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Just accept delivery, it's a great card.
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4080s in stock on nvidia site
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Just accept delivery, it's a great card.
No one wants them ... let them sit and rot on their shelves at these stupid prices.
The 4080 is weak sauce. It only takes one read of the spec list and CUDA cores and etc to realise that. The 12gb? dear god.
People become a lot wiser when they have less money.
I think the most glaring thing about the 40 series launch for me was that Nvidia did not even want to make it. What I mean is? they would have been much happier sitting back and letting the 30 series sell out. Because they ramped up too hard AGAIN and made too many, riding on the mining wave. And that has bitten them hard.
Problem is they had no choice but to launch. The shareholders were restless, and share prices and profits were down. There was just one problem that every one should have totally sniffed out. Or rather the lack of - AMD. I know a lot of people, especially here, think they are not a threat to the mighty Nvidia, and that Nvidia pretend like they don't matter. The thing is? they clearly do. Because when the 6900XT beat the 3090 in raster, and Nvidia's bully boy tactics did not work on reviewers? they launched the 3090ti. Which was a massive kick in the teeth for those who bought the 3090, especially at the prices they were changing hands for. BUT ! the big difference was that it wasn't *that* much faster than a 3090, it just made Jen feel all warm and tingly knowing he had the fastest cards out there.
And that brings me back to the whiff that people should have sniffed out. When he taped out the 40 series AMD were utterly silent. There weren't even any decent rumours going around from wafflers like Moores Law Is Dead and etc. So? Jen released the absolute MINIMUM IMO. Knowing all too well that the product stack would likely be completely replaced once AMD showed their hand. And it will. Like I said, I give it three months and that chasm of a divide between the 4080 and 4090 will HAVE to be filled, because that is EXACTLY where both of AMD's far cheaper cards are going to sit.
And that is exactly why he binned off the 12gb. Because it was even more insulting than the 4080 16gb. Which btw? are insulting. Because that is the 40 series you are going to see until AMD have cards out there.
IMO? even the 4090 was weak. I mean sure, it looks amazing and mostly is. But is is a far cry from what Lovelace can do. Ampere was absolutely awful. Worst gen step since Fermi, which was actually a bigger leap lol. So I knew that when they went back to TSMC and showed what it could do it would be incredible. The problem? like I said, he hasn't showed his hand. He has been forced into releasing something that he had no idea what AMD were going to launch. Usually? he doesn't have to wait. This time? he has. And that is why the cards are weak. Because if he blew his load and AMD put egg on his face he would have nowhere to go.
They'll have to, if a GPU isn't selling well at launch when demand is at its highest then good luck to them going forward from here.
It's an even worse situation for the AIBs and they could be looking at some serious losses coming their way as I doubt nvidia is going to rebate them if they have to make price cuts.
A lot of people thought EVGA were mad to ditch Nvidia but it could turn out to be a masterstroke.
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IIRC their two big gripes were..... Nvidia selling FE cards at prices and quality they could not match, and Nvidia stopping them from charging what they wanted to on GPUs with the totally bogus RRP.
And yeah, they have totally dodged a bullet IMO. Got out at absolutely the perfect time.
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Just got home from work, out of stock! They don't want to look bad, so they've taken them off the shelves
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All gone now!
Damage is done - why would *anyone* buy a more expensive AIB card when they can wait for the next FE drop and have a whole day to buy one?
That's a very valid point. EVGA parting company with Nvidia for this generation may have been a smart move.
If the FEs are not selling as expected, would they deliberately be taken off sale/trickled so as to limit the impact on AIBs?
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All 15 sold out eventually
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10hrs != A day.
Don't feel bad , as said you plan to offset some of the cost with your 3080 which will no doubt sell for as much as you payed for it if that was £650 . The performance of the card is good and will be a noticeable improvement especially at 4k compared to the 3080. If i had a 3080 and wanted an upgrade what you done is exactly what i would have done to get it
I doubt the price of the card will drop just yet ... while they are clearly taking much longer to sell out they are still selling as the FE are gone now albeit nearly 12 hours after going up for sale .Your existing 3080 is fine for 4k
All 15 sold out eventually
Yeah well there can only be so many dummies who would buy a 4080 instead of the far superior in every way 4090
I literally said this in another thread. It will also happen to the 7900XTX where the AIB versions will cost around £1,100-1200. When you cross a certain price, you may as well get the best on the market. All these cards are very expensive so if you are going to blow away your wallet regardless of what you buy, may as well get the no compromise card.