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4K gaming possible at full settings on todays hardware?

Like I said guys, what is seen and what is needed is key. I didn't monitor frames but can say that it was very slow and very unresponsive and guessing around 25-30 but will give it a bench tomorrow to verify. AA would need turning off and maybe some other settings dropped as well to get playable and this in turn would massively drop the VRAM usage.
 
This on a Single GPU? I was told once that the Vram reading you split it in half to get your real usage.
If this is true your real usage for each card was 2263mb

No, it was SLI and it was me who told you that you need to halve it. With nvidia, you don't do this, as it is read correctly, so what you see being read is what you see being used.
 
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Camera phone, so not the best pics but sitting next to my Asus, I am pleased with it :)
 
looks nice. Though the bezel on that Asus looks better. I can't help but think about what you said about the stand being wobbly... That new Asus monitor and AOC monitor look good if the stand ends up being better. Though in pics alone I do like the Samsungs look, it is very modern and minimalist. Guess that doesn't pan out....

Why do the icons look so big? Aren't they supposed to be really small? It looks like it would on my 1440p screen.

I mean, I am used to 1080p on a 15 inch laptop, is it much worse than that on websites?

I highlighted all the icons on the desktop and pressed and held left CTRL and used my scroll wheel to make them bigger :) The task bar is small but I can have it bigger but I am happy with the size in truth. Websites are fine and any that are too small, again I just press left CTRL and scroll wheel again to make the text bigger.

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I might do some ShadowPlay recording later but it will only record in 1080P (probably a good thing, as I have crappy broadband with 70K upload speed) but hopefully it will come out ok :)
 
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I have not used it for films but was going to d/l a clip but when I see it was 8.5GB dor 140 seconds, I didn't bother :D

As for upscaling, not sure on that and will have a look into it.
 
But the question is...it is just Sammy's TN panels, or TN panels in general? ;)

Well I can only compare what I have used and that is a TN Acer 1050P res (not a very good viewing angle), 3 Asus VG278H TN panels (all very good viewing angles and this Sammy 4K (again, a very good viewing angle). I also have a Dell U27 monitor that is IPS and comparing the TN that I have now on both the Asus and Sammy, the TN is very good.
 
Next we just need Nvidia or AMD to work out an external or graphic card built-in solution for G-sync/Freesync instead of requiring a piece of hardware inside specific monitors...

I think that 4K 60Hz monitors becoming affordable so quickly is really at odd with the high price G-sync monitors...

I proper wanted a 1440P 120hz G-Sync monitor but the delay was the reason I didn't get one. The latest is that the ROG Swift has been delayed even further than the summer and my spare cash that I had set aside was burning a hole in my pocket. Seeing these 4K's at 60Hz become affordable was the selling point for me and so glad I made the move.

I have shown how you don't need Titan's to game on this and people are getting too hung up on VRAM and TN. Anyone with a decent high end GPU can get playable frames in the most demanding games and because of the sheer volume of pixels, turn AA off and have a jaggy free image. IAgain, I can only use my experience but as someone who is a GFX *****, I tend to want all the details. I was a firm believer in 4K and max settings or GTFO but truthfully, max settings is nice but not needed.
 
I said it 'might' not be enough at the start of the thread and that was based off the beta results GameGPU posted which i made pretty clear at the time. However when asked about 2gb being enough after the first few pages i also said it should be enough but it may not be enough at 1440P/1600P, which turns out to be correct. Things do like to get twisted here though as we can see earlier in the thread. Apparently AMD said it, when they said no such thing and were talking about 1440P, just like i was.

To be fair, you did say that BF4 wouldn't run at full settings at 1080P with a 2GB card and would need AA turned down. You then edited your post.
 
I'm glad you love your 4k monitor mate. For me though I don't see the point in 4k yet...it's too early for most still. I saw 4k today and wasn't that impressed tbh. It impressed me more when the screen was over 50". Below 50" it was that all that.

Just my opinion greg. Like I said glad your enjoying it. That's all that matters. :)

Absolutely Retro and there will be a few with the same thoughts as you. I can see the benefit of waiting it out or getting a bigger screen and I can see the benefit of jumping now. I have no intention of trying to convince people that 4K is a must and my thoughts were to pass on my findings. :)
 

Horrible recording with ShadowPlay and I don't think it likes 4K yet :D Only records in 1080P but made it a little stuttery and not smooth at all. With ShadowPlay off, it is very smooth.
 
Please don't turn this thread into a vram/graph war, I was enjoying reading Gregster's musings.

Agreed Besty.

The idea of the thread was to show if 4K was doable on today's hardware and clearly it is. Sure settings can't be maxed with even a pair of Titans in a few of the latest AAA games but notch down AA and a single card can hold its own. I would go so far as to say a pair of 7950's would hold their own quite easily with most settings on max.
 
From my own experiences I would not want to run a 4k screen as a primary display due to poor os and application support. I would wait for not only updated hdmi and dp connectors but also the next point releases of windows or OS X.

Anandtech chucked up a review of the dell 4k ips panel earlier, I would check out that review as an illustration of what's wrong at the software level.

I would go 1x1080p at 120hz and 1x 4k at 60hz and then add the other 4k panels in two years time.

You have hit on a key point. I have the 4K as a primary monitor but also have my Asus 1080P next to it. I find I drag things to the Asus, as some apps like Afterburner are too small to see the numbers. You can enlarge webpages and icons but apps you can't (or at least I don't think you can) and this makes it tough if you are only going to use the 4K solo.

This is the biggest caveat for me in truth and something people need to consider.
 
Why dont you use the Windows Magnifier tool for apps? ;)

I am interested myself with it being £500 for 4k monitor.

Great review and benches by the way. :)

I have a 1080P monitor connected as well, so the caveat of small apps is not a problem, as I just drag them across to the 1080P screen but for a single screen user, it could be a pain. Of course there is no need to run desktop at 4K either.

Thanks for the nice comments on my review as well guys :) Hope it helps those on the fence.
 
thanks restored my faith in graphical quality ! Guess zoomed in with such large images shows things far worse but the video shows it really for how it looks and feels.

ShadowPlay is horrible with recording in 4K and I would probably be better recording with my phone to show a better quality. I feel in fairness that people need to see 4K first hand and then see what is what. No point scrolling around a picture, as that defeats the object :)
 
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