3800x thread.

Jamin280672 · 18 Jul 2019 at 19:09

Had to share this....really dont think theres any point in overclocking this baby manually, im in love........exactly the same setup as my 2700X, the only thing ive changed is the CPU today to a 3800X and once again am I in love, this is with 3 x Samsung evo 970 nvme drives in RAID0, and this thing has also done something that my 2700X couldnt do, its running 4 sticks (32gb) of G.skill Trident Z Royal Silver at 3600mhz, the best my 2700X could do was 3333mhz, I was actually thinking about pulling 2 sticks out and selling them off, but not now ive got all 32gb at 3600mhz.

Not sure how the Cinebench score compares to others, but you can see my 2700X results in the window too, some more configuring to do too, I litterally only put it in the board 15mins ago and set the bios up, also I had to.....or rather felt the need to set a negative offset voltage of -0.1000 to the CPU core as the bios and CPU-z was reporting 1.488v to the core, far too much......now its at and around 1.38v.

https://imgur.com/a/6ZjnyIK

Mercutio · 18 Jul 2019 at 19:25

Nghtmare said:
I personally didnt enable XMP, just changed the frequency to 3600 manually, DRAM voltage to 1.35 and reduce the timings to 15-15-15-35 manually. Everything is working really good.
It could be a BIOS thing

I went with manual on mine. Didn't want to have to live with the 2/1 divider/etc so gone 3600 15-15-15-36 atm, I'll see if I can tighten it up any as 14-14-14-34 @ 3600 would be awesome

Mine arrived but I had to go the pub, not had chance since. The weekend for mine to get properly tinkered with.

Nghtmare · 18 Jul 2019 at 19:26

Mercutio said:
I went with manual on mine. Didn't want to have to live with the 2/1 divider/etc so gone 3600 15-15-15-36 atm, I'll see if I can tighten it up any as 14-14-14-34 @ 3600 would be awesome

Mine arrived but I had to go the pub, not had chance since. The weekend for mine to get properly tinkered with.

Did you add any voltage or checked for stability?

Mercutio · 18 Jul 2019 at 19:29

Mine XMP's to 1.35v so manually set that. Not thoroughly tested but I've known what stuff used to cause issue if I was pushing these sticks... new board+chip so it'll be different again but... so far, so good. I'll get more chance to dial stuff in over the weekend.

opethdisciple · 19 Jul 2019 at 09:49

Anyone running their 3800x on a x370 mobo?

I'm getting tempted to do the upgrade form my 2700x.

Lolik · 19 Jul 2019 at 11:01

Jamin280672 said:
Had to share this....really dont think theres any point in overclocking this baby manually, im in love........exactly the same setup as my 2700X, the only thing ive changed is the CPU today to a 3800X and once again am I in love, this is with 3 x Samsung evo 970 nvme drives in RAID0, and this thing has also done something that my 2700X couldnt do, its running 4 sticks (32gb) of G.skill Trident Z Royal Silver at 3600mhz, the best my 2700X could do was 3333mhz, I was actually thinking about pulling 2 sticks out and selling them off, but not now ive got all 32gb at 3600mhz.

Not sure how the Cinebench score compares to others, but you can see my 2700X results in the window too, some more configuring to do too, I litterally only put it in the board 15mins ago and set the bios up, also I had to.....or rather felt the need to set a negative offset voltage of -0.1000 to the CPU core as the bios and CPU-z was reporting 1.488v to the core, far too much......now its at and around 1.38v.

https://imgur.com/a/6ZjnyIK

Omg, those figures :eek:

p.s: Defo read this (it is a miracle that no one here, burned their new shiny ryzens

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/

Jamin280672 · 19 Jul 2019 at 11:39

Lolik said:
Omg, those figures
p.s: Defo read this (it is a miracle that no one here, burned their new shiny ryzens
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/

Those figures are getting better, much better, like I said, I just through the CPU in, set the bios up and ran a couple of benchmarks, now I've tweaked the ram, IF and CPU they're getting better.

I only had a couple of hours to mess around with it last night, I'll play a bit more tonight and over the weekend.

~>Dg<~ · 19 Jul 2019 at 13:04

so currently can you run your amd chips at full speed maximum ? 24x7 so full performance mode in windows. or have you got to have it going up and down.

FoxEye · 19 Jul 2019 at 13:15

Just to be clear... to get the 3700X to 3800X performance, you have to do a manual all-core overclock?

I was reading a while back that manual OC can be worse than letting boost do its thing? Is that true here?

I'm still undecided between the 3700X and 3800X. People have said the 3800X is a bad purchase, and I'd like to know why. Can the 3700X be configured to boost the same as the 3800X (ie not using a manual all-core OC)?

Buffalo2102 · 19 Jul 2019 at 14:30

3800X up and running in my Aorus Elite and all seems good. Managed to replace the Wraith cooler with a new AIO now and peace is restored

Only have two strange issues outstanding;
1. My Xonar AE pcie sound card doesn't want to work properly in any of the slots on my board. It seems to be detected and drivers installed etc. but I get very intermittent sound.
2. I can't get the 64-bit version of mkvtoolnixgui to run. 32-bit works but neither the installed or portable 64-bit version will run.

lltfdaniel · 19 Jul 2019 at 14:48

Jamin280672 said:
Had to share this....really dont think theres any point in overclocking this baby manually, im in love........exactly the same setup as my 2700X, the only thing ive changed is the CPU today to a 3800X and once again am I in love, this is with 3 x Samsung evo 970 nvme drives in RAID0, and this thing has also done something that my 2700X couldnt do, its running 4 sticks (32gb) of G.skill Trident Z Royal Silver at 3600mhz, the best my 2700X could do was 3333mhz, I was actually thinking about pulling 2 sticks out and selling them off, but not now ive got all 32gb at 3600mhz.

Not sure how the Cinebench score compares to others, but you can see my 2700X results in the window too, some more configuring to do too, I litterally only put it in the board 15mins ago and set the bios up, also I had to.....or rather felt the need to set a negative offset voltage of -0.1000 to the CPU core as the bios and CPU-z was reporting 1.488v to the core, far too much......now its at and around 1.38v.

https://imgur.com/a/6ZjnyIK

Don't know why your score is lower than mine, must be the cinebench version, yours is 15 mine is 20.

Anyways these ryzen 3000 series processors beats the intel 7 series hands down, in ipc single core everything.

Dan.

Buffalo2102 · 19 Jul 2019 at 14:49

Different version of CB

lltfdaniel · 19 Jul 2019 at 14:50

Buffalo2102 said:
Different version of CB

I figured it was that, thanks,

Dan.

Lolik · 19 Jul 2019 at 14:54

Sure 3800x looks like better buy, recon those manually oc allcore or ccx, see less performance overall (unless their pc does 100% cpu load task 24/7). As many ppl said before, playing with ram is more beneficial.

FoxEye · 19 Jul 2019 at 15:48

Hmm, so there's no consensus yet then. Some people saying 3800X is better some saying 3700X is only chip of the two worth buying.

No matter. Waiting for B550 anyhow (without chipset fan, thanks). Definitive answer should be available by then

Jamin280672 · 19 Jul 2019 at 15:56

lltfdaniel said:
Don't know why your score is lower than mine, must be the cinebench version, yours is 15 mine is 20.

Anyways these ryzen 3000 series processors beats the intel 7 series hands down, in ipc single core everything.

Dan.

Not quite sure why you got a better single core score than me, but the multicore score was better my side, maybe its just something to do with RAM, im still messing though, you might want to have a look at your voltage, I wouldnt be happy with it that high, ive hard set mine to 1.325v as on Auto it sits at 1.488v.....WAY WAY WAY too high.

lltfdaniel · 19 Jul 2019 at 16:20

Jamin280672 said:
Not quite sure why you got a better single core score than me, but the multicore score was better my side, maybe its just something to do with RAM, im still messing though, you might want to have a look at your voltage, I wouldnt be happy with it that high, ive hard set mine to 1.325v as on Auto it sits at 1.488v.....WAY WAY WAY too high.

I don't know why i have a better single core speed, there would be various factors as why though.

Buffalo2102 · 19 Jul 2019 at 16:39

Here's mine.

I have 4133MHz RAM cranked down to 3600 but I haven't tightened the timings at all yet.

Jamin280672 · 19 Jul 2019 at 16:41

lltfdaniel said:
I don't know why i have a better single core speed, there would be various factors as why though.

Yup its the RAM, mine is 18-22-22-42-85-1T, not configured it yet though, I was waiting for the next version of Ryzen DRAM calc, but might just go with the current version, I was also thinking of trying for 3866mhz with the loose timings I currently have.

Im running 4 sticks of G.Skill Trident Z Royal Silver, CL18, 32gb in total, to my surprise its Hynix based, but the current version of DRam calc recons I can run it with safe settings at CL16 3600mhz.

SiDeards73 · 20 Jul 2019 at 07:32

Will post my upgrade info later

Have benchmarks for my CH6 and 1700 in CB15, CB20, Timespy and Division 2

Then built the 3800x and x570 Taichi and benched again with the same nvme install

Then fresh install windows and benched again, will leave a little spoiler, fresh install wasn't worth it lol