3D is overrated

dannyjo22 said:
I saw mib3 and it ruined the film for me and my wife. It was the first 3d film I have seen since jaws revenge and I hated it. Slow moving stuff was fine but when someone was in the middle of the shot and someone moved around them, they were blurry where they wouldn't be in 2d version.

I'm looking forward to seeing the film again in 2d.

They showed the trailer for the new spiderman and it was terrible in 3d. The area of focus was so small it felt like I was watching the screen through a telescope.
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There's your problem though. MIB3 wasn't a true 3D film. It was one of those horrible conversions.

I really feel for people that watch one of those type of films without realising it. Especially if it's their first 3D experience... :( Must be awful and gutting.

Honestly, it is so much better than that. But it's only worth seeing one or two films a year in 3D. Usually because there is only that many films per year that actually warrant 3D. Often they are sci-fi films...
 
dannyjo22 said:
I saw mib3 and it ruined the film for me and my wife. It was the first 3d film I have seen since jaws revenge and I hated it. Slow moving stuff was fine but when someone was in the middle of the shot and someone moved around them, they were blurry where they wouldn't be in 2d version.

I'm looking forward to seeing the film again in 2d.

They showed the trailer for the new spiderman and it was terrible in 3d. The area of focus was so small it felt like I was watching the screen through a telescope.
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well the blur is a problem indeed... that however is where 48 frames per second will come in.The Hobbit will implement it and it should be a joy to behold.
 
To once again make my point succinctly... I have seen two 3D films - Avatar and Tron Legacy. I did not gain any enjoyment from the 3D in either of them. So why would I want to pay more in the future when past experience suggests it'll not be worthwhile?
 
Go watch it in 3d, Prometheus is good, it's one of the much better 3d filmed films.

3d is not going to die, even if you dislike it, I can't see how you think it will die. It's being filmed in 3d as standard, even cheap TVs are now 3d, cinemas are equipped for 3d. It isn't going anywhere. It's not a fad or gimmic it's here to stay. Directors just need to learn how to use it and non glasses TVs need to reduce in price and get better.
 
Robbie G said:
Those films tend to be the **** ones like Piranha 3D etc., and as you say the good ones like Prometheus tend not to bother with those shenanigans. So, it still shouldn't really bother you, unless you like seeing **** films.

Having seen Avatar in both 2D and 3D, the 3D added a lot to my experience of the film, which for me shows the potential for 3D to be great, even if not everyone does it successfully and it has room for improvement.
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Rubbish, I've seen Avatar in 3d and 2d, the 3d added nothing and there were more than a few cheesy crowbarred in 3d shots.

Will21st said:
well,the cheaper films do crowbar scenes in,but then the director's are only finding their feet with this way of expression,so give it some time.
The system isn't falsifying anything,3D is a viable business and will remain so.
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Avatar was a cheaper film? Pirates 4? Sorry, but I just cannot agree. You've misunderstood my comments about falsifying things too, I never said it wasn't viable or that it wouldn't stay so, I said that holding back the 2d release changes the viewing figures from what they would have been given concurrent releases, that is a fact. The only reason I watched Prometheus in 3d was due to there being no 2d showing at that time, thus false viewing figures.
 
Dano said:
I said that holding back the 2d release changes the viewing figures from what they would have been given concurrent releases, that is a fact. The only reason I watched Prometheus in 3d was due to there being no 2d showing at that time, thus false viewing figures.
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I'm not really sure what you are trying to get at here?
Films aren't held back, infact I saw The Avengers on the opening afternoon in 2D without any trouble.

Ultimately cinemas will show the 3D version because it's more money for them and the Studio, but its still possible to find 2D showings. Further to that, what is there to falsify? A box-office ticket sale is a sale regardless of whether its shown in 2D or 3D. If people really are against the 3D and can't find 2D showings then presumably they wouldn't even bother watching the film, which doesn't appear to be the case.
 
Glaucus said:
3d is not going to die, even if you dislike it, I can't see how you think it will die. It's being filmed in 3d as standard, even cheap TVs are now 3d, cinemas are equipped for 3d. It isn't going anywhere. It's not a fad or gimmic it's here to stay. Directors just need to learn how to use it and non glasses TVs need to reduce in price and get better.
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It's a gimmick and a fad and way for studios to cash in more on the same film. Just look at how many 'proper' 3D films there are, or even currently released on Bluray.. (and I'm not talking about the digital representations either, this goes for cinema releases as well). I agree with you about there having to be a glasses free 3D, before it even remotely becomes viable for home cinema. That aside, I bet you that many people who have bought into 3D have now gotten bored of it, or don't use it due to lack of content.

Take an annual show such CES 2012. There was hardly much talk at all about 3D, with any of the new product launches. In fact it was pretty much brushed a side.
 
A fad dies, 3d is not a fad. It isn't dying, shows no sign of dying and isn't going to die.

How long do we have to wait till we can go, yep you where wrong its not a fad?

Uptake of new technology is always slow, nothing new. Look how long Hd took to become mainstream and even know most channels are still SD.
 
The Avengers was a blur fest (most 3D films are), and the 3D added nothing to the over all film. It actually took more away from the film than it tried to add (again this goes for most 3D films).
 
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It's been much better implemented than the previous 3D methods of Anaglyph and Over and Under, which don't look very good so they were only ever going to be a fad because the technology just wasn't there at the time.

Whether you like it or not, it's not going away anytime soon.
It makes more money for Cinemas, Studios, TV Manufacturers and TV Networks so above all else, this is one reason why it's not just going to disappear.

Further to that there still aren't truly established standards yet, with TV manufactures trying different technologies, which is the same in the Cinema too, as you have systems by Dolby, Real-D and Xpand all competing or trying to buy out the cinema market by paying for the projectors and equipment. As many have said, we all know the future of 3D is without glasses and this is something which they are all still working on.
 
Wizzfizz said:
3D has been here before and died off; it's nothing new thus not new technology.
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ye sit has been here before, but it is new technology and it was never mass released before. there wasn't a 1001 tvs with 3d support and most of the ones before where active glasses.

It is totally different beast this time around. last time was nearly every new film, filmed in 3d? did every cinema have 3d support? did home users on mass have 3d support?

Then and now is not comparable.
 
Nexus said:
I'm not really sure what you are trying to get at here?
Films aren't held back, infact I saw The Avengers on the opening afternoon in 2D without any trouble.
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Films are starting to be, Prometheus certainly was as there was no where at all local to me that had a 2d showing at midnight release, Scott apparently wanted several weeks between the 3d release and 2d version.

Ultimately cinemas will show the 3D version because it's more money for them and the Studio, but its still possible to find 2D showings. Further to that, what is there to falsify? A box-office ticket sale is a sale regardless of whether its shown in 2D or 3D. If people really are against the 3D and can't find 2D showings then presumably they wouldn't even bother watching the film, which doesn't appear to be the case.
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No, they'll compare 2d versus 3d showings, which are starting to get falsely adjusted by the 2d version not being available at the same time, then they'll all say, ohhh, look, we sold more 3d tickets and ignore the fact that it was due to lack of 2d availability. If people can't fine a 2d showing then unless they really detest it they will of course see the 3d version, that is my point.
 
Glaucus said:
There's plenty of new technology in 3d.
it is nothing like the old releases, for a hole number of reasons. its very obvious this is a different beast and isn't going to die.
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The current 3d will die, and then be replaced by glasses free 3d, might take a while but it will happen.
 
Tend to stick to 2D myself, when I have watched 3D I wasn't too impressed it made it more difficult to watch I thought and I started to get eye strain after a while.

Worst of all though it means I have to sit in the cinema with 2 pairs of glasses on :(
 
Dano said:
Films are starting to be, Prometheus certainly was as there was no where at all local to me that had a 2d showing at midnight release, Scott apparently wanted several weeks between the 3d release and 2d version.
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With 3D tickets costing a bit more, do you really blame them for having the first showings in 3D... especially the midnight showings, which lets face it are pretty specialised and only going to be attended by die hard fans. Not to mention it's the way Scott intended the film to be shown. I'd have done the same if it was me.


No, they'll compare 2d versus 3d showings, which are starting to get falsely adjusted by the 2d version not being available at the same time, then they'll all say, ohhh, look, we sold more 3d tickets and ignore the fact that it was due to lack of 2d availability. If people can't fine a 2d showing then unless they really detest it they will of course see the 3d version, that is my point.
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If it's really that much of an issue, you either find a 2D showing, or wait. Prometheus only came out last weekend and it's being shown in 2D three times a day at my local Odeon all week.
 
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