300 GBP tops and insane audio... though it will destroy your neighbours sanity.
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I love the look of the Mission's, suits the setup overall IMO.I repurposed my old Mission m72s as well recently. Owned from new since about 2003. I used to have the whole m72 surround setup but sold off the front and rears. In my lounge now I have a very low profile (wife friendly) 5.1 setup using Kef T series on the wall and a BK sub hidden away.
These old speakers still sound great. They've survived many a house move despite taking damage externally later touched up. I still have the speaker grills for mine somewhere but think they look better without. For a while they gathered dust in my loft as I just couldn't be doing with yet another bulky, power sapping leftover AVR or Class A/B amp in my summer house/office. Then I came across these class D small 2.0 or 2.1 amps out there. After reading a load of reviews (none are perfect) I settled on this little Loxjie A30 amp. At half volume the m72s absolutely sing more than loud enough to fill the whole shed and the garden if I open the doors, let alone near field stuff, all whilst consuming under 2 watts. Yes I mean when in use 2 watts not standby. Better than any cheap "PC speaker" setup imo.
I've been considering looking at inverting them (as in upside down) to raise the height of the tweeters nearer to my ears, but not sure if the sound field has been designed to have the woofer below the tweeter. May also get some stands. I know they are not perfect being up in a corner and not pointed in perfectly but to me they sound ace and I'm quite happy with them. I have not bunged up the rear ports as I don't run a sub with these and enjoy them dropping and booming as listen to bass heavy stuff sometimes.
The amp does bluetooth if I want, and is connected via usb to a hub/switch which is shared between laptop and desktop. Also has aux input hooked into the echo for Alexa streaming and multiroom duties.
What do you think about running them upside down and/or getting some stands to raise them slightly? Would change the mission logo to match.
I am reading this article.
The main speakers under the TV are sealed enclosures.
My sub is ported.
https://studiodevices.com/room-acoustics/
It seems to make sense to me that the subwoofer adds a lot of bass build up. Even though the subwoofer is not exactly in a corner.
The main speakers under the TV are sealed enclosures.
My sub is ported.
https://studiodevices.com/room-acoustics/
It seems to make sense to me that the subwoofer adds a lot of bass build up. Even though the subwoofer is not exactly in a corner.
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+1 on that.
Main speakers with sub off and no added bass / treble. Their natural sound from this DOUK amp.
Snowball, the recording is much more balanced but to my ears I hear zero bass.
In some parts I do hear distortion, this is the mic not the speakers, I played it a tiny bit too loud.
Snowball, the recording is much more balanced but to my ears I hear zero bass.
In some parts I do hear distortion, this is the mic not the speakers, I played it a tiny bit too loud.
Mains with 1/4 bass boost on DOUK, same volume issue causing some mic distortion.
Sounds like the speakers are swimming, I may remove the stuffing I applied inside of the boxes, may be causing this issue.
The swimming effect is not reproducible to my ears, might be a positioning issue.
The swimming effect is not reproducible to my ears, might be a positioning issue.
Mains stacked together vertically in middle of the rear wall, swimming effect is reduced.
The factor last here is that this room is essentially a square meaning audio bounces really easily.
The factor last here is that this room is essentially a square meaning audio bounces really easily.
Ok, I placed my ear next to the speaker and some of that track is not playing as cleanly as I previously thought, though it is not easy to notice.
The part where the drums hit and that *tat tat tat* "It's like a dream" distorts and muddies, I am now changing up my source delivery to see what I can do.
The part where the drums hit and that *tat tat tat* "It's like a dream" distorts and muddies, I am now changing up my source delivery to see what I can do.
The neoteck DAC I am using was being fed a signal through coaxial and I used a standard RCA lead which is not a coaxial cable and thin, that was my issue. Over optical directly from the XBOX One X the issue vanished.
I do exactly the same, allows the speaker to be raised from desk that reduces resonance, but still keeps tweeter near ear level. It's all experimentation try yourself and see what you prefer.
As you mention sound fields, I'm using Russ Andrews focus rings to reduce off axis reflection and can confirm they make a subtle improvement to sound.
https://www.russandrews.com/focus-rings/
BTW What is the bulletin board code for posting those small thumbnail images, I have searched and can't find it.
Looks a little ugly, but every single thing done is to improve sound quality. To improve things more the next stage would be isolation foam on the wall behind the speaker, but at least speakers are front ported.
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I do exactly the same, allows the speaker to be raised from desk that reduces resonance, but still keeps tweeter near ear level. It's all experimentation try yourself and see what you prefer.
BTW What is the bulletin board code for posting those small thumbnail images, I have searched and can't find it.
Looks a little ugly, but every single thing done is to improve sound quality.
Code:
[url=https://postimg.cc/xN0CnKNj][img]https://i.postimg.cc/xN0CnKNj/Screenshot-2022-01-17-101444.jpg[/img][/url]This is the code supplied by the people I upload with to thumnail and works here. Although im now interested as well looking at those images
All I can say guys is.. I am so glad I don't do professional audio or try to record... recording is far far different to listening.
That pretty much sums it up. It's so difficult to try and show audio quality in a video where mic quality differs so much etc. It's interesting though when I was a lot younger I remember hooking up my alpine amps, sub and power cap to my home audio for "fun". What it really did is shook the house a ridiculous amount and caused the attached at the time neighbour to threaten to kill me. Funny enough my mum bless her didnt let me keep them in the house for very long.
That's gotta be 20 years ago now so this thread is basically a nostalgia trip for days where you spent £200 quid on a car then 4k on its sound system
On the subject of detailed music.
I understand this is not everyone's type of music, however go and find the track 'I need to be in love' from The Carpenters Gold album, original NOT the later Royal Philharmonic version, check to hear for the foot pedal from the piano leaking into the voice microphone.
If you can hear the foot pedal being operated then you probably have good detail and revelling audio.
I understand this is not everyone's type of music, however go and find the track 'I need to be in love' from The Carpenters Gold album, original NOT the later Royal Philharmonic version, check to hear for the foot pedal from the piano leaking into the voice microphone.
If you can hear the foot pedal being operated then you probably have good detail and revelling audio.
Not sure that holds any value as a test tbh, I can hear that on a phone speaker via the YouTube Music upload.
I have been using the Pioneer VSX 2014i, the only thing I can say this AVR does better than the douk is give better granular volume control, more options to wire up audio sources.
I have not had to use my heater with it plugged in though, nice in the winter.
I have also hooked up the Denon FC-103 speakers, these are proper hi-fi speakers, they go down to around 45hz or so.
They usually come as a hi-fi package and were hi end high street equipment.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133920435479?hash=item1f2e47ad17:g:BSAAAOSwlMhhGTO0
The high's are not as harsh as the Focal Auditor speakers, but they are also less able to keep up with such a powerful subwoofer so the sub is now tuned for the denon's and the amp is running with the crossover at 40hz rather than 100hz where the subwoofer was covering the whole lower end.
The Denon's bass is excellent, they are great speakers if you want a rich full sound, they are not accurate but they are a step up from the speakers I was using before if you don't have something to output bass.
I will say the subwoofer does better dedicated to lower bass rather than mid's, but it did really well.
I could always repurpose the focal's and do a quad stereo setup.
The Focal's would be awesome dedicated to just high's, they are made for that kind of output it seems.
Also of note you hear the bass drop better with the sub separated from the mids.... especially under 40hz.. awesome.
Edit... anyone seen these before? These intrigue me as they have the coaxial design of a car speaker but with a separate woofer...
These are Denon SC-M7's
I have not had to use my heater with it plugged in though, nice in the winter.
I have also hooked up the Denon FC-103 speakers, these are proper hi-fi speakers, they go down to around 45hz or so.
They usually come as a hi-fi package and were hi end high street equipment.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133920435479?hash=item1f2e47ad17:g:BSAAAOSwlMhhGTO0
The high's are not as harsh as the Focal Auditor speakers, but they are also less able to keep up with such a powerful subwoofer so the sub is now tuned for the denon's and the amp is running with the crossover at 40hz rather than 100hz where the subwoofer was covering the whole lower end.
The Denon's bass is excellent, they are great speakers if you want a rich full sound, they are not accurate but they are a step up from the speakers I was using before if you don't have something to output bass.
I will say the subwoofer does better dedicated to lower bass rather than mid's, but it did really well.
I could always repurpose the focal's and do a quad stereo setup.
The Focal's would be awesome dedicated to just high's, they are made for that kind of output it seems.
Also of note you hear the bass drop better with the sub separated from the mids.... especially under 40hz.. awesome.
Edit... anyone seen these before? These intrigue me as they have the coaxial design of a car speaker but with a separate woofer...
These are Denon SC-M7's
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Whilst your enthusiasm makes me smile, there’s a whole industry out there building some genuinely ace kit.
The Denon speakers were how much, £100?
On hifi terms that’s very much entry level.
If you want some genuine context, go visit a decent dealer and have a listen to some of their better systems.
Whilst your enthusiasm makes me smile, there’s a whole industry out there building some genuinely ace kit.
The Denon speakers were how much, £100?
On hifi terms that’s very much entry level.
If you want some genuine context, go visit a decent dealer and have a listen to some of their better systems.