politics, and to qualify and practice as a solicitor you effectively have to apprentice and there are a fixed number of spots available, just like the old archaic guilds really. But then if legal jobs were really an open market the price they could charge would come down and they couldn't abide that.

 

[Dolph]

You're a liberal?

Thank you for your contribution in destroying our country. Well done. I hope you're proud.

I'm a classical Liberal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

Don't confuse this with the social democracy often (especially in the UK) confused with Liberalism.

 

[Dolph]

It's always easier to run and hid, isn't it?

You're yet to explain how, in a competitive as opposed to forceful market, excessive pay and conditions leads to anything other than redundancy, business failure, and in the event that all companies go down this path, market sector decline...

 

[dirtydog]

I didn't say he impressed me then, I'm saying he's impressing me now.

Why is he? Because he is dishonestly suggesting there is a better alternative than what the Tories are doing?

Because he spouts the outright LIE that the Tories are cutting spending too quickly and too deeply?

 

[anything I don't mind]

I think this episode is a great case for changing the way democracy works.

I think that government workers or contractors or anyone that is on the receiving end of any sort of government budget. Be it national or at the council level. Should not have the right to vote.

Giving government beneficiaries the right to vote is a conflict of interest and will ultimately lead to the bankruptcy of the government and the destruction of the productive half of the economy.

I would also consider removing the right to vote for all people on welfare. The only people that should have the right to vote are tax paying British citizens of birth that do not work in the public sector. This would end the conflict of interest and give justice to the term, public servant.

 

[DiCe!]

It's always easier to run and hid, isn't it?

HA.

I didnt say anything about running and hiding, I hate the way that rather than actually negotiate/concede some points the unions stick to things that will never change, then throw in the "they offer us nothing...NOTHING!"

strike strike strike!

 

[jgreen726]

Overall I’m a liberal; however my experience of unions and the public sector mentality does not fit with my core values.
I hate unions, I have worked in and around manufacturing for years and as a consequence I have had a lot of incident to 'work' with these humans (just look at people like Bob Crow). They are all bent and on the take, all of them without fail are more interested in causing an issue and proving a point rather than using common sense and being reasonable.
I have also worked in the public sector for a while and hated it, full of lazy jobs worth’s that would rather see the whole thing fail that put themselves out.
While the whole of the rest of the developed world is having similar issues we of course think we are special and we should not have to suffer for our years of greed and a 'the world owes me a living' mentality. In Portgual for example the public sector have taken a pay cut and everyone else has paid more tax for a while to get 'their' country back on track (imagine that in the UK, people making a sacrifice for others LOL)....what will we do...take a day off to go shopping and cost the country millions whilst still negotiating??!??!?.
Unions and lazy people are another reason why this country is going down the toilet. It makes my blood boil.

Also yes 'I am alright jack' and is this due to me being lucky or deserving a living. No it’s because I work hard and have the right attitude. I had crap jobs too by the way, jobs where the company take advantage of me and treats me like crap….what did I do, I looked for something else.

Get back to work and stop moaning, on the plus side thanks for the nice empty roads yesterday, I managed to get to work a little early and got a load done!

 

[DiCe!]

Get back to work and stop moaning, on the plus side thanks for the nice empty roads yesterday, I managed to get to work a little early and got a load done!

It was lovely wasnt it? I would have loved to have debated this more yesterday....but you know.....I was at work.....earning a living.....paying into my pension that I might never see.....

Personally I think strikes are always a desperate measure.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

I didn't say he impressed me then, I'm saying he's impressing me now.

He can say what he likes in opposition though. Tax cut here, borrow more there. Easier said than done I dare say.

 

[jgreen726]

It was lovely wasnt it? I would have loved to have debated this more yesterday....but you know.....I was at work.....earning a living.....paying into my pension that I might never see.....

Personally I think strikes are always a desperate measure.

Top man, thanks for paying into my pension etc. too I appreciate it.

Also as the government saved a load on salaries yesterday could this be used for something useful?

Love the sig Von Smallhausen.

 

[Robbo]

He can say what he likes in opposition though. Tax cut here, borrow more there. Easier said than done I dare say.

Exactly. I can't believe people struggle to understand this (let alone actually believe it), the opposition are always going to promise things they could never in a million years deliver on.