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Dirk Diggler said:
I think the product stack requires a summary after the AMD news.

3080 - still toe to toe with the competition, but only at FE MRSP prices.

3090 - :p

3070 - DOA (8GB memory = :D)

I hope anyone who bought a 3090 made the purchase in the last 2 weeks... Get that refund processed.
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Yeah, will be interesting to see what NV do now tbh. Ignoring RT and DLSS for the moment, AMD have done much better than I thought as long as reviews back up the announcement today. NV's GPU's still good but few can get their hands on them still, one month after release and now AMD have competitive GPU's arriving in next month or so. AIB 30**'s particularly look overpriced now.
I can't imagine NV dropping prices unless supply now increases or demand drops off
 
Dirk Diggler said:
I think the product stack requires a summary after the AMD news.

3080 - still toe to toe with the competition, but only at FE MRSP prices.

3090 - :p

3070 - DOA (8GB memory = :D)

I hope anyone who bought a 3090 made the purchase in the last 2 weeks... Get that refund processed.
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The 3090 is still overpriced, but I'd still go for it above the 6900.
My reasoning is, if I am paying 300-400 more for 10-15% raster performance, I may aswell pay a few hundred more for the 20% higher RT that I think the 3090 will bring. I am gfx over framerate and feel that I would get more benefits from 20% higher framerate at the low frames of RT than the 10-15% of the higher raster frames.
Still I am an extreme, and it will hurt if the 3090 gets a price cut as I haven't even used it yet (nvidia frustrating again by not giving block manufacturers time to be ready).

I am still within the 2 weeks since receiving the card. Now I wonder if I send it back, and wait for nvidia to drop the price? How likely is this. Probably impossible questions.
 
I think we need to await reviews and AIB pricing before drawing any conclusions for the 3080 and 3070.

No gamers should have bought the 3090 either way, even more so now.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
I think we need to await reviews and AIB pricing before drawing any conclusions for the 3080 and 3070.

No gamers should have bought the 3090 either way, even more so now.
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I think the memory alone renders the 3070 DOA, and I held that view before AMD's event today.

The 3080 might actually outperform the 6800XT so I agree it's too early to say. And similarly with the 3090 I agree, no-one should be considering purchasing a 3090 unless there's a niche use scenario and again it wasn't AMD that prompted my opinion.

One thing I can say for sure about the comparison between red and green is that AMD have not impressed with the reliance on peripheral hardware to get the best from their GPUs; I'll buy Ryzen if I want to not, because you've marketed me into a corner.
 
Dirk Diggler said:
I think the memory alone renders the 3070 DOA, and I held that view before AMD's event today.

The 3080 might actually outperform the 6800XT so I agree it's too early to say. And similarly with the 3090 I agree, no-one should be considering purchasing a 3090 unless there's a niche use scenario and again it wasn't AMD that prompted my opinion.

One thing I can say for sure about the comparison between red and green is that AMD have not impressed with the reliance on peripheral hardware to get the best from their GPUs; I'll buy Ryzen if I want to not, because you've marketed me into a corner.
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100%

People who are buying 3090 for NV-favoured situations (AI/ML etc), have no reason to change that buying decisions. 1337 gamers who want the best of the best, same story (probably - pending OC numbers for 6900 XT).

For 3080 I think it's very competitive and will depend on what you want more between AMD vs NV features, vram, price, AIB models etc.

For 3070 I think it just got completely murdered. It's slower, it has half the vram, it's barely cheaper (and who knows in reality), and it doesn't really have enough performance to flex its muscles with RT anyway so NV's superior RT performance is barely an advantage (+- depending on res; obv a different story at 1080p vs 4K). Overall it just seems like a bad card, especially when we know the 3060 Ti is coming that's very close to the 3070 in specs but will be quite a bit cheaper (assuming rumours have some credibility).

Then again, it's all a moot point if you can't buy any of them. :D
 
X-Mikuru_Beam-X said:
I was watching it at home all day long, and I only saw it change from "coming soon" to "in-stock" a few times... I dont know what magic the others pulled in order to buy one!
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If you look at the alerts you received there is a whole bunch of information in the update. I was monitoring the buy page that lists all of the cards and only monitoring the section that contains the FE card. When I look at the alert data there's a link to a website in the alert and a condition code for availability that changes from false to true. I just clicked on the link, it took me to somewhere else that had an in stock button.
 
Chockymonster said:
If you look at the alerts you received there is a whole bunch of information in the update. I was monitoring the buy page that lists all of the cards and only monitoring the section that contains the FE card. When I look at the alert data there's a link to a website in the alert and a condition code for availability that changes from false to true. I just clicked on the link, it took me to somewhere else that had an in stock button.
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yeah but some people didn't even see the buy now button and a minority did.
 
2pm ish again? Was at work and even if I knew about it I Had no chance. I didn't get a chance to check my phone all day. Someone could have died and I wouldn't have known til after work.

Sounds like some couldn't even see the page change?
 
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