39 Bodies found in Lorry in Essex

Bounce · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:04

diamount said:
Yes but aren't they supposed to do checks before crossing the channel?

Only spot checks, you know there's thousands of trucks that pass the channel every day, can you imagine the resources needed to check every vehicle.

Efour · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:04

robfosters said:
I hope parliament shows some respect and doesn't turn this into a political argument over immigration.

Like you are?

I'm joking, it's an all too obvious point anyway.

200sols · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:05

'Essex Police said the vehicle travelled from Bulgaria and entered the country via Holyhead, Anglesey, on Saturday.'

Seems like a strange route to take.

Tom|Nbk · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:09

Wow, absolutely savage, poor souls. Ran out of oxygen or the refrigeration unit was on?

Jono8 · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:12

robfosters said:
If so, bit harsh that the bloke has been arrested for murder.

The police likely would have had no choice but to detain him on suspicion of murder.

diamount · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:13

Bounce said:
Only spot checks, you know there's thousands of trucks that pass the channel every day, can you imagine the resources needed to check every vehicle.

Opening the back and peeping inside doesn't count as a spot check? I mean maybe he thought people wouldn't be so stupid to stowaway on a refrigerated truck....

Bounce · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:15

diamount said:
Opening the back and peeping inside doesn't count as a spot check? I mean maybe he thought people wouldn't be so stupid to stowaway on a refrigerated truck....

When you travel across the channel not all trucks get stopped and looked inside, only some get stopped and checked. Like I said imagine the resources to check every truck.

Django x2 · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:20

Arresting the driver is standard procedure, the same as when a truck hits a car and kills the occupant, even if the car was entirely to blame. A professional driver will be detained until all the facts are known

robfosters · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:21

is there not a sort of drive thru thermal imaging system that could be implemented?

rxodium · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:22

robfosters said:
is there not a sort of drive thru thermal imaging system that could be implemented?

They have x ray machines that can scan lorries. But I dunno if they're implemented on either side of the channel.

diamount · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:22

Bounce said:
When you travel across the channel not all trucks get stopped and looked inside, only some get stopped and checked. Like I said imagine the resources to check every truck.

No, I mean the driver himself should've checked. Only 2 avenues he can go down really he didn't check which can bring up a manslaughter charge.

jsmoke · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:30

robfosters said:
is there not a sort of drive thru thermal imaging system that could be implemented?

Hence why they took the long way around. Less checks apparently.

Conscript · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:30

What a bloody awful way to go...truly grim

robfosters said:
is there not a sort of drive thru thermal imaging system that could be implemented?

I imagine it wouldn't work on a refrigerated and preusmably insulated lorry container.

rxodium said:
They have x ray machines that can scan lorries. But I dunno if they're implemented on either side of the channel.

And this lorry didn't cross the Channel, it came in via Holyhead from Ireland, where presumably there aren't as many checks anyway.

rxodium · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:33

Conscript said:
And this lorry didn't cross the Channel, it came in via Holyhead from Ireland, where presumably there aren't as many checks anyway.

It crossed the channel at some point considering it originally came from Bulgaria. Hence my earlier post about it being Bulgarian mafia trafficking people, rather than people jumping on the back of a lorry to take a chance. Even the BBC article has a quote about it being a strange route to take, because it avoids Dover and Calais which have increased security.

He said: "People have been saying that security and checks have been increased at places like Dover and Calais, so it might be seen as an easier way to get in by going from Cherbourg or Roscoff, over to Rosslare, then up the road to Dublin.

The_One · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:35

Feel for the driver will haunt him forever

Conscript · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:35

rxodium said:
It crossed the channel at some point considering it originally came from Bulgaria. Hence my earlier post about it being Bulgarian mafia trafficking people, rather than people jumping on the back of a lorry to take a chance. Even the BBC article has a quote about it being a strange route to take, because it avoids Dover and Calais which have increased security.

Oh, I beg your pardon. I thought you were referring specifically to the Calais-Dover route.

RxR · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:41

Poor buggers. Suffocation or freezing, not a good way to go.

Firestar_3x · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:43

Django x2 said:
Arresting the driver is standard procedure, the same as when a truck hits a car and kills the occupant, even if the car was entirely to blame. A professional driver will be detained until all the facts are known

Picture of the lorry now on the bbc site.

something daft already!! · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:46

jsmoke said:
39 souls.

Bodies. The soul is no longer a valid concept.

Feek · 23 Oct 2019 at 11:58

lolism said:
Absolutely crazy. Nearly the start of the story to The Wire Season 2.

That was my first thought when I saw the news article earlier.

As has been said, this is grim. Really not good at all.

jsmoke · 23 Oct 2019 at 12:05

The_One said:
Feel for the driver will haunt him forever

Not really he obviously knew what he was doing, hope he gets 30+ years.