4080s in stock on nvidia site

[Shaz12]

Yeah well there can only be so many dummies who would buy a 4080 instead of the far superior in every way 4090

The only logical scenario where I can see buying a 4080 makes sense is if you are playing at 1440p and the 4090 would bottleneck by 30-40% on top of the line cpus. I frequently see bottlenecks on my 12700k and 4090 at 3440x1440 or if I turn on DLSS at 4k and the card ends up being 20% idle.

It's quite comical in Forza where my GPU is stuck at 70% usage and 30% fan speed where my 12900k is gasping for breath trying to keep up and red lines at 150 fps or so

 

[nomadd]

File me under 'Don't GAF'

Good job - as they are all goneski.

 

[nomadd]

The only logical scenario where I can see buying a 4080 makes sense is if you are playing at 1440p

£1300-1600 to play at 1440p? That's so 2020 scalper/crypto-mania, dharling.

 

[DFroN]

To people saying that this is biting Nvidia on the arse, it’s not. They knew the 4080 wouldn’t sell at this price but they have so much 3000 series stock left to sell they had no choice. If they released the 4080 at its proper price then all of their 3000 stock becomes worthless overnight.

Definitely going to be a super/Ti refresh with better pricing.

 

[Cooper]

That's a very valid point. EVGA parting company with Nvidia for this generation may have been a smart move.

If the FEs are not selling as expected, would they deliberately be taken off sale/trickled so as to limit the impact on AIBs?

Pffft..this is Nvidia we're talking about, their solution to FE cards hitting AIB sales will be to....increase the price of the FE!

 

[OverDrive]

Hi all, I decided to cancel my 4080 order. The FE distributer was able to cancel it with the courier directly as it had not been delivered yet (it was out for delivery though - I had expected it to come on Monday!). They were very helpful and told me that many others had done the same. I can understand why these cards are expensive given the new TSMC process. However, I am now thinking that spending a few hundred more and getting a 4090 would have been the 'better' option, or wait and see if a Ti is launched at the same price point, or indeed prices fall across the range. I was advised that I would now not be able to order another 40xx series GPU (FE or AIB) from the said distributer until restrictions are eased, which hopefully will be sooner given that there appears to be no issues with availability/scalping this generation. Anyhow, I feel better for doing this and will wait and see what happens, including post launch of the RDNA 3 cards.

 

[Aegis]

Anyhow, I feel better for doing this and will wait and see what happens, including post launch of the RDNA 3 cards.

Sorry you didn't get something fun and new to tinker with but if you were on the fence about it then it's probably the right move. Interesting that you were told that there had been a bunch of other cancellations too. The more pressure there is on nvidia to reassess its pricing, the better.

 

[Guest2]

Hi all, I decided to cancel my 4080 order. The FE distributer was able to cancel it with the courier directly as it had not been delivered yet (it was out for delivery though - I had expected it to come on Monday!). They were very helpful and told me that many others had done the same. I can understand why these cards are expensive given the new TSMC process. However, I am now thinking that spending a few hundred more and getting a 4090 would have been the 'better' option, or wait and see if a Ti is launched at the same price point, or indeed prices fall across the range. I was advised that I would now not be able to order another 40xx series GPU (FE or AIB) from the said distributer until restrictions are eased, which hopefully will be sooner given that there appears to be no issues with availability/scalping this generation. Anyhow, I feel better for doing this and will wait and see what happens, including post launch of the RDNA 3 cards.

No issues with scalping with this generation? So there are no 4090 or 4080 cards on eBay above MSRP?

 

[aoaaron]

I'll be surprised if these are ever not in stock in the next few months.

Obviously you have the idiots who FOMO and buy GPUs ASAP with palpitations and sweaty palms as they hope it doesn't vanish from their cart; but for the most part, these are very niche-level products given the price points and the available other options at much more competitive prices.

I don't see many people with setups to truly take advantage of a 4090, and the 4080 price is too close to the top tier card, and doesn't offer significant performance increase for most people's setups vs a 3080+.

Who NEEDs a 4090? Probably people with triple 4K setups and 8K monitors who don't want to upscale, and VR headset owners who own a Varjo Aero or a Pimax 8KX.

No issues with scalping with this generation? So there are no 4090 or 4080 cards on eBay above MSRP?

They're there and not selling quickly.

Also scalpers can normally make money from non-domestic purchasers. In the UK, I think most of the idiots who got anxiety over the new launch have probably got their fill now. We're left with a pool of people who have waited for the dust to settle.

A competitor website who I'm negotiating a price for a 13900k/4090 rig have already dropped their top-tier 4090 cards bundled in the prebuilt setups by £100 in the space of a few weeks. Prices are moving down.

 

[nomadd]

Obviously you have the idiots who FOMO and buy GPUs ASAP with palpitations and sweaty palms..
Who NEEDs a 4090?
I think most of the idiots who got anxiety over the new launch have probably got their fill now.

I'm negotiating a price for a 13900k/4090 rig..

So you're saying you're are a "FOMO idiot" who's buying a card he doesn't actually "need"?

EDIT: Just seen your post on another thread where you state: "You have a bunch of idiots like myself who buy in at launch". So I guess that's answered that.

 

[montymint]

So you're saying you're are a "FOMO idiot" who's buying a card he doesn't actually "need"?

I mean the guy has 3 x 4K 55" monitors so I imagine it would do nicely for him

 

[nomadd]

I mean the guy has 3 x 4K 55" monitors so I imagine it would do nicely for him

Well looking at how a 4090 struggles on a single 4k monitor in FS2020 and Cyberpunk at Ultra settings, all I can say is I wish him the best of luck!

 

[aoaaron]

So you're saying you're are a "FOMO idiot" who's buying a card he doesn't actually "need"?

EDIT: Just seen your post on another thread where you state: "You have a bunch of idiots like myself who buy in at launch". So I guess that's answered that.

Yup pretty much. I'm aware of my stupidity.

I wish I'd upgraded at the 1080TI cycle and again at 3080.

Sadly I mis-timed my purchases and I'm caught in the 20 series [get ripped off] -> skip 30 series which is actually good value -> get ripped off at 40 series as I don't like to upgrade more than every 3-4 years.

Sadly I decided after being underwhelmed by 21:9 and 32:9 to just make the jump to triple 4K OLEDs this year which has made my decision eve more difficult as I essentially am one of the few who NEED a 4090 to hit 60fps at normal resolution now. triple 55/OLED is the only experience I've found which matches my cinema experience with gaming and in some respects betters it.

a 3080 or 3090 will really struggle.

I'm luckily not one of those idiots buying a 4090 with a 1440p ultawide monitor though or a single 4K panel when I could have just adjusted settings down a bit or accepted a lower yet still smooth frame rate. but I'm still an idiot

 

[aoaaron]

Well looking at how a 4090 struggles on a single 4k monitor in FS2020 and Cyberpunk at Ultra settings, all I can say is I wish him the best of luck!

They're outliers.

Most other games will run fine. You can get Cyberpunk running fine at triple 4K if you use the ultra performance preset on DLSS. FS2020 with the DLSS frame generation on a 4090 will also hit 60fps at triple 4K.

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There are some videos of proof of performance.

 

[nomadd]

Yup pretty much. I'm aware of my stupidity.

I wish I'd upgraded at the 1080TI cycle and again at 3080.

Sadly I mis-timed my purchases and I'm caught in the 20 series [get ripped off] -> skip 30 series which is actually good value -> get ripped off at 40 series as I don't like to upgrade more than every 3-4 years.

Sadly I decided after being underwhelmed by 21:9 and 32:9 to just make the jump to triple 4K OLEDs this year which has made my decision eve more difficult as I essentially am one of the few who NEED a 4090 to hit 60fps at normal resolution now.

It's only money. Can't take it with you, and all that.

I've pi55ed a small fortune up the wall on cars and motorbikes over the years, but no regrets. By comparison, PC gaming is actually "cheap" - even at today's prices!

Enjoy.

 

[aoaaron]

It's only money. Can't take it with you, and all that.

I've pi55ed a small fortune up the wall on cars and motorbikes over the years, but no regrets. By comparison, PC gaming is actually "cheap" - even at today's prices!

Enjoy.

Slippery slope

I'm still deciding between the 4090, a triple pair of Perlisten speakers or a new rolex .. or a hot tub LOL.

 

[nomadd]

They're outliers.

Most other games will run fine. You can get Cyberpunk running fine at triple 4K if you use the ultra performance preset. FS2020 with the DLSS frame generation on a 4090 will also hit 60fps at triple 4K.


There are some videos of proof of performance.

Yeah, I'd seen those vids.

Tbh, I'd be looking for minimum 120fps+ if I was upgrading to a 4090 for £2k; mind you, I'm only on a single LG HDMI 2.1 4k screen. With a few tweaks, I'm sure I could just about make a 4090 work. Still, it's concerning looking at FS2020 and Cyberpunk at "psycho" settings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXKOwHNAOV4

And I'm not a fan of ducking the issue via "frame generation" - too many artefacts and additional latency.

 

[aoaaron]

Yeah, I'd seen those vids.

Tbh, I'd be looking for minimum 120fps+ if I was upgrading to a 4090 for £2k; mind you, I'm only on a single LG HDMI 2.1 4k screen. With a few tweaks, I'm sure I could just about make a 4090 work. Still, it's concerning looking at FS2020 and Cyberpunk at "psycho" settings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXKOwHNAOV4

And I'm not a fan of ducking the issue via "frame generation" - too many artefacts and additional latency.

I don't care much for frame rate over immersion. Since going triple monitor, I can't go back. Its just a much more immersive, engrossing experience.

4K is great and if you're a competitive gamer, I see why you'd want 120fps. However I wouldn't spend £2k to hit 120fps over 80fps for a single monitor.

I think the argument of paying £2k to triple 4K gaming, 8K gaming or ultra high end VR gaming makes much more sense.

But maybe some people are much much more motion sensitive to me. I've found 30 to 60fps huge. 60 to 100FPs okay - its nice and buttery but I can get caught how with thinking its 100fps when its not. 100fps to 200fps is just meh for me. If I was a competitive FPS gamer, I'd be saying different though.

I'm still not utterly convinced though hence why I haven't decided on a rig yet tho. I also 3D game.. and to 3D game it requires more horsepower than the native resolution. For example God of war 4K triple monitor I think even the 4090 will struggle on on geo-11.

 

[Tired9]

I don't care much for frame rate over immersion. Since going triple monitor, I can't go back. Its just a much more immersive, engrossing experience.

4K is great and if you're a competitive gamer, I see why you'd want 120fps. However I wouldn't spend £2k to hit 120fps over 80fps for a single monitor.

I think the argument of paying £2k to triple 4K gaming, 8K gaming or ultra high end VR gaming makes much more sense.

But maybe some people are much much more motion sensitive to me. I've found 30 to 60fps huge. 60 to 100FPs okay - its nice and buttery but I can get caught how with thinking its 100fps when its not. 100fps to 200fps is just meh for me. If I was a competitive FPS gamer, I'd be saying different though.

I'm still not utterly convinced though hence why I haven't decided on a rig yet tho. I also 3D game.. and to 3D game it requires more horsepower than the native resolution. For example God of war 4K triple monitor I think even the 4090 will struggle on on geo-11.

1440P seems to be a hard wall for me, monitor size on a desk vs usable resolution and practical visual differences determine that 4K is just not worth it ever not even the closest future, factoring impressive technology improvements such as OLED and such, they are absolutely not worth the extra money it will cost to run a GPU that can output the proper visual quality in video games, ala 4090 and above.
Money now has more meaning and value due to the circumstances, this stuff is now left for those who either have zero responsibilities or upkeep to pay for, or are super well off.

I cut my losses with the 6900 XT and have accepted I won't be able to push the best RT in all new games, but I will get amazing performance for the money at 1440P 166hz.

Sold my 3070 off and the final cost of my upgrade is just 150 quid.

 

[OverDrive]

Well looking at how a 4090 struggles on a single 4k monitor in FS2020 and Cyberpunk at Ultra settings, all I can say is I wish him the best of luck!

Wow. Are you sure you are not main thread limited with FS2020?