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3080 with a refund v 3090 with a premium

Noalcastor said:
I had thought of that but a few issues pertain. One I’m now out of hospital so have access to my PC again and secondly as I understand it 4000 series likely to be early next year only and at that likely to be 4090 and potentially in immediately short supply
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We're only around 2 months away from new cards.
 
Noalcastor said:
I had thought of that but a few issues pertain. One I’m now out of hospital so have access to my PC again and secondly as I understand it 4000 series likely to be early next year only and at that likely to be 4090 and potentially in immediately short supply
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If you want a gpu now, I would agree with what others have said that a 3080 12Gb is a more cost effective buy than a 3090, https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...dr6x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-483-as.html
 
Bill Turnip said:
Possibly, but I wouldn't be shocked to see delays
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This seems to be the fresh talk from the popular influencers. They could be on about the top tier only which would be good as the main amount of buyers should be after mid-tier. The worrying thing is if they have been told about the mid-tier being delayed by their sources or AIB's as that would mean pushing cards like the 4070 into 2023. With nVidia also cancelling a lot of their wafer allocation isn't a great sign (which could compliment why we are hearing of delays).
 
That’s what I understood the position to be. When I built the rig I intended to put a 2080ti in it only to be convinced I should hold off for 3080 so I am reluctant to hold off again
 
gpuerrilla said:
This seems to be the fresh talk from the popular influencers. They could be on about the top tier only which would be good as the main amount of buyers should be after mid-tier. The worrying thing is if they have been told about the mid-tier being delayed by their sources or AIB's as that would mean pushing cards like the 4070 into 2023. With nVidia also cancelling a lot of their wafer allocation isn't a great sign (which could compliment why we are hearing of delays).
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Interesting. I'm not really basing my opinion on rumour, but more the fact that so many things have been delayed or cancelled over the last year or two, we do not seem to have actually got to pre-pandemic levels again yet. At the same time, the state of a lot of western economies are currently deteriorating which will increase prices as things will need to be bought from countries that actually make the items - The delay could end up being for economic rather than stock issues to ensure a target price is met in line with profit targets.

A lot of pricing and performance rumours do not seem to take into account the fact that the world has changed quite considerably since the release of this gen, and certainly the gen before that. This is all opinion based on no fact whatsoever but if you need a gpu, you could end up waiting longer than expected for the next gen, and for more money than anticipated.

What could be interesting is if either AMD or nVidia delay, that is a next gen open goal for the other. Whether they can both avoid delays is another matter though.
 
I also think that lots of people upgraded to a 30 series card and a smaller % to a 6000. When this is the reality, unless some amazing ability comes with the Ada/7000 cards - most people wont need to upgrade. This would mimic the Turing era where the cards were quite expensive and the demand for them was deflated. What we have now got to absorb is the new spoke in the wheel of launches is the scalper. While it was probably about for all previous gens, scalpers are in to any market now and they made big bank during the Ampere gen..
 
Don't disagree with any of that. Also why I think OP should stick with 3080 for the money - a 3090 isn't hugely faster for games, and the money saved can go potentially towards an upgrade later if required.

Gives the potential to get in right at the beginning of the upgrade cycle, and if that happens a scalping is an issue, the 3080 will more than likely retain a higher percentage of its value. If they can't get a 4xxx/7xxx cars at the beginning, they are still sitting on a more than capable gpu with no games on the horizon that look to destroy it.
 
Bill Turnip said:
Don't disagree with any of that. Also why I think OP should stick with 3080 for the money - a 3090 isn't hugely faster for games, and the money saved can go potentially towards an upgrade later if required.

Gives the potential to get in right at the beginning of the upgrade cycle, and if that happens a scalping is an issue, the 3080 will more than likely retain a higher percentage of its value. If they can't get a 4xxx/7xxx cars at the beginning, they are still sitting on a more than capable gpu with no games on the horizon that look to destroy it.
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Yes, only take I have on this gen now is - right at the beginning there were no 12GB or Ti versions to choose. Now that you want to rule out odd game behaviour, be able to play custom textures like Skyrim, or have some piece of mind when using DLSS later down the line it will last and play well without any VRAM concern on most displays (1440p and 4k). As the 12GB models are on offer and very near to the original 3080 if I had to buy right now that would be my choice. I would also be considering the regular 6900 as unless your well into ray tracing the performance and price on these is pretty strong.

On OcUK the palit 10Gb is the same price as the Zotac 12Gb for example. Looks like £50 difference on the markets but no doubt if you can shop about you could get a 12GB for the same budget.
 
6900xt is coming down rapidly, could be a very good option for similar money. Depends what offer OP can get on the 12gb to say if its worth it, but it certainly wouldn't hurt.
 
I mean if we were this spoiled back in December 2020 both these cards (12GB 3080 and the 6900XT) for under £800 would have been awesome!
 
Thanks for the advice. The majority opinion seems to be forget the 3090. Is the 3080ti at about £250 worth considering over the 12gb 3080?
 
Noalcastor said:
Thanks for the advice. The majority opinion seems to be forget the 3090. Is the 3080ti at about £250 worth considering over the 12gb 3080?
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Again, I'd say no. At this point in the cycle, a few percentage improvement from the ti isn't worth it for me. Save the 250 (plus refund) towards the next gen if you still need more grunt.
 
I don’t want to be too critical in case OC have erred here but it seems my options are very limited.

I have already paid £770 in October 2020 and ordered an 3080 10gb ASUS Tuf gaming card and have received the following quotes.

For the equivalent card in LHR I will receive a refund of £80 so I will have paid £690 for the card. The retail cost £699.95 so a saving.

For the 12gb I have been quoted and additional £70 fee. So I will have to spend a total of £840. The retail cost of the card on the OC website is 799.99. So a £40 more than cancelling getting a refund and reordering.

I am assume my money was ring fenced whilst this was all going on but it seems that I am now much worse off than I would have been had I simply held on to my money.

I certainly won’t be preordering a 4000 series.

So thanks to everyone for their help but I think refund and order somewhere else is the way to go.
 
They seem to have sold out of the Asus TUF 3080 12GB over the weekend and put the price back up which probably helps explain the pricing difference. Prices have been changing almost daily over the last few weeks with prices for cards sometimes going down then back up. Personally I would either wait for the next gen cards now or take the TUF 3080 10GB and the refund. The 10GB may limit it a bit in some games at 4k but with dlss it should be a significant issue in AAA games. The TUF runs a fair bit cooler than the 3080 FE card and is worth the extra premium that you would pay and still get a refund
 
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