3700x temps

[R3X]

AMD themselves said a pea sized dot in the centre or two peas or the cross method.

I went for the cross method myself but I use to do it via the thin applying with credit card, goodness knows for sure if it makes sense.

AMD vid was here shows it at the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7HsNWSY4o

The reducing volts seems to have given good results but I think a few guys said it does reduce the performance a little. These 570 mobos and Ryzen chips are still fresh, I think it may still take some more bioses to get the volts and mhz fixed fully. However try the reseating see if you have any joy.

 

[teejay73]

AMD themselves said a pea sized dot in the centre or two peas or the cross method.

I went for the cross method myself but I use to do it via the thin applying with credit card, goodness knows for sure if it makes sense.

AMD vid was here shows it at the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7HsNWSY4o

The reducing volts seems to have given good results but I think a few guys said it does reduce the performance a little. These 570 mobos and Ryzen chips are still fresh, I think it may still take some more bioses to get the volts and mhz fixed fully. However try the reseating see if you have any joy.

I am curious to see if re-applying the paste has any sort of difference - in my experience it never has equated to much, but i'm fresh out of ideas on how best to find the balance. Under volting def keeps things cooler, but sure knocks the performance too.

 

[superleeds27]

I am curious to see if re-applying the paste has any sort of difference - in my experience it never has equated to much, but i'm fresh out of ideas on how best to find the balance. Under volting def keeps things cooler, but sure knocks the performance too.

Noctua paste I'm using says to do one dot in the middle and then one in each corner.

I did that, obviously it sort of spread itself once the heatsink sat on and I finally managed to clamp the thing down.

3600 here with idle around 32-42c.

 

[R3X]

Seems to be the going rate for 3600/3700x cpus really, I think many are thinking its a 65watt cpu so should run much more lower temp but its not the case since its packing many cores and power under the hood.

I noticed these AMD cpus are sensitive to idle also, you only need a virus scanner or anything like any app running in the background for it to not really hit true idle cpu temps either, eventually you just get back to using the PC and ignoring it all once your happy of course with temps.

A good video to give you a heart attack on 'too much thermal paste or too little'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUWVVTY63hc

 

[R3X]

Also just a random question but is there really meant to be a big difference between top end air coolers from Noctua and Bequiet the £75+ range and top end top end Water coolers ?

I always thought it was on average 5-10c better, no idea since never watercooled

I know some reviews show top end air coolers giving liquid coolers a good run.

 

[TrM]

Also just a random question but is there really meant to be a big difference between top end air coolers from Noctua and Bequiet the £75+ range and top end top end Water coolers ?

I always thought it was on average 5-10c better, no idea since never watercooled

I know some reviews show top end air coolers giving liquid coolers a good run.

I’ve gone from a Corsair h115i platinum to a Noctua nd-h15 chromex edition the whole ltt limited edition pushed me to get it

Not exactly cheap but paid 89.99 for it from Noctua official outlet and got to say I’m really impressed.

my h115i on my3900x under extream benchmarks was around 80-85 degrees and under full fan load the fans was noticeably noisy would t say as bad as older auto but defo noiseier then I would like

my Noctua on testing was about the same temps and very similar all core boost speed also but a lot quieter then my h115i was you can bearly hear it at in my phanteks elvov x case.

I also really like the look of a massive heat sink and this all black Noctua looks amazing altho with both fans on it doesn’t play nicely with my Corsair vengeance pro rgb the ram is to tall. But ordered some new ram to solve that problem and sold my Corsair stuff on eBay.

but at the end of the day the really big air coolers like dark rock pro and nocutua d15 will match a lot of aio out there and beat so many of the cheaper aio

 

[theone8181]

I’ve gone from a Corsair h115i platinum to a Noctua nd-h15 chromex edition the whole ltt limited edition pushed me to get it

Not exactly cheap but paid 89.99 for it from Noctua official outlet and got to say I’m really impressed.

my h115i on my3900x under extream benchmarks was around 80-85 degrees and under full fan load the fans was noticeably noisy would t say as bad as older auto but defo noiseier then I would like

my Noctua on testing was about the same temps and very similar all core boost speed also but a lot quieter then my h115i was you can bearly hear it at in my phanteks elvov x case.

I also really like the look of a massive heat sink and this all black Noctua looks amazing altho with both fans on it doesn’t play nicely with my Corsair vengeance pro rgb the ram is to tall. But ordered some new ram to solve that problem and sold my Corsair stuff on eBay.

but at the end of the day the really big air coolers like dark rock pro and nocutua d15 will match a lot of aio out there and beat so many of the cheaper aio

From what i've seen, due to the heat being generated in such a small area (rather than the bulk of the chip), it doesn't seem to make much difference to temps what cooler you use. FWIW i'm using the standard prism cooler on a 3700X and it seems ok. At idle im in the low 30's and if i startup something like battlefront 2 i average about 70. Benchmarking seems to go to 75-80, however i've set a custom fan profile to make it quiet.

 

[Smak]

I’ve gone from a Corsair h115i platinum to a Noctua nd-h15 chromex edition the whole ltt limited edition pushed me to get it

Not exactly cheap but paid 89.99 for it from Noctua official outlet and got to say I’m really impressed.

my h115i on my3900x under extream benchmarks was around 80-85 degrees and under full fan load the fans was noticeably noisy would t say as bad as older auto but defo noiseier then I would like

my Noctua on testing was about the same temps and very similar all core boost speed also but a lot quieter then my h115i was you can bearly hear it at in my phanteks elvov x case.

I also really like the look of a massive heat sink and this all black Noctua looks amazing altho with both fans on it doesn’t play nicely with my Corsair vengeance pro rgb the ram is to tall. But ordered some new ram to solve that problem and sold my Corsair stuff on eBay.

but at the end of the day the really big air coolers like dark rock pro and nocutua d15 will match a lot of aio out there and beat so many of the cheaper aio

I'm using the D15 as well but I swapped out the front 140mm for the new A12x25 120mm to give me RAM clearance, using low ish speed fan curve, approx 800rpm under load I'm getting 59° in R20 and around 65° in Aida64 stress test.

 

[R3X]

I’ve gone from a Corsair h115i platinum to a Noctua nd-h15 chromex edition the whole ltt limited edition pushed me to get it

Not exactly cheap but paid 89.99 for it from Noctua official outlet and got to say I’m really impressed.

my h115i on my3900x under extream benchmarks was around 80-85 degrees and under full fan load the fans was noticeably noisy would t say as bad as older auto but defo noiseier then I would like

my Noctua on testing was about the same temps and very similar all core boost speed also but a lot quieter then my h115i was you can bearly hear it at in my phanteks elvov x case.

I also really like the look of a massive heat sink and this all black Noctua looks amazing altho with both fans on it doesn’t play nicely with my Corsair vengeance pro rgb the ram is to tall. But ordered some new ram to solve that problem and sold my Corsair stuff on eBay.

but at the end of the day the really big air coolers like dark rock pro and nocutua d15 will match a lot of aio out there and beat so many of the cheaper aio

Cheers, yeah always felt temps were not that far off or similar at least between AIO and high end coolers.

I prefer the big oversized coolers since no pump noise, extra electricity and can use the most silent fans without much issue.

 

[Makhaira]

Just got a 3700x so thought I'd read up on this as I've been having fan fluctuations...

Using a Noctua D15 with both fans.

- Full Linpack loading doesn't exceed 72C over 50 iterations at standard, so I'm happy with that.
- In Windows I regularly get fan fluctuations with typical idle temps around 40C but often spiking to 55C.
- If I fire up a game then the fan is stable at a relatively low RPM.

I think I'm going to just set a fan profile in the BIOS which is constant until 70C and then ramps right up, seems that however the temperature is being measured is too sensitive to a spike rather than an overall heat soak. I can see why people are making comments about whether the IHS is to blame, definitely the oddest thermal performance I've seen (I'd question my cooler/paste, but 72C at full load gives me confidence it's installed well).

 

[AWPC]

Clearly a hot CPU with the stock Prism Wraith the fans keep spinning up as AMD force the CPU to hit 4.2Ghz for a few moments unless you disable the settings which do that.

I got fed up with the noise in the end and bought one of these so now its always 100% quiet even when boosting to 4.2 Ghz!
https://uk.thermaltake.com/ux200-argb-lighting-cpu-cooler.html

 

[TrM]

Just got a 3700x so thought I'd read up on this as I've been having fan fluctuations...

Using a Noctua D15 with both fans.

- Full Linpack loading doesn't exceed 72C over 50 iterations at standard, so I'm happy with that.
- In Windows I regularly get fan fluctuations with typical idle temps around 40C but often spiking to 55C.
- If I fire up a game then the fan is stable at a relatively low RPM.

I think I'm going to just set a fan profile in the BIOS which is constant until 70C and then ramps right up, seems that however the temperature is being measured is too sensitive to a spike rather than an overall heat soak. I can see why people are making comments about whether the IHS is to blame, definitely the oddest thermal performance I've seen (I'd question my cooler/paste, but 72C at full load gives me confidence it's installed well).

7nm small die and being off Center are another 2 reasons why heat spikes happen but all they are is heat spikes. 72 degrees at at full load is about right but instead of doing a constant fan profile till 70 change the delay of ramping fan speed. On my 3900x I have the normal fan curve but changed the delay to a lot longer that way if you cpu does stay Higher then fan speed can go up a little to help.

 

[LtMatt]

7nm small die and being off Center are another 2 reasons why heat spikes happen but all they are is heat spikes. 72 degrees at at full load is about right but instead of doing a constant fan profile till 70 change the delay of ramping fan speed. On my 3900x I have the normal fan curve but changed the delay to a lot longer that way if you cpu does stay Higher then fan speed can go up a little to help.

Good suggestion that.

What exact setting did you use?

I am currently using a fan controller on the Wriath Prism with my 3900X and have lowered the SOC voltage down to 1.025v which reduced temperatures a little bit.

I have the fan speed set to a constant speed so its audible, but only just and its a constant noise rather than a ramping noise which you talked about.

 

[TrM]

Good suggestion that.

What exact setting did you use?

I am currently using a fan controller on the Wriath Prism with my 3900X and have lowered the SOC voltage down to 1.025v which reduced temperatures a little bit.

I have the fan speed set to a constant speed so its audible, but only just and its a constant noise rather than a ramping noise which you talked about.

I use a Noctua d15 on my 3900x currently but I set the delay to 3.9 seconds before my fan speed changes whilst my fan speed does change sometimes but my own testing with ryzen master and watching the behaviour over a few days my idle temp spikes don’t last much of 3 seconds really and having the delay slightly above that means a lot less fan speed changes.

 

[EssexBoy]

Mine gets up to 92c with the d15 may have to repaste and see if it helps.

 

[Minstadave]

Mine gets up to 92c with the d15 may have to repaste and see if it helps.

That does sound very high.

 

[EssexBoy]

That does sound very high.

Yep not great but only sees that high while benching but in games and basic stuff only goes to 60-65c and idles nicely at 40c.

 

[willhub]

I'm running a Evo 212 cooler, can get audible slightly when temps go up, for gaming I'm hitting around 80 max, anything really taxing like cinebench = around 88 and Prime 95 = pegged at 95 degrees.

 

[Nghtmare]

My 3800X idles between 29-32C all the time. You can see the cooler I am using in my signature. 92C is high regardless of the cooler, try re pasting it.

 

[RedMogg]

Thread bump - pretty much answered my questions, but is it worth me swapping out my Kraken X62 ?
NZXT'S Cam software is absolutely useless and finding an alternative to manage fan/pump speed is proving fruitless.

CPU hit 93°C running Heaven benchmark last night, and idles around 45°C - not comfortable with that.